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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Pick them whenever they are big enough to suit you. The longer you let them stay the bigger the seeds get.

Rodney

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ninecrow(England)

Thank You VERY Much, Have Had 3 of This Plant Now, With Hopefully More to Come....

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rgreen48(7a)

Sounds good K. And I wonder if I can make that fritter thing work without an egg? :-?

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katyajini(z6 NYC)

rgreen48: You know, I was thinking exactly the same thing. The next time I make them, and there will be a next time soon, I want to try them without egg too. With the egg they certainly are delicious and remind me of Korean style scallion pancakes (well just a little bit, not totally). I suppose the proportion of flour would have to be a little higher to be able to bind and I would use water to make a very thick batter and fold and work the flowers and herbs and seasonings in. I will post when I do make them again. I hope you enjoy making them and having them. We do love to eat don't we!

K.

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TheNewLandscape.com(10)

LOL yea I figure the soil bed is probably too shallow. I had an old 3-tier util cart that I upcycled as a vertical planter, but I guess the depth of the shelves just don't really work out too well LOL My next gardening project is a real raised bed garden, 12" or 16" in deep - will try the lettuce and kales again

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

In addition to all the above, both are early spring, cool weather crops. So depending on where you live it may be far too warm - both air and soil - for them now. further, both are taproot plants. Taproots can easily reach 6-8" or more.

Dave

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jerryhammonds01_aol_com

Will 7 dust be ok?

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Laura McCarthy

This looks like what I have! How did you treat it?

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missmopo

Thank you! I was thinking that's what it looked like from what I could find online. I have been using Neem oil. My pickling cukes aren't misshapen at all, just the slicers. I will try watering them more often.

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daniel_nyc(7a)

Morgan wrote: > Some of the older growth has begun to yellow and a couple leaves have died...

Some of the leaves of my cucumbers also died.

Please check my thread Cucumbers support to see what I did to solve the problem.

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starsplitter(5a New Eng)

Thanks, Dave! Maybe I will at least get some squash that is decent. I tend to collect seed, being as much curious as cheapskate. I also tend to keep seed too long, but it looks like some seed is forgiving. This year I tossed 9 yr old seed onto the bird table and front garden and was surprised to see a few dill plants and some sort of mustard-related green (probably from a mixed mesclun sort of packet. I wish I could find the yummy (?heirloom green-when-ripe tomato seeds that I carefully saved.

I have a bunch of clematis seeds from two years ago (or last year) and read about how to sow large flower type clems (it can take up to three years? gasp. I just tossed some into one garden, but nothing so far -- the soil is dry and sandy there. I know that it is _not_ an easy way to get clematis plants, but I wondered what I'd get from a maybe Nelly Moser and maybe Anna Louise combo. I have them (in the wrong spot, my veggie garden) side by side on a garden fence. My garden in the back is a mish mosh of "holding area," experiment area and vegetable and flower garden. Long story.

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Tracy West

Waiting,eat those blossoms!

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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

Where I live, the water used for irrigation is very hard, so I find any winter moisture beneficial in helping to leach out some of the extra minerals. Not to mention, it is much easier to feed the soil than it is to kill bugs, so I would be inclined to leave things uncovered.

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catherinet(5 IN)

Thanks tishtoshnm!

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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

I think growing seedlings indoors can be pretty much ideal conditions, if you have good lights. How else would it be less than ideal? Nothing sacred about sunlight or outside air, though once mature, needed free pollinators aren't around. The trouble with growing indoors is available room. Hardening off is a stress that direct-seeded plants don't endure, because they've already endured the stresses from the varying and often suboptimal temperatures under which they've been trying to sprout at.

Direct seeding puts tiny fragile seedlings at the mercy of driving rain, wind, temperatures, and even cutworms.

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MK

Thanks all for your input. Lots of knowledge among you! Thanks for the info on rotating crops. I was a little take aback when my garden friend advised me my beds planting should be rotated that often! The info offered by you collectively makes sense. Thanks for the summary info of the tap root explaining my tomatoes' growth. For those asking for photos: This is the volunteer:

This is the horrible example. Yes, there are tomatoes but the leaves look pretty bad and generally unhealthy. It is growing in a bed with zucchini and basil. Yes, I'm training it up a string to trellis above.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

<Splitting tomatoes will only occur IF the plant is not consistently getting enuff water then you have a rain where the plant can get as much water as it needs and wants.>

That's a bit too broad a statement for my comfort gumby. First because some varieties are much more prone to splitting and cracking than others regardless of the water consistency. Second because splitting and cracking can be caused just as much by the gardener over-watering and just as much by under-watering as by over-watering.

Dave

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gumby_ct(CT it says Z5)

Certainly some varieties may be more prone to splitting - so are you saying that water does not play a role?

I don't think you can overwater a tomato plant - well maybe you can (if it was in a pot or clay soil) but that is NOT the cause of splitting it is because your plant is NOT used to taking in the water it wants and needs.

Said another way splitting is a sign of underwatering followed by overwatering - overwatering would cause the plant to yellow, not produce fruit, and die.

I have posted this link before - it is useful for more than tomato plants.
http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010137veg.roots/010137ch26.html

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Logan Farmer

If your problem is slugs eggshells is a great fix. Crumble them up and put the all around your garden. They a FULL of calcium and nutrients that is great for your plants and soil. Also, slugs will not crawl over the egg she'll crumbles as they hurt there bottom side. It won't do anything for insects but its so easy to just toss them in there you might as well give it a try!

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Cecilia Lallier

I have the same problem and can't not be birds, because I fenced with small holes chicken wire, is imposible for birds to go true the plants..

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n2xjk

Something to watch with Kandy Korn is the tip of the ear can poke out of the husk when it matures, making it very attractive to birds.

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Jim's(6 East end of Long Island)

Whoa, thank you VERY much for that. I just checked on them and found they grow 8'+! I'll have to net over the bed I suppose.

Thanks for the heads up.

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israelithyme

Marianne and Sulani62,

Thank you! That sounds like a wonderful rule to go by Marianne (this is my first time growing eggplant but definitely won't be the last and that is a rule I won't forget :)

Sulani -- did you get a good harvest from yours? We've got 4 Pandoras and 4 Astrakom eggplants in the garden and the Astrakom's started off having 4 or 5 fruit on each plant at a time but production now seems to be falling off with them quite a lot (about one per plant). Guess it is a good thing that the Pandora's are just starting to fruit.

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sulani62

Can't say I did. I got so many bugs on the plants, most of the leaves got chewed up. Plus letting the fruits sit on the plants didn't help.now I know better.

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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

If you can hardly find the outside of your borderless raised beds because weeds have overtaken both the pathways and the beds. Or if while you are harvesting bush beans you find yourself spending less time picking beans and more time pulling weeds just to get to the plants.

Rodney

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karlsmom(5)

Or if your husband goes into the garden with a weed eater -

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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I trapped about 12 mice and voles in my sweetpotatoes last year with mouse traps. I like the new type that operates by a raise loop that sets and releases...peanut butter.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree with Wayne that baited traps are quite effective in eliminating mice in the garden. I just use the old fashioned, cheap wooden ones you set (with care ;) and bait with peanut butter. And yes a mouse can nibble 1/2 through a corn stalk over night.

Dave

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grubby_AZ Tucson Z9

Since soybeans need lots of sun, grow three feet tall and around, and are also dependent on day length, I'd never try it.

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farmerdill

In doors I would not try. Easy as green beans to grow in the ground tho. Just take a little longer.

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