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I've found varieties but can't find 1 vendor that carries all. I went order 4 pkg. from one vendor and they wanted $8+ for mailing.

Yes that is the reality of the situation. You won't find just one vendor that has everything you want and need.

But the seed packets store almost indefinitely so it is a one time expense.

Dave

Concur; It is difficult if not impossibel to find a single vendor who carries all the varieties one may want. While folks grow all types of regular size vegetables in containers by growing vertical ( trellis) small compact plants are desirable under many conditions. The two categories that need this are cucubits (squash melons and cucumbers) and solanums (tomatoes eggplants and peppers) Corn is not a great container plant but shorter >5 ft plants will work.
Several vendors carry Bush cucucumbers either pickling or slicers. There are lots of bush melons and even a few bush watermelons). Most summer squash wil work, even tho zucchini plants can get a bit large. The round types like Cueball, One Ball, Eight Ball, Lucky 8 are a bit more compact.. Winter squash, look for bush types. As for tomatoes, regular indeterminates pruned to a single or double leader and trellised work well. If not the there are lots of compact varieties available ranging from Patio to Arbason. As for eggplant Hansel and Gretel are popular but there are other compact varieties available. Peppers should not be a problem.

Here is a link that might be useful: Container tomatoes

1. I'm impressed 2. I'm jealous you have so much room 3. What's the scale on here?

Thanks for the heads up Floral_uk. The raspberries and blueberries aren't in yet, so maybe I need to reconsider that set up. Thanks Chris! I'm kind of obsessed right now, and have spent a lot of time on it. It's easy when you love doing it :). I like how much room we have, but maybe it's not as big as it looks. I think I have enough room for each plant. Each gray square along the perimeter on the left side is a square foot. I haven't measured the right side, so it may not be to scale.

Tom, I live in northern MA, within walking distance of NH. Our area is rich in limestone, which makes our soil have too much lime in it. How can I reduce the lime and normalize the soil's PH so that the peppers will grow? Last year I tried some raised beds, but the coir that was recommended and put in actually caused my plants to die within a few weeks. But THAT'S a different problem, which I am solving next year by mixing in tons of well-rotted horse manure from a pile that is 4 years old.

BreaHouston: This thread is almost 5 years old. The general rule for ph adjusting is lime to raise it and soil sulfur to lower it. Takes a few months though... so add a little, test 3-4 months later and adjust accordingly.

Kevin

I was also wondering how one can grow peas in UK, in winter. So Flora clarified it . I am in PNW (state of Washington. We have UK-like weather too. Right now it is gently raining temps in mid 40s F. Good weather for onions family and parsley, Rosemary, Sage, oregano .... I plaant peas in March up here. Runner been a bit later . They live until the frost.

Seysonn

'Flora, in southern England don't fall-planted peas over-winter and then flower early in spring?'

tcstoehr has pretty much got the picture. You can overwinter peas most years but they need to go though winter no more than a few inches tall and will still not flower until late April or May. Our springs are long and the increase in temperature is very gradual so they don't really grow that fast. Some years they rot right away, they are often eaten by mice or slugs and many years they are no earlier than outdoor sowings unless you give them protection throughout the winter. I don't bother with them any more, although I do sow favas, which come through the winter better. I just sow peas in the Spring. And it is true there is very little light. At the moment sunrise and sunset are roughly 8 hours apart. The sun is extremely low, IF it comes out from the blanket of clouds.

Winters here are not massively cold but they are pretty dark and rather wet.

I grow savoy cabbage as a winter harvest crop. I sow it in little starter packs, outside in mid June, transplant to bigger pots all under remay and watered faithfully, then into the garden, still under row covers, in mid August. I harvest in Dec. and Jan. And last winter, the last two heads survived the polar vortex--colder than 6 below zero, with no damage whatsoever. Remarkable plants.

I plant a fall garden every year. In N. C. you have to sew
seed in mid July, but its so hot I have to grow the plants
in the shade. I have a shed on the North side of a block
barn with a plastic roof. It takes about 6 wks. to grow a transplant and its cooler by then, about Labor Day. I plant
broc., cabbage, cauliflower and collards.

Don't worry, they will be fine at cool room temps -- just don't refrigerate them. Choose a couple of the largest ones that have no apparent cuts or bruises, and set those aside to work with in the spring. Sweet potatoes are slow to break dormancy, easy and fun to grow.

You have to store sweet potatoes at temperature of
55 deg. F. or higher. I store my eating potatoes and seed potatoes in a spare bed room with door closed and no heat.
The temp. stays about 60 deg. F. all winter. If the temp. get up in the 70 plus range the seed potatoes will sprout prematurely.

"longer" implies the days currently have some kind of length to them ;)

I have sent in 1 seed order and have a couple more to do.

May I ask about the size of the chips?

I'm not sure there are great descriptive standards out there. Most of the nurseries/yard centers around here have samples out.

I used to buy shredded hardwood mulch for my front beds. It was ground pretty fine. A couple of inches of that broke down each year. I now have a free source of similar material from the township and plan (hope) to cover my vegetable garden.

I have a pickup, a big shovel and lots of time so I will be hard at work...until my back goes.

I have read about Back to Eden method etc. But I think that planting in anything that is green and waiting to compost is not the right thing to do. Also goes for mulching vegetables garden with wood chips.

Those stuff aldo bound Nitrogen. A lot of people often complain that despite of regular fertilizing , their plants are not doing well. Come to find out that the soil has too much unfinished/raw compost. Anothe problem with with wood chips is that they make a heaven for a lot of bugs and insects, termite, ants, pill bugs, earwigs,

However, I do mix in and mulch with conifur bark (not shredded wood chips). Pine , fur , hemlock bark make good soil amendments and mulch.

So clearly there are pro and cons on using wood chips in/on vegetables garden. JMO

Seysonn

My knowledge of hybreds go back to my high school vo-ag classes of how hybred seed corn is bred. a simple explanation is take 2 parents each excel at some features. Crossing the 2 parents produce a seed that carries the features of the parents at a superior level of the two individual parents.
Developing hybreds is a complex science. I grew hybred plants for there features. I also grow a few heirlooms for customers who think they are better.

You are right Steve, it definately not that simple and not all genes are Mendelian.

However, there is a reason that Mendel and the punnet square are tought as basic principles so that those who are unfamiliar with genetics have some sort of baseline of how heredity works. :)

I'm wondering a few things about this squash now!

What do they taste like? Similar to butternut or something else?

Diseases?

I would say they taste similar to Acorn. It's different from the true winter squashes like Butternut or Hubbards. Smoother, sweeter and moister. Of course add butter to taste.
I don't have any disease issues with them, except that powdery mildew hits them hard in September. But they still reliably deliver a solid crop.
Here's this year's Delicata Squash patch on October 8th. It looks like a mess but there's gold in there. If I had only one crop to grow, this would be it.

Can't resist the answer: slow as Christmas! In my experience, the open pollinated varieties are especially slow to put out that first true leaf. With beets, I think one of the diffs between the ops and hybrids is more vigorous early growth in the hybrids.

Here is a link that might be useful: graphic of beet roots

Thanks for the feedback everyone. The seedlings haven't gotten a ton of direct sunlight because it's been a little dark lately with all the rain but they aren't really in the shade either. I guess I'll have to do some soil testing for acidity.

Yesterday I finally noticed some baby leaves forming on a couple of them so I'll give them awhile longer until I write them off completely.

Thanks farmerdill and nugrndnut (sp)

My soil is loose and can handle any long carrots... For both Spinach and carrots I am more concerned about the weather being winter.

This post was edited by shayneca25 on Sun, Dec 21, 14 at 21:26

Spinach is one of the most cold hearty plants you could grow. I don't imagine your winters are an issue but I really dont know your climate.

Carrots supposedly tolerate light frost only, but the ones I grew were extremely hardy no problem to the teens.

If you want a more reliable thing for cold temps it is spinach. But you really don't get a lot... it vanishes when cooked. But it is also faster maturing generally.

Stuff, you are probably chuckling at our paltry rain amounts, but we're hoping for a wetter winter! Nancy

I wish I only had 40-50" of rain a year. :)

If you have room for a herb garden that is also highly recommended... I love my herb garden, especially considering some of it is perennial. It is attractive all year and rewarding. It does not take a lot of space.

If you plant asparagus, plant it on the north side as it is a shady plant. I think you need to move the cantaloupes to the new location as they can be very disease prone if planting again and again in the same spot.