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defrost49

There's not much activity in it but there's one guy who has a lot of experience who might answer. I've actually found the high tunnel great for tomatoes in summer. They didn't get the diseases the ones outside did. Sides are rolled up but they don't get rained on.

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qbush(6, NE MA)

Do you mulch them inside tunnel? I had problems with blight last year, and am experimenting with a few in my UGH (unheated greenhouse) .

Pulled a few Napoli and Cordoba to thin and check, yep they are making carrots! Oops I saw carrot rust fly on 2nd planting, have to dig up the sugar and coffee ...

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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

would be cutting it close but I feel you will be good, Start from seeds and don't forget to spray.

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bcomplx(z6VA)

I have been growing Little Leaf for so long that I have almost forgotten what bacterial wilt looks like. Its resistance is that good.

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N Larson (Z7 SE Penna)

I'm on the eastern end of your storms and seeing the same sort of problems. Despite gardening with raised rows. The beets and salad greens did beautifully and I've made three cuttings of basil already. I am having similar problems with peppers at the moment and a few of the heirloom tomatoes look like they are headed for an early blight. Keep the faith. You know what August in Pennsylvania is like.....

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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

Here in central PA I have been lucky so far as everything is looking good except the 1 zucchini plant I lost, but only time will tell.

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glib(5.5)

If you have buried leaves or other OM in the bed the prior fall, they will have their preferred food.

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livelydirt(Zn 4, Lively, ON)

Lots of OM in soil. I believe they still need/like to eat on surface. The top image is the one with the flagpole in the hole bottom image is of a large leaf partly twisted into the hole these guys are industrious

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chigardenlady(5b)

I just picked a huge head of cabbage and had to cut off half of the head cuz each layer had ear wigs and slugs in it.

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chigardenlady(5b)

Next year I don't want many things in the ground. Probably only tomatoes because they aren't bothered too much by pests. I have one tiny little baby tomatoe only. Guess what it is about to rain some more! I got my sweet potato slips yesterday, from sandhill don't look great darn near nothing I ordered. I planted them in the 25 and 30 root pouches. The soil in the pots wasn't even very warm. Chicago isn't my favorite place for gardening.I am ready to move to a warmer zone. One that has seasons besides just winter and spring. So many gardening challenges.

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illiveggies

Guess it depends on the raised bed and available drainage. I built mine with 1x6 stacked above each other, and if it really rains very hard, I can see water seeping out of the joint. If the rain is not ver hard, then it drains out of the bottom. We have officially had the wettest June ever in Illinois, and my raised beds did fine. My community garden plot on the other hand...

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glib(5.5)

This is the one year that tells me it was a good idea to make every bed raised (I use 4" cinder blocks). Even if the bed soil is 2 inches above the path, it makes a huge difference (most beds are 4 to 6 inches above, though, and the bean beds 8 inches). A gentle slope across the garden, with paths running along the slope, also help.

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illiveggies

I built a tool that looks at daily temps and soil temps during planting till harvest and spits out what plants will work, based on zip code. Currently does not let you specify a date in the future, but assumes today as the start date. You can check it out at http://www.edenpatch.com/weather

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bcomplx(z6VA)

GrowVeg software will let you key in your own start and finish dates and take extensive notes. It's based on USDA frost date data.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yep, mice will do anything to get to them and usually have easy access into a GH.

Dave

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grandad_2003(9A/sunset 28)

Concur. Mice.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yeah birds have very few taste buds. It won't faze them at all.

Dave

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livelydirt(Zn 4, Lively, ON)

This worked in my small planting, and will probably work in yours, but the scale of the effort may be too much. I covered my seed bed area with my cleaned out raspberry canes, and at the appropriate time, removed the canes and then use them to polish out the inside of my shredder after processing wet compost.

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gumby_ct(CT it says Z5)

It's not a weed IF you have a use for it.
Ironic how we want to remove native plants that grow easily w/o care AND are healthy to eat then want to plant things that don't want to grow where we are; even with mucho care and nurturing.

IF you find something else eating it you will know you have a woodchuck.

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grubby_AZ Tucson Z9

It grows all over the place here, especially now that the summer rains have started, yet people still buy it in the grocery store as "verdolaga". Same stuