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ltilton

Cats

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 12:41PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Get some 3" nails and drill a hole through your wooden mouse traps and anchor them to the earth. That makes all the energy of the snap go into the bar, rather than flipping the trap around. Then, if you want to be extra diligent, make some tunnel covers out of rain gutter. That way you can set a trap on opposite sides of the hole and force them to step on it if they want to go anywhere. Works a charm around the potatoes.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 2:41PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Your best source of info would be the Asian Gardening forum here. I'd just call them Asian collard greens since that is what they are.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Asian Gardening forum

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 12:01PM
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Faced1

Soaking the paper in a sugar solution will cut down on the blow away. They do the same thing with "EZ straw" and sell it as "tackifier" when its really just a sugar.

It makes a fine mulch if you add some worms, they keep it broken up and penetrable for water.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 1:27AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

That's a clever idea, "tackifying" the paper with some kind of sugar. I have to assume, though, that it gets less tacky after some rain. The guar tack that is used in EZ-Straw is probably a less soluble kind of sugar than kitchen sugar.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 11:21AM
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planatus(6)

Looks like it did what cauliflower does -- forms a little head that is now "ricey" and overmature.

It might or might not have had a happier ending if you had blanched the head as soon as you saw it starting to form. The plant looks great.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 9:57AM
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topsiebeezelbub(z7 Al)

I planted Red Russian kale in Jan. and it has lasted 2 years...next year planted earlier, in Oct. and it bolted early next spring...plants are confusin!

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 4:03PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Red Russian is a great self sower for me. I always leave a few plants to flower. Last year I cut the stems with green seed pods and used them to cover a row of freshly sown peas. I find that covering peas with something twiggy puts off the wood pigeons which are a menace here. My thinking was that the kale would then drop its seeds in the pea row and by the time the peas were done I'd have a row of kale babies. It worked perfectly and I have a row of kale where I had peas . I will definitely do it again this year.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 4:14AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

It's definitely not too late to start again from seed in Utah. I am also in Utah (Spanish Fork) and my zucchini just barely sprouted a week ago. Put some seeds in the ground and you will have a stronger plant than putting a transplant in.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 9:45PM
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Brett801(South Jordan, UT (5))

Thanks everybody for the confirmation. I am not quitting now, I'm having to much fun.

I am planing on growing a single stem and thus the stake.

Example: http://www.mysquarefootgarden.net/pruning-zucchini/

Here is a link that might be useful: Single stem zucchini

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 12:53AM
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LawrenceJ2007

I'm in zone 7 or Chattanooga, TN. It rained last week a bit and I checked the soil and I didn't water them because the soil was quite wet. But Friday they were getting to the watering stage and I thought about watering then the rain started. So it's been raining a lot these past few days.

The peppers have been gradually getting light green, but I didn't notice how much until I planted some Red Savina's beside them and noticed the completely different green. I'll post a photo of the Red Savinas to see.

Well I planted them almost a month ago on May 6th. I watered them and gave them a bit of fertilizer to start off, it was Miracle grow All Purpose. So that was the last time I fertilized them.

Once I noticed the peppers changing I did a home soil test, one of the ones that tests pH, Nitrogen, Phosphorous, and Potash. The Nitrogen and Phosphorous were low so that's when I figured I was about to have something happen.

I started using an Epsom Salt spray about a week ago to see if it was something easy to fix quick, but sadly not.

My watering before was the first two days I planted them I watered them with a gallon can so I put about 2 gallons over the 220 sq. ft. Did this for two days.

So once I got the water levels when I wanted them I left them be.

So,
pH 6.5 - 6.8
Nitrogen - Low
Phosphorous - Low
Potash - Medium

The soil I am using is compost i've made from bagged leaves, grass, small sticks, and let it sit, that's it. Each bed has about 9 inches of this compost before it meets regular ground.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 11:28PM
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LawrenceJ2007

Jean, Sorry did not see your post. Someone had sprayed some weeks and weeks ago, but nothing recent, it had killed all the grass around but the grass is growing back no problems

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 11:43PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Row covers, row covers, row covers. Easy, cheap, reusable, organic, effective--what more could you want?

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 6:19AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Row covers would be useless in my backyard. Row covers are for people who have space.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 11:22PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Like ltilton says.........it's healthy. Rejoice!

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 5:59PM
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captivatedlife(5/Denver)

I WISH I had that problem! I need to keep amending our soil. It's only the first year though, so who knows what will happen! Enjoy!

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 9:49PM
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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

Yes. I agree. I live in Zone 8 and I just planted my okra about ten days ago, and that was pushing it with the late cool weather we have had.

If the plants die, just plant more when the soil warms up. If the soil is really warm, new seeds will take off and out grow these by far, even if you baby them along.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 6:31PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree. Far too early for okra. It is a heat lover and responds poorly to fluctuating spring weather and temps. No one ever plants it here until late June.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 8:03PM
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Growing-In-The-Dark

Thanks Dave, I never thought about ventilation. Having said that, I don't think cooking the plants will be an issue. I live in Ireland. We don't have an abundance of heat or sunshine here. Quite the opposite! Thanks also to fruitnut, that info is handy to know for next year but since I've already bought this roll of poly, I might as well use it this year.

This post was edited by Growing-In-The-Dark on Sun, May 19, 13 at 16:34

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 4:15PM
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jonfrum(6)

As long as it's think enough, your plastic should hold up for a season. If you decide you want to grow under plastic next year, you would be better off getting UV-resistant greenhouse plastic. Do be careful, though - just a few hours direct sun can cook plants if there's no ventilation.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 6:58PM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

From what I've read, the western spotted cucumber beetle (Diabrotica undecimpunctata), sometimes called a "green lady bug," is a major problem in California. It may be different from the one I've dealt with in Ohio.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 3:14PM
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noinwi

You can drape something light over your remaining plant during the hottest part of the day...I used a semi-sheer curtain. My plants were on the west side of our building(when we were in Wisconsin)and it got very hot. The fabric kept the plants cooler but I still had to water the containers twice a day.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 4:14PM
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melikeeatplants

I just saw one of those on my raspberry patch here in San Jose. Guess I should have squashed it...

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 1:41AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Corn rootworm are the larvae stage of cucumber beetles so if you have cucumber beetles and corn planted then you may have corn rootworms.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 2:37PM
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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

Warm season crops will grow much better if you can maintain a minimum of 60F soil temperature. But you don't need to do it all courtesy of your electric bill. A black soil surface, black plastic or weed barrier alone or combined with clear poly over black will also heat the soil.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 2:01PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Totally agree with Dave.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2013 at 3:01PM
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jpyarb

Ok, thanks for the input. That's kinda what I was thinking!

    Bookmark     May 19, 2013 at 1:52PM
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