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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

The idea of the treatment is to preserve the wood. If the wood is still pretty well preserved, I think you have to assume that the treatment chemicals are still in it. I assume you're talking about pressure-treated lumber? If the wood is a few decades old, it might have been CCA treated, and that stuff was pretty nasty. If the only treatment was ten year old stain, it's probably OK to use now for gardening.

    Bookmark     March 17, 2015 at 6:26PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

Advice is to plant peas as soon as soil can be worked. Still frozen doesn't quite qualify I don't think. ;-) I only grow edible podded peas which are a bit more prone to rotting in cool soil, so I always presprout mine. I soak for several hours until they swell and then place in lightly damp paper towels until I just see roots starting. Then I plant out and get good growth - it seems to take care of the rotting issue. A good resource is Johnny's Select Seeds - for every vegetable they give an optimal germination temperature chart (scroll down to the top of the "growing information" section.)

    Bookmark     March 17, 2015 at 7:01AM
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drscottr(7)

Pre-sprouting makes sense. I've only grown snap peas the past few years as well.

The top 3 - 4 inches were very workable. I suspect I'll plant more in a few days if we get another decent window of weather.

Thanks

    Bookmark     March 17, 2015 at 4:53PM
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Plastic hardware clothHow easily can critters chew through it?
Posted by hairmetal4ever(Z7 MD) March 4, 2015
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

Animals are less likely to chew their way into an enclosure, since it will offer few escape routes. A fence, with open sky above it, is another matter. This year, though, I had a deer jump my 6-foot garden fence for the first time. It landed, saw that it was fenced in, and beat itself against the fence trying to get back out. After 4 tries, it escaped... without eating a thing.

    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 9:57PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

If plastic hardware cloth is strongly discouraged for protecting birds in aviaries from carnivores (by folks who are expert at that stuff), seems to me the same has to apply to protecting vegetables. Animals will chew their way into an enclosure if there is good stuff to eat there. Frankly, I suspect rodents are pretty clueless in thinking about how enclosed they will be. I'm here, the food I want is there. Chewable plastic in between. That's the equation they're solving. I've put chicken wire fencing around veggies, and squirrels burrow under it to get in to get those veggies. They get in and gorge. Yes, they're sorta enclosed, but there was a way in, and that's the way out.

    Bookmark     March 17, 2015 at 4:47PM
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weirdtrev

Why do you say that relocating them is killing them? I've not heard that before, though I have also never tried to relocate any.

    Bookmark     March 17, 2015 at 11:43AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Studies have shown that relocation of rodents to random sites more than half the time results in their death. At least partly because they are very territorial, and partly because of restricted food supply. What I do, however, is relocate in the spring, when edibles reemerge, and well before they start putting away food for the winter. I also relocate in very similar (for me, riparian) habitat. FWIW, squirrels are reared (and kicked out of the nest) in early spring, which is often why recolonization happens around then.

    Bookmark     March 17, 2015 at 12:06PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

With a garden of that size, an electric fence sounds like the most cost-effective option. In my rural garden, I use a hybrid fence of electric fencing high, and chicken wire low. The wire not only keeps out the deer, it keeps the racoons out of my corn. To make an entryway, I just tie pieces of twine between two poles with quick-release knots... the deer could come through there, but once bitten by the fence, they don't seem to know the difference between wire & string.

But like almost any other method of animal deterrent, an electric fence is most effective when used proactively, to keep them out before they learn what's on the other side. If the animals know that something they like is inside, they will find a way through... so putting up a fence after damage has begun is less likely to discourage them.

    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 3:39PM
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noinwi

"Those are some weird deer that eat squash and not tomatoes. I guess maybe there are regional tastes in deer?"
Mama deer teaches her babies to eat what she has developed a taste for.

    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 7:07PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Sure looks like multiplying onions to me. Here is a good article on How to Grow them. They just need feeding now and then, keep them watered, harvest a few from each bunch 2-3 times a year as needed. If you want them to expand faster transplant a few as you have done. Mulch them well in the fall for some winter protection.

http://www.gardeningblog.net/how-to-grow/multiplier-onions/

    Bookmark     March 14, 2015 at 7:40PM
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pnbrown

There are many cultivars of "multiplyers". Knowing your climate and zone would help.

    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 5:08PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Several things can make radishes more or less hot. How much water they get, how fast they grow, the temps they're grown in, and most importantly the variety. I grew Long Black Spanish for the first time last year and holy geez those things were hot and it didn't matter what time of the year I grew/harvested them.

Rodney

    Bookmark     March 15, 2015 at 1:28PM
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pnbrown

The reason a lot of N sometimes results in small roots/tubers is because it causes reduced availability of K - which is what is required for large root and tuber crops. OTOH, if K is low to start with failing to supply the crop with N is not going to help.

