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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

It's hard to tell with the up-side down picture, but it SOUNDS like gophers!
Do you see any gopher mounds around your garden? Voles just have little 1 inch holes, moles leave trails of mounded dirt and gophers have big ole mounds!
They can squeeze through incredibly small spaces and will find any hole in your wire, no problem!
I've watched as a gopher took a plant down it's hole and it surely "just disappeared"!
We have been using some of those stakes you put into the ground that either put out a squealing type sound or a chattering sound every 30 seconds or so, for the last 3 years or so and the only gopher action we have seen in the garden proper has been when the batteries went dead. We still have tons of gophers all over the rest of the property!
Those chattering things are helpful, but in my book, raised beds lined with very strong hardware cloth, or containers are the way to go if you determine there are gophers in the area! They WILL find your garden if they are anywhere close!!! Nancy

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 8:57PM
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ChicagoDeli37

Thanks this stuff works well.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 6:58PM
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ChicagoDeli37

Hope

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 6:59PM
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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

Thanks Dave! i sort of figured that since I've never heard of anyone doing it, but they look so full of life that I was hoping for a different answer.
And your sweet potato reference was right on! I didn't think about until you said it, but I knew they reminded me of something I couldn't place.

Thanks again.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 8:04AM
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insteng

You can cut a small piece of the potato off along with the sprout and plant it. I've used peelings before with eyes and planted them with no problems. That way you still get to eat the potato as well as have some to plant.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 6:27PM
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farmerdill

Most are climbing but there are at least two bush varieties. They are grown for the pods. different flavor and texture than snap beans. Very good in stir frys and chinese dishes tho.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 4:25PM
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nc_crn

If you like "black eye peas"/southern/crowder pea type flavors then yard longs are good.

They're not the same as the "meaty/thick" green/snap beans in texture or flavor.

That said, much like okra, they don't care how hot it gets...they're going to produce.

In very hot summer climates they're a wonderful vegetable that produces when every thing else suffers or slows.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 5:37PM
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Deborah-SC(8a)

Just nail/screw it to the bottom 2 inches & let four inches hang down. (Hence, the trough). Then fill the trough back in with dirt. Take care!

Here is a link that might be useful: Flashing

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 12:03PM
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gardenlen(s/e qld aust)

i'd suggest let the onions grow and when you pick them top up the whole bed but at that end use some timber or other to place along that area down into the base soil, then pack new dirt in behind it, me if i had some say 50mm sized stones around i'd just put them there and fill soil over the top.

len

Here is a link that might be useful: lens garden page

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 4:36PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

BC, here's how to tell millipedes from centipedes at a quick glance: millipedes have two legs per body segment, while centipedes have one. You picture clearly shows two legs per segment.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 12:43PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

it was said "millipedes have two legs per body segment, while centipedes have one"

Not quite right.
Millipedes have 4 legs (or two pair) per body segment, while centipedes have 2 legs (or one pair).

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 2:55PM
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ltilton

Cats

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 12:41PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Get some 3" nails and drill a hole through your wooden mouse traps and anchor them to the earth. That makes all the energy of the snap go into the bar, rather than flipping the trap around. Then, if you want to be extra diligent, make some tunnel covers out of rain gutter. That way you can set a trap on opposite sides of the hole and force them to step on it if they want to go anywhere. Works a charm around the potatoes.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 2:41PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Your best source of info would be the Asian Gardening forum here. I'd just call them Asian collard greens since that is what they are.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Asian Gardening forum

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 12:01PM
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Faced1

Soaking the paper in a sugar solution will cut down on the blow away. They do the same thing with "EZ straw" and sell it as "tackifier" when its really just a sugar.

It makes a fine mulch if you add some worms, they keep it broken up and penetrable for water.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 1:27AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

That's a clever idea, "tackifying" the paper with some kind of sugar. I have to assume, though, that it gets less tacky after some rain. The guar tack that is used in EZ-Straw is probably a less soluble kind of sugar than kitchen sugar.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 11:21AM
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planatus(6)

Looks like it did what cauliflower does -- forms a little head that is now "ricey" and overmature.

It might or might not have had a happier ending if you had blanched the head as soon as you saw it starting to form. The plant looks great.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 9:57AM
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topsiebeezelbub(z7 Al)

I planted Red Russian kale in Jan. and it has lasted 2 years...next year planted earlier, in Oct. and it bolted early next spring...plants are confusin!

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 4:03PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Red Russian is a great self sower for me. I always leave a few plants to flower. Last year I cut the stems with green seed pods and used them to cover a row of freshly sown peas. I find that covering peas with something twiggy puts off the wood pigeons which are a menace here. My thinking was that the kale would then drop its seeds in the pea row and by the time the peas were done I'd have a row of kale babies. It worked perfectly and I have a row of kale where I had peas . I will definitely do it again this year.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 4:14AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

It's definitely not too late to start again from seed in Utah. I am also in Utah (Spanish Fork) and my zucchini just barely sprouted a week ago. Put some seeds in the ground and you will have a stronger plant than putting a transplant in.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 9:45PM
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Brett801(South Jordan, UT (5))

Thanks everybody for the confirmation. I am not quitting now, I'm having to much fun.

I am planing on growing a single stem and thus the stake.

Example: http://www.mysquarefootgarden.net/pruning-zucchini/

Here is a link that might be useful: Single stem zucchini

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 12:53AM
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LawrenceJ2007

I'm in zone 7 or Chattanooga, TN. It rained last week a bit and I checked the soil and I didn't water them because the soil was quite wet. But Friday they were getting to the watering stage and I thought about watering then the rain started. So it's been raining a lot these past few days.

The peppers have been gradually getting light green, but I didn't notice how much until I planted some Red Savina's beside them and noticed the completely different green. I'll post a photo of the Red Savinas to see.

Well I planted them almost a month ago on May 6th. I watered them and gave them a bit of fertilizer to start off, it was Miracle grow All Purpose. So that was the last time I fertilized them.

Once I noticed the peppers changing I did a home soil test, one of the ones that tests pH, Nitrogen, Phosphorous, and Potash. The Nitrogen and Phosphorous were low so that's when I figured I was about to have something happen.

I started using an Epsom Salt spray about a week ago to see if it was something easy to fix quick, but sadly not.

My watering before was the first two days I planted them I watered them with a gallon can so I put about 2 gallons over the 220 sq. ft. Did this for two days.

So once I got the water levels when I wanted them I left them be.

So,
pH 6.5 - 6.8
Nitrogen - Low
Phosphorous - Low
Potash - Medium

The soil I am using is compost i've made from bagged leaves, grass, small sticks, and let it sit, that's it. Each bed has about 9 inches of this compost before it meets regular ground.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 11:28PM
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LawrenceJ2007

Jean, Sorry did not see your post. Someone had sprayed some weeks and weeks ago, but nothing recent, it had killed all the grass around but the grass is growing back no problems

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 11:43PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Row covers, row covers, row covers. Easy, cheap, reusable, organic, effective--what more could you want?

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 6:19AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Row covers would be useless in my backyard. Row covers are for people who have space.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 11:22PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Like ltilton says.........it's healthy. Rejoice!

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 5:59PM
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captivatedlife(5/Denver)

I WISH I had that problem! I need to keep amending our soil. It's only the first year though, so who knows what will happen! Enjoy!

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 9:49PM
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