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hidesertca(8)

Well they are now putting out new flowers so maybe they are getting ready to put out more cantaloupe

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carolync1(z8/9 CA inland)

You might get lucky if there are some female flowers, your plants stay healthy and the weather holds for you. Aphids, spider mites and white flies have taken a toll on my first planting of melons. I have a later batch with melons starting to size up.

Quality of the fruit may not be as good for cantaloupes ripened in cool weather. Good luck.

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ltilton

Fungicides can retard it. If it's just a few leaves you can take them off, but the spores are all over. Best to spray preemptively for PM

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Castle619

Thank you for all your help

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gardenlen(s/e qld aust)

yes they were tasty, just that some who drug out on paranoia around here nicknamed me and pnbrown, no there is not one single evidentary case of anyone getting sick let alone worse, from using a leach field as an annual vege patch, flowers if they want, going to grow pumpkins, melons and tomatos on it as well this coming season.

the doomsayers are probably stirring their cauldron cursing people like me

anyhow all enjoy while we can, got some more kipflers ready to harvest.

len

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gardenlen(s/e qld aust)

surprised myself last night i went and ferreted up some more kipflers some red pontiacs as well, appears what i thought were sebagos were pontiacs they had no colour about then and looked to smooth, but anyway no matter any new fresh home grown 'tater will do.

anyhow got a couple or so large kipflers from 2 plants, not bad at all, went down like a treat.

len

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wally_1936(8b)

If the ants are on the outside you should spray them with a few drops of dish soap in a sprayer. If they are trying to get into the silk some use mineral oil on the silk.

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Hi uscjusto

First off, your plant look just fine.

I think, it can use more water(in triple digit), as I said before. I inch of water per week is probably not enough. Then one inch over how big an area ?

I would fertilize it with PHOSPHOROUS rich (poor in Nitrogen) fertilizer, the so-called BLOOM BOOSTER type. After all, you want fruits not foliage.
P.S.
Another reason, your cuke is not producing is because of heat. Do you see some blossom drops? But, if your soil has good drainage, water them more often.

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ltilton

The long, Asian type cukes do seem to produce fewer but larger fruits. That said, the advice here should help you get more production than one at a time.

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Flea beetles LOVE eggplant leaves. However, the damage is only critical at the seedling stage. Thus , after the plant is established, FB cannot harm it seriously.

I have had FB problem for years and have discovered a simple solution: NYLON TULLE. Just throw some fine mesh NT on the plant. FB will not be able to it(make holes in) it. Chemicals/sprays MAY discourage FB butcannot destroy them. THEY HAVE WING, THEY CAN FLY. !!

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flowergirl70ks

My mother-in-law used to go down the row with her flour sifter, worked on cole crops and eggplant too Back in that day, there were no pesticides much to work with, they had to find their own ways to deal with pests.

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HeyJude2012(10b/24 San Diego)

Siamese twins!

Look at my little freak :).

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glib(5.5)

black plastic mulch, with 1 inch drill holes for the transplants?

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mckenziek(9CA)

I don't think you should rely on mulch to control Bermuda grass. It may prevent above-ground greenery, but runners will penetrate it readily and travel long horizontal distances undetected.

You should maybe solarize a huge area, then put your bed in the middle of the solarized area. That way there is a buffer zone between your bed and the bermuda grass. Then aggressively pull up runners in the buffer area.

You could also put in a concrete slab, then put your raised bed on top of the slab (need some holes in the side near the bottom for drainage). That would be a permanent solution, as long as you don't let runners find their way into the drainage holes. The slab should extend several feet on either side of the raised bed to make this less likely.

Just brainstorming. I haven't had problems with bermuda grass where I live. I don't think it can survive the summer without irrigation.

--McKenzie

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

IF you need TWO plants it means that one is male and the other female.

No it doesn't. Just like tomato plants the tomatillo plants don't have separate sexes.

