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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Things look pretty good. As I saw above, squash are quite close. Do I see 16 squash???????? How many people are you feeding????? DH and I have 1 zuk and 1 crookneck and usually end up giving some away! Nancy

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 8:28PM
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njitgrad

Thanks for all the advice.I pinched off the squash flowers. Nancyjane those 16 plants are not squash, but cucumbers (4 different varieties).

    Bookmark     May 22, 2013 at 10:15AM
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obrionusa(5)

Dave, How deep did you plant them in the pots?

    Bookmark     May 22, 2013 at 6:23AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Just as you would in the garden - 6" or so. Make a hill of potting mix in center of pot, spread the roots out around it and cover with enough mix so that the top of the crown is just barely covered with soil. Add more soil as needed as it grows. Keep well watered.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 22, 2013 at 9:21AM
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socks

You'll love that convenience this summer.

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 9:40PM
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ChicagoDeli37

This cold snap might never end. Saturday I want to plant but lows in the lower 40s I can't wait no longer though

    Bookmark     May 22, 2013 at 8:33AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Going to be a common problem for many of this year because of all the delays in planting caused by the weird weather. Next year you can get around it by transplanting them to bigger containers if planting is delayed.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 6:17PM
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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

Thanks folks!

Last year I started my seeds too late and we had a warm spring. This year I started them a month earlier, but we had a cool spring!

Another year, another mistake!!

    Bookmark     May 22, 2013 at 8:06AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

My seedlings that I grew from seed are already setting flowers as well, and they are also small due to the fact that I planted them deep when I set them out. I am leaving them be and will see what happens.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2013 at 12:02AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Flowers do not necessary end up to be fruits. Besides that, the plant will decide if it can grow fruits or not. I have a tomatillo plant that since I purchased it over 2 weeks ago, keeps flowering and then aborting. Because it is not warm enough. Tomatoes are like that too but they are more tolerant of cold.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2013 at 2:04AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Some plants become stunted as a result of exposure to cold temps early in life. It "might" recover but it is still early enough in the season to just replace it.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 6:20PM
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Garden.Geek(6)

Thanks, I will throw this one out and plant another just in case. :) At least she'll have the other one until this one catches up.

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 9:03PM
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macky77(2a)

I'm guessing first-hand Foster's has to do with first growing certain types of grains, no? ;)

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 3:31PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Fosters lager. 2nd hand because it has already been used once. Excellent on the compost heap too. (In fact my opinion of Fosters is that it's only sensible use is on the compost heap or garden.)

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 4:33PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

Picked these today and I there are a few more still coming.

    Bookmark     September 1, 2012 at 3:51PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

This year I had seeds for the Suyo Long which were left over from last year and I never even got around to starting. So I am trying Suyo Long for my Asian cucumber selection this year. In fact I already seeded it and some seeds are sprouting already.

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 2:42PM
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ediej1209(5 N Central OH)

Yeah, these were bulbs I'd ordered and DH had said that he would fix a bed for them last fall... never happened so in desperation I plopped them into my raised garden just before the snow started falling. My thought was that as the peppers grew the foliage on the tulips would die down and they could live in some kind of peace together but someone mentioned to me that they heard that tulip bulbs were poisonous and that it would affect anything planted with them. That's why I was wondering... thanks for the info - I will go ahead and let the tulips die down a little and then plant the peppers. Probably better to wait and let the soil warm up a bit more anyway... it's supposed to cool down again this coming weekend. Based on what donnabaskets said about spacing, the peppers and tomatoes would be too crowded if I tried to interplant them (tomatoes are already in the ground.)
Thanks again!
Edie

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 12:18PM
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kathyb912_in (5a/5b, Central IN)

Tulip bulbs are poisonous when eaten, so you'd want to keep them away from pets or small children who might put them in their mouths. But that's very different from poisoning nearby plants.

Now if you wanted to plant those peppers near a Black Walnut tree, you'd have a problem. :)

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 1:11PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

"I think I've been reading WAY too many books and articles. :) "

I do that too, but I don't act on everything I read. It's more of a pleasant way to spend time in the recliner. In the garden my approach is "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

Jim

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 4:41PM
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Garden.Geek(6)

Thanks to everyone for your feedback. I'm going to back off a bit and just let them be for a while. :) This is my third year at it, but the first time I've tried raised beds rather than containers, which I live so much more! :D Also, I live in a small town and only have a Lowes and a Walmart to choose from for gardening supplies, which definitely limits me, especially in the organic category. I think I'm going to turn my attention more towards my compost bin for my main source of fertilizer. Thanks! :)

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 12:06PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

I'm not familiar with the particular brand of organic fert. but organic ferts are usually slow-release and your plant may not be getting nutrients fast enough to keep up with growth. I'd give it a shot of soluble fertilizer.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 10:41PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Over watering, IMO, is a problem in pot gardening. The reason being that there is more frequent watering, sometimes twice in a day. Combine this with excess watering. Then practically any time you water, it is like rinsing the root system(with some exageration).

another reason that plant may not get enough nutrient is root bound situation, i.e. too much root chasing too little nutrients.
But over watering can also happen in the garden too, especially when the soil is too sandy . Here too, nutrients are leached.

In both cases, knowing HOW MUCH to water can help. For example where a pot just needs a glass of water, you give it a quart of water and you can see right away that most of it is drained out.

The purpose of water for plants is not like what it is to us. Plants need just right amount and just enough to provide dampness. Or at least mosr of garden veggie are like that.

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 2:40AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree, wet it well and then tear all of it off.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 11:35PM
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Prachi(6b (NJ))

Thanks ... I will take them off.

    Bookmark     May 21, 2013 at 1:02AM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Powdery mildew is fairly common to onions....but don't worry, the strain of PM that affects onions will not infest other plant species.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 10:09PM
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ChicagoDeli37

Thanks should I just leave it be, is it still safe to eAt?

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 11:38PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Here is what I take on this issue. When I direct sow seeds in the garden, the soil is more likey balanced. Which means it has all the nutients to some extent. So then presence of some nutrienst in starter soil should be fine. Then the plants will decide when and how much they need to take. The only exception to this, in my mind, is excesive amount of N.

But I could be wrong there . Maybe that is why you can get better results by planting in a controlled medium. As Dave pointed out, more than anything else, you want strong roots first . That is why you feed mostly P & K early on.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 4:41AM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

I plant eggplants in nutrient-containing potting mix 8 weeks before planting out and I always fertilize with N, P, K and Mg at the 5 week stage, otherwise they begin showing deficiency symptoms especially those of N and Mg.
Before seeding, I also soak the mix with a very dilute micronutrient solution containing B, otherwise my seedlings show B deficiencies by the 2nd week.
Personally, if I was using potting mix with no added fert, I would not wait until the 4th week to fertilize.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 11:19PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

It's hard to tell with the up-side down picture, but it SOUNDS like gophers!
Do you see any gopher mounds around your garden? Voles just have little 1 inch holes, moles leave trails of mounded dirt and gophers have big ole mounds!
They can squeeze through incredibly small spaces and will find any hole in your wire, no problem!
I've watched as a gopher took a plant down it's hole and it surely "just disappeared"!
We have been using some of those stakes you put into the ground that either put out a squealing type sound or a chattering sound every 30 seconds or so, for the last 3 years or so and the only gopher action we have seen in the garden proper has been when the batteries went dead. We still have tons of gophers all over the rest of the property!
Those chattering things are helpful, but in my book, raised beds lined with very strong hardware cloth, or containers are the way to go if you determine there are gophers in the area! They WILL find your garden if they are anywhere close!!! Nancy

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 8:57PM
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