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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I don't think it's the temps. Cool temps usually make sturdy plants. What's that mix you are using? Looks like pure peat. maybe too low pH? I'm just grasping at straws.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 8:29PM
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ltilton

No, it's mix, not pure peat. And I've used it for everything this year, nothing but the tomatoes have problems.

Looking thru the tomato forum, I notice that some people are claiming purple on stems is a sign of chilling. It's the only clue I can find.

What really boggles me is that the pepper seedlings are just fine - in the same mix in the same flat in the same location.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 10:23PM
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mctiggs(2b (WPG, MB))

Probably that van exhaust is stunting their growth. Ha.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 11:35AM
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foolishpleasure

Probably that van exhaust is stunting their growth. Ha.
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VERY FUNNY. I USE ETHANOL FO FUEL NO EXHAUST

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 10:14PM
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annew21(7b NC)

I don't know what it is, but it isn't flea beetles.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 7:48PM
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zzackey(8b GA)

Maybe red spider mites under the leaves? They are microscopic. You will need a loop or a magnifying glass to see them. I don't what was nibbling on it.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 8:34PM
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weirdtrev

I was at a local home depot that had quart size blueberries for $4 each, didn't note the variety as I was on the hunt for fig trees.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 3:31PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Yeah, I screwed up......thought I was on the other forum. I need lots of help! Disregard.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 8:31PM
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ceth_k(11)

The minimum requirement for growing corn is 6 hours direct sunlight, more or less.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 10:58PM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

The goodnews is the sunlight minimum is easily met. I will have to think long and hard if it is worth the water in this drought to try to do the 10 seeds if I have to hand pollinate. His co-worker may have an extra packet which might get us closer to 20 plants but our drought is expected to continue this year and the temperatures are predicted to be much warmer than usual as well.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 1:20PM
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Creek-side(5)

A few years ago I used some old ones that were laying around for a few tomatoes, and they were the only tomatoes I have every grown which did not do well. They kind of stopped growing and looked sort of yellow and sickly.But I am trying a few for cucumbers this year.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 6:29AM
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gardennewbie420

I noticed that the trays are constantly dry.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 1:08PM
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ltilton

Have you been cutting down the dead ferns in the fall? That's the traditional time to do it and attack the weeds at the same time.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 12:15PM
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rjinga

Yes, our landscaping guy ran over the dead ferns this fall, but not completely to the ground. so now there are dead weeds and new weeds growing amongst them. I'm going to try to water it really well and attempt to pull the weeds out.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 12:27PM
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mandolls(4)

Thats not a patch - thats a field!

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 7:24AM
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veggiecanner(Id 5/6)

Yes you will, it might not be huge and it might not be divided. But you can use it or divide it and replant it in the fall for next year.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 12:05PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Very nice! Kind of looks a like tomato plant prison :-)

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 12:35AM
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weirdtrev

I don't think that will do much of anything, they will just grow through that unless you make an effort to keep them separate. The only way to ensure they won't grow together is to space them further apart than you did last year.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2013 at 8:40AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yep what Jon said. I tend to forget that "wet" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.

And if you are going to be adding anything to it now is the time to do it rather than after planting.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 4:48PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Yes, grad.....you'll need to water it and then stir it. It doesn't need to be saturated, but the moisture needs to be distributed well. You don't need to be afraid of getting it moist....it's not my favorite medium but it coarse enough maintain structure when moist.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 9:57PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Yes, go ahead and plant them. No problem. If they are already growing without soil, just think what they'll do when you plant them!

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 6:27PM
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weirdtrev

Those dates are recommendations. A week doesn't matter at all, go ahead and plant. There are very few things in gardening that aren't flexible.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 3:43PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree that those dates are just recommendations. They mean do not plant before but anytime after is fine.

Please include your location or at least your gardening zone in any posts or replies. Your location makes a BIG difference in the information we supply to you.

For example, in much of the country this year normal last frost dates aren't valid as frosts are coming as much as 2-3 weeks late. So be sure to check your long term weather forecast before planting.

For future reference, it is your soil temp that best determines when seeds should be planted, not some artificial dates on a calendar. So learn to measure and monitor your soil temps.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 4:22PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

I think flat collars would be easier to fit than cups. You can buy them ready made or make your own. Google cabbage root fly collars.

Here is a link that might be useful: Root fly collars

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 4:03PM
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veggiecanner(Id 5/6)

I think they used to tar paper
A sprinkle of wood ases might work also

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 4:09PM
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ChicagoDeli37

After having the plastic on overnight , its 11:00 am i just took the plastic off, the soil in these seems to be colder the ones not covered.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 12:12PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

I wouldn't go through all that trouble. Besides keeping the soul moist, the seeds will germinate when conditions are right for them to do so.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 3:41PM
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pnbrown

Yes, quite possible they were eaten.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 11:18AM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Jerusalem artichokes are quite late to show here. Mine are not yet up. BTW 'germinated' applies to seed, tubers just 'come up' or 'sprout' ;-)

If the old stems are visible you could dig carefully down a bit next to one and see if there is any sign of growth.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 12:29PM
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