Having two increases the number of blooms at the same time and the amount of available pollen 200 fold so adequate pollination for a good crop is also increased. Same holds true for squash plants for example.

if you want to hand pollinate 1 plant or raise your own bees fine. Otherwise multiple plants is the way to go.

Dave

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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

The first time I tried, I just got one plant and very few fruit. Then I gave up for a couple of years!
Last year a volunteer came up, and I had bunches!
This year I planted 2 and am getting so so amounts, but I still have almost 3 months of time before it starts getting cold!
Good luck! Nancy

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Your plant is not very healthy and vigorous, that is why.
It can be told from the size of stems and leaves. IMO, either the plants are getting ready to retire OR something is lacking.

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mommomsgarden(6/Jersey Girl!)

What could b lacking?

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lgteacher(SCal zone 9b)

Loam and manure sound good, providing the manure is well composted, but adding sand to clay is a recipe for cement. I'm getting good results with the Square Foot Garden mix - peat, vermiculite and compost in equal parts, but when I first started my raised bed, I just added Amend to the native soil. Mine was clay, too, but probably not as hard as Phoenix clay. One positive aspect of clay is that it contains lots of minerals.

Here is a link that might be useful: My raised bed garden

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lilydude

I don't know about adding sand to Arizona clay, but I've been adding sand to New Jersey, Oregon and Washington clay for about 40 years now, and it works great. You have to add quite a bit of sand for it to really work. Like 1/4 to 1/3 by volume. Google "soil triangle".

The real problem here is that ddot15 is giving us almost no information. Have you had a soil test done? Do your neighbors grow good vegetables? Is your soil still extremely dense, even with the sand? Do weeds grow in your soil mix?

You are growing in an 18 inch deep container, right? Soil with some sand mixed in is not going to drain well in that situation. That's why they make potting mix. It's very coarse, so it drains even in a container. Your plant roots need oxygen. They can't get it if they are in saturated soil. You can break up your soil mix by adding perlite or pumice or gravel to it. Sand isn't good enough; its particle size is too small for container mix.

Are the sides of your containers shaded from the sun? If the soil gets too hot, the roots will die.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Link below is to several discussions of the same question that the search pulls up and will answer your question.

Looks like you have both powdery and downey mildew problems and both are discussed in the link.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Squash leaves turn yellow discussions

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susanzone5(z5NY)

Peas can handle some frost. Now is a good time to plant them in zone 5. You can also plant lettuce, kale, chard, radishes, dill and other short season crops. Wait till October to plant garlic and spinach, which will winter over.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree. They are quite frost tolerant, just not hard freeze tolerant so planting now should be ideal for you. I can't plant mine until mid-September as it is still far too hot for them til then.

Dave

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2ajsmama

Soaked my Dwarf Gray Sugar and Oregon Sugar for a little over 24 hours, was going to plant yesterday but had to do grocery shopping, laundry and Dwarf weren't germinating yet in the baggie. Going to plant today in full sun empty spot between my pole beans and tomatoes, see how they do. I want August to be warm enough for tomatoes and peppers (and my 2nd crop of summer squash just seeded a couple of days ago) but not too hot for the peas!

I should have done spring peas but we went on vacation in April and I thought it was going to get too warm too soon for peas (and it did get hot the end of May but bet they would have loved all the rain in June!). My dad started snow peas at Memorial Day, they got washed out and he replanted though I told him they were a cool-weather crop, now he's got pods! Big "I told you so" from Dad! But his peas are in shade - I'll have to see how some do next year in spot where my Little Leaf and de Bourbonne cukes are now - shaded until 10AM .

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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

My peas are up.

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Those shown in the picture, above, have been picked at the right time.

Straight 8 !??!! No way Jose'...
They look like Boston pickling. (Two on the left)

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Marcijean(9A)

I live in Southern California too and I am having the same problem. But I am growing them in containers and letting the vine on a trellis. I just figure the roots are unhappy.

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