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grandad_2003(9A/sunset 28)

Farmerbill1952, your 1015 onions are short day onions. In my zone 9a we plant these in December. You are are one zone up. My guess your issues are mostly related to timing - not sure what is the proper planting month for area...

This post was edited by grandad on Mon, Apr 15, 13 at 9:37

    Bookmark   April 15, 2013 at 9:35AM
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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

Right. Your error was in timing. Onions are usually the very last thing that I plant in my fall/winter garden. They grow green onion tops all winter and into spring and then begin to bulb in April or so. Depending on the type, they are ready for harvest in May or June.
It is not recommended that you add nitrogen fertilizer to them once they start the bulbing process.
If you go to the Southern Exposure Seed Exchange Website, they have a very detailed and informative tutorial on growing onions. Check it out.There is also an Allium Forum here on Gardenweb. Those folks really know their stuff, including the ones who responded here.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2013 at 3:26PM
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jonfrum(6)

It's a little early for squash if you're in Massachusetts. Once the weather warms up, they'll grow fine, and they stay on the ground,so you don't have to worry about them being leggy like tomatoes that have to stand up.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2013 at 2:22PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

24L x 18.38W x 15.75H"

Ok I'm guessing that is feet not inches? Hard to imagine a compost bin that would be only 2 feet long and 18" wide. That would be a really tiny, microscopic compost bin.

But just in case that would hold 1 plant only and it would be hanging over the sides. How much would depend on the variety as not all zucchini plants are the same.

See the discussion further down the page about growing yellow crookneck in pots. Same thing applies.

Dave

    Bookmark   April 15, 2013 at 10:05AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yes you can.. Be sure to plant them close to each other for pollination.

Dave

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 10:18PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Thank you! Will do! Nancy

    Bookmark   April 15, 2013 at 9:38AM
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gjcore(zone 5 Aurora Co)

I use rolled fencing, maybe it's 1.5 inches by 3 Inches rectangles, and a staple gun.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2013 at 7:22PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Awesome, thank you for all the suggestions!

    Bookmark   April 15, 2013 at 12:29AM
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nialialea

Has it been colder or wetter than usual? A lot of my stuff seemed to take a while to take off this year.

Could you try getting more and different types of compost? I think Sq Ft gardening recommends 5, at least, for optimal results.

I would buy some Miracle Grow and try it on a single plant, just to see if that made a difference. I know composting won't help much this year, but a soil test would help you rule out a lot of issues.

I know that's not much help, but at least it could give you an idea of if the potential is there. I mean, you don't know what's been dumped on there in the last eight years. Or what was in the compost you bought. I'm getting read to buy a bunch so I can sympathize!

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 9:50PM
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chickenfreak(7)

On the one hand, nine bags of composted manure in that much garden space isn't a lot. On the other hand, it's not as if soil is a blank slate without amendments, plus you're adding other fertilizer. So I don't think that your seedling issues are likely to be due to soil fertility issues.

I would lean toward other possibilities, like the suggestion that perhaps it's been colder or wetter (or warmer or dryer) this year than it was for your other garden. Is this new area just as sunny? Higher? Lower? Better drained? Swampy? Are you planting at the same time as last year?

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 10:03PM
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mandolls(4)

Warmth makes a big difference for both basil and peppers.

Also - did you purchase the seed this year? I have some genovese basil seed that germinated ok the first year - hardly at all the second year and nothing the third year. You may need fresh seed.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 3:02PM
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zzackey(8b GA)

Don't plant them very deep. Maybe just put them on top of the soil and let the water bury them. That worked well with tomato seeds.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 9:05PM
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nialialea

I used this yesterday for lettuce. Just sprinkled tp squares with water and spaced the seeds out, wetting as needed. I planted each square immediately, so I didn't worry about glue or drying.

The dark seeds were a LOT easier to space against the white paper. Light seeds were still easier than broadcasting.

Will know how it worked, assuming my seeds were good, in a few days!

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 4:59PM
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veggiecanner(Id 5/6)

I had the same problem , and i tryed seed tape. But I need alot.
Instead I made a planting stck out of a old hollow mop handle. It has a part that sticks out to one side. I use that part as a measure.
The Stick allows me to plant seeds ever 2 and 4 inches apart, while standing up.
I use a funnel at the top of the tube so it's easy to put the seeds in the tube.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 8:51PM
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hidesertca(8)

I live in Southern California and i've had tomatoes, peppers and cantaloupe all in the ground for the last 2 weeks and they are doing great.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 12:12AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Well that's southern CA!!!! I used to love visiting my in-laws at xmas and taking the kids to the beach! LOL Nancy

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 8:18PM
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sjkly

I'm in 7a, northern Virginia.
And yes, around late July or August I lose some plants.
I am okay with that because I don't have a lot of options-I am somewhat disabled, can't really do an inground garden but have tons of space on my huge deck to do some container gardening.
Seeds are cheap, it's easy to have replacement plants to replace the ones I lose so I do things that may not be ideal.

So, it depends on your goals-if your goal is to get a few servings of squash a week and you are willing to lose a few plants, have some back ups etc you can grow just about anything in containers.

I would rather plant a lot of plants and lose some then not have a garden at all so I do what I can.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 5:04PM
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NilaJones(7b)

The big rubbermaid-type storage containers make great garden pots. Get a drill bit that makes a hole at least 1/2" in diameter (1" is better). Or stab their bottoms with a strong knife and twist it, depending on what your disability allows :). You want holes you can put your finger through, maybe 6 in the bottom of each pot.

If you don't mind the look, get some kids' wading pools and put the pots in them (before you fill with soil). Bottom watering is much, much, much better for plants and productivity. Add some BT grains to keep mosquitoes from breeding, fill pots with half compost and half whatever (potting soil, peat, coir, coconut, sand....) and Bob's your uncle.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 7:38PM
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sleepyjen

I really like your trellis, Mandolis--how deeply do you bury it in the garden? How tall is it at its height? Thanks!

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 4:00PM
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ChicagoDeli37

Helped a friend today build his. If you look close there's green string

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 5:59PM
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veggiecanner(Id 5/6)

Turn the soil in the box every few days to help the birds get them. hand pick them.
They are usually only bad the first year, they will disapear as you build soil fertility.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2013 at 1:37PM
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thirsty_dirt_77(3a)

Depending on the grubs you have they can be devastating to your root crops.

In the past we have had a slight grub problem and they liked to eat into our potatoes making them impossible to store.

If you contact Natural Insect Control (they're in Stevensville, ON)

http://www.natural-insect-control.com

they will help identify your pest and provide advice on how to help with your problem.

Good Luck!

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 5:12PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

This is a photo I took today of mint that I have planted in a bottomless pot. This is a 2 year old chocolate mint that is just starting to grow this Spring (my other mint varieties are slowly beginning to wake up). As you can see there are no sprouts outside of the pot.

I'll admit that the bottomless pot method may not work for everyone but it works for me. I also harvest them heavily during the growing season so maybe that factors into it as well.

Rodney

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 3:17PM
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nialialea

I have my mints in a new landscape bed, in pockets of potting soil in a sea of mulch (literally, the entire end of the bed is filled, six inches deep, with pine mulch over grass). They seem well-behaved, but now I'm suspicious of what they're doing under there.

This post was edited by nialialea on Sun, Apr 14, 13 at 21:35

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 5:06PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

The site you found (clickable link below) is excellent. I use it as a source of info for starting seeds indoors. By using optimum temperatures germination can be very quick, two or three days in some cases.

I think you are wise to not rush planting seeds outdoors, except the ones, such as peas and spinach, which like lower temperatures.

Jim

Here is a link that might be useful: Germination Temperatures

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 12:00PM
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ltilton

One of my favorite charts. To check soil temps, a digital meat thermometer is excellent.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 2:23PM
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Raw_Nature(5 OH)

On another note, if you see signs of life(earthworms,spiders,insects,etc), it is probably OK to use without to much of a concern... What do you plan on doing with the clippings? Compost will probably further break down any herbicides etc, making it less of a concern.. Whereas mulching with it is more of a concern... How much clipping are there? Is it really worth the risk?

    Bookmark   April 12, 2013 at 10:15AM
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rossello44(6)

As I mentioned earlier they have been piled since last year. In a few days I am going to spread them on my garden and then till and mix them with the soil. my neighbor already assured me that he uses only turf builder so I don;t have to worry that te clippings will kill my plants. Thanks to all for shining some light to this matter.
Frank

    Bookmark   April 13, 2013 at 11:30PM
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