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ltilton

Those are the cotyledons. What those seedlings need now is stronger light.

Starting a few more seeds than you need is commonly done. I'd pinch off the larger, spindly ones and save the newly-germinated ones, getting them into more light will give them a better start.

It is, however, late for broccolis in your zone. You'll probably have better luck with your squash.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2013 at 11:24AM
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t-bird(Chicago 5/6)

they do look like brassicas - the tell is the butterfly shaped wings. They all come out like that, radish, cabbage, kale, broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, mitsuna - you need to wait for the 2nd set of leave (true leaves) to see how they are shaping up.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2013 at 11:33AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree. Get a professional soil test done by your local county ag extension office. Costs $10-12 dollars in most places. That's the only way you'll know exactly what it needs.

In the mean time scout for a local source of bulk compost and a 25-50lb. bag of cottonseed meal or alfalfa meal to bulk up the N levels to cope with all the bark and wood chips. Just don't apply until you get the soil test back. Normally has a 1 week turn around time.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 11:20PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

As several folks have mentioned in your other thread on the sickly tomatoes, the questions about sufficient sun exposure and planting methods are also problems for you that need to be resolved. Even with ideal soil mix if there isn't sufficient sun exposure you are going to have difficulty.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 11, 2013 at 10:55AM
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zzackey(8b GA)

I can't tell what is wrong by the photos. The bottom leaves turn yellow when they need fertilizer. With all of that rain they might need to be refertilized.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 8:30PM
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planatus(6)

Judging from the color of the new growth, the plants are taking up plenty of nitrogen and are poised to make vigorous growth when they get warm sun.

The older leaves are stressed and probably incubating early blight, so I would go ahead and clip them off. A leaf with more than 30 percent of its photosynthetic capacity offline is not worth keeping. I would also mulch with something to help keep the leaves dry -- plastic or cloth if it keeps raining, grass clippings or rotting wood chips when the rain stops. The mulch will also encourage more shallow roots to grow, which will serve the plants well in the long run.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2013 at 6:44AM
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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

Scare Crow brand. They are great. I do try to make sure they are not guarding too large an area. In my garden, I have two on duty to be sure the entire area is well covered.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 10:02PM
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planatus(6)

I haven't used this device myself, but I have heard first-hand from others that it works really well when used in a small area.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2013 at 6:35AM
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fusion_power

Given you are in zone 9, you could do it, but will likely have some issues with soil fertility. Sweet potatoes do not like high levels of nitrogen in the soil.

DarJones

    Bookmark     May 11, 2013 at 12:06AM
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raistlyn

Thanks Dave! I will try to be patient indeed...

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 12:24PM
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njitgrad

I've never applied benefial nematodes. What are they, how do they help, and how do you apply them?

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 4:20PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Depending on how deep you planted and how much you covered them it and well they are kept watered and how much nutrients are available will be anywhere from 3-6 weeks although it can take longer. See the discussion about this further down the page title newly planted asparagus for more info and details.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 2:26PM
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victory_tea2085(z6 Ny)

I put some crowns in 10 days ago and out of 45 more than 30 have come up. I ,initially, made the mistake of putting them in upside down but went in and righted crowns. The article I followed for planting asparagus said they should begin to pop up in about 1 week. Paul

Here is a link that might be useful: Grow Asparagus

This post was edited by victory_tea2085 on Sun, May 12, 13 at 9:24

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 2:57PM
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planatus(6)

The plant is always a clue because pests are crop specific. Google Images is the fastest way to figure out many entomological mysteries. 'pests of [name of crop]' will usually turn up good .edu-sourced images.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 12:04PM
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ristau5741(6)

wolverine1012 , this place has a _whole_ lotta forums,
go to the front page, click on forums in the upper left,
select garden, home, or nature..

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 12:20PM
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ltilton

A lot of pests only come out at night - cutworms, for example. That could be why you don't see them.

Definitely the best approach is to identify the pest first.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 9:39AM
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ladybug_0820

Thank you all, this is the most help I've gotten on brainstorming this solution. I have gone out at night, but haven't seen anything. I will try again. But with all the seedlings gone, will the buggers at suspect even come out?

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 10:42AM
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saturn1956(6)

Temps forcast to get down to 40 degrees at night next week. Plants are in containers outside. Basil,Tomatoes,Bush Beans,Red Peppers should I bring them in during those nights or should they be ok outside?

Saturn

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 5:23AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Saturn, now that they are in pots, I would bring'em in. ESPECIALLY basils.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 7:17AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

My ornamentals did that too before I moved them to their permanent outdoor containers that I am still bringing in at night because of too low overnight temps. I now have one tiny little pepper growing and a ton more blooms. I think they will be just fine if planted out soon.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 12:42AM
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mandolls(4)

My Serrano peppers are making peppers too. One is almost 2" long already. I plant to thin the load when they go outside. At this point in their growth cycle, you want them to put their energy into growing big and healthy.

As a side note - I bought a lemon tree one year - it was about 6" high, made flowers, actually produced a lemon, and then promptly died (probably of exhaustion)

    Bookmark     May 10, 2013 at 6:26AM
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glib(5.5)

The unfavorability is all in the lengthening days and increasing temperatures. If you were to plant daikon, you would get the same story. Some vegetables are specifically fall and winter vegetables. Arugula behaves similarly.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2013 at 11:24AM
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nickrosesn

Out of the 6 cabbages I had to pull 4 out of the dirt and the two left have not bolted yet. So I'm hoping with luck I'll get cabbage heads from those.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2013 at 8:25PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

IMO, burlap is not an effective weed control cover.
Another thing , probably won't decompose for a long time.

use mulch(whenever I can), that will eventally become a soil improver. I like free stuff like tree leavrs, pine needles, wheat straw. if you have small garden(,Under 100 sqr.ft), you can just enjoy weedind a few minutes a day and cultivate the soill. Weeding is essential in the first half of the season when your plant are small and weeds compete with them for nutrients. After that small weeds should not be a problem. actually some of it can be benefitial.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2013 at 12:25PM
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Sparky1961

Still looking for thought on germinating under burlap...Thanks for the idea of cutting crosses and pinning flaps back. And the other thoughts.Im committed to the burlap coffee bags this year...i find find a layer of two is excellent and any weeds are weak.

Not worried about too much burlap. Do others have thought on my main question? o others?

    Bookmark     May 9, 2013 at 8:11PM
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jodie8

Thank you so much! That's was a lot of good information. I didn't even realize there was a container section of the forum. Should have browsed before I posted but I was excited. :) thanks so much for taking the time to help!

    Bookmark     May 9, 2013 at 4:39PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

You should also visit the Herb Forum, where you will soon have your eyes opened about how large our herbs can get in a short period of time.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2013 at 5:25PM
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