    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 5:05PM
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jenandwya

I have 6 rows, each are 3X13 ft. One row has a wire tunnel over it for cukes to vine on one side and green beans to vine on the other. Will put corn, tomatoes, zukes and squash, carrots dispersed properly over the other rows. raspberry and blackberry bushes in the corner. And a bag of compost/worm castings to throw off to the side and stick some watermelon seedlings in there to vine out away from my rows. Have 2, 1x13 ft beds off to the side for wildflowers to feed the honey bees so they will pollinate my garden. No raised beds. Have a, 18 ft lettuce bed with radishes in it as well. And a little 4 ft herb bed

    Bookmark     March 9, 2015 at 7:41AM
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charlieboring

I do not have a lot of room, so I use something called "edible landscap

ing." I have landscaping around 3 sides of my house where I have a variety of flowering shrubs and flowers. Among the landscape plants on the south side, I have planted bush cherries, a blackberry bush, a pomegranite bush and a strawberry patch. In the spring I intend to add 3 cranberry bushes and some tomatoes and eggplants. In front of the house I have interspersed herbs among the flowering shrubs and flowers. On the northside of the house I plant tomatoes, eggplant and peppers among the flowering shrubs and flowers. In front I also have a Japanese persimmon tree and a cherry tree. In the backyard I have a plum, 2 asian pears, 2 paw paws, 2 jujubes, an apricot and 3 fig trees. A also have a blueberry, 2 raspberry and a blackberry bush. I have a trellis on which I run 3 hardy kiwi vines and a pergola on which I run 3 fuzzy kiwi vines. For additional garden plants I have a 10'X20' garden plot where I plant beans, greens, parsley, garlic, leeks and tomatoes. I also have a raised garden where I have 2 gojiberry bushes and I am planting artichokes, radishes and carrots. Finally, I have 2 honeyberry bushes. Here are some pictures.

1 Like    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 8:53AM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

Ditto on a reduction in watering, which would be my first guess on the cause. However, as the plants age, there will naturally be some leaf die-back on the lower leaves. Your plants are still producing, as long as the new leaves & fruits look healthy, there is probably no need for concern. Given the size of the container, it's possible a light application of fertilizer might be necessary, but I would not do so until the plants stop bearing.

For good California gardening references, I would add the Sunset New Western Garden Book. They are up to their 9th edition now (I still have the 4th from when I lived in California in the 80's). It is a very comprehensive garden book, it was of enormous help to me when I gardened in San Diego and Pala Alto.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2014 at 4:13PM
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gaynor42

My leaves (the older) look like they have powdery mildew and at one point I did have white fly which I sprayed naturally but it still kept the bees away. Now I have a plant that is producing what looks like great fruit (and a conjoined) but most have just shrivelled, turned brown and well that's it

This is my first time trying to grow cucumbers but some how everything else I have grown from seed is doing fantastic... I'm losing friends off handing the stuff!

Why the heck are the cucumbers being so god dang awful to grow! There are heaps of flowers although I admit not many male when I last looked. What the heck am I doing wrong??? Oh and it is grown in a large wooden container with struts for growth.

Any help before the season here in Australia finishes would be so welcome and thank you in advance for the help.

    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 5:36AM
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dirtguy50 SW MO z6a(6a)

I use the one from Territorial Seeds which is $25.00 a year if you renew after the 30 day free trial. It is worth it to me to make notes to review what happen in the previous years. I have been using it for 3 years now and think it is worth every penny.

    Bookmark     March 14, 2015 at 11:45AM
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You can find some tutorials on the Internet and it will be much more cheaper.

www.krosagro.pl

    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 12:45AM
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jeanwedding(6 ky)

Ky Derby, first Saturday in May.....yeah rain finally stoppped this afternoon hope to get asp planted soon and can cover with straw.....

thank yall

    Bookmark     March 14, 2015 at 8:19PM
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Originally asparagus grew in swamps or wet places, so maintaining consistent soil moisture is very important for good production.

www.krosagro.pl

    Bookmark     March 16, 2015 at 12:41AM
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zzackey(8b GA)

Around here most people plant on March 1st. They start extras in case of a late frost. We didn't get a late frost this year so they won.

    Bookmark     March 15, 2015 at 8:19AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

I don't have a soil thermometer, but we've had temps well into the 70swith a few exceptions for several weeks (If you HAVE to have a drought, at least have beautiful weather!). It's been close to 80 the last few days. Planting most things tomorrow. Nancy

    Bookmark     March 15, 2015 at 5:48PM
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zzackey(8b GA)

It only costs 7 bucks per test in Florida and they recommend what to use to amend your soil. You could get 7 soil tests for 49 bucks. Hopefully WVa doesn't charge more than that.

    Bookmark     March 15, 2015 at 8:16AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

<thanks but got to many diff places to test here....>

Is this your native soil? If so then there won't be much difference from one place to the next? Doesn't happen that way. If they are all growing on your property in native soil then they will all be within the same very narrow margin and one soil test made up of several selected samples is all that is needed. And keep in mind that pH changing, if it is needed, doesn't happen over night anyway so trying to amend many locations would be a major chore. If you want to grow blueberries and if your soil is too alkaline it would be better to "create" a specific location for them made up of trucked in acidic soil.

But if that isn't enough for you then a simple $25-50 soil test meter is all that is needed.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 15, 2015 at 10:37AM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

No. Years back, I grew a naked-seeded pumpkin (Streaker Jack) that was impure; one of the plants turned out to have hulled seed. I had (unknowingly) used male flowers from the hulled plant to hand pollinate some of the others in the row, and when harvested, the seed from those plants was still hull-less. Since I liked the quality of the good seed, I wanted to try growing it again... but the vendor had dropped it, probably due to other complaints. :-(

I've grown Kakai as part of a 4-variety trial of hull-less pumpkins, and the seed was large & high quality. The yield was somewhat temperamental, though, and it had problems with seed sprouting inside. If you grow it, I would recommend opening the pumpkins as soon as possible after they are fully ripe.

There is another hull-less variety that I received in trade several years ago that has a high yield & does not sprout, but it also had a hulled impurity... I hope to select a pure hull-less strain from it in a few years.

    Bookmark     March 14, 2015 at 10:30PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Duplicate post. Here is a link to your post of this same question last week.

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/2900704/where-is-the-best-place-to-order-cucumber-seed

1 Like    Bookmark     March 14, 2015 at 7:33PM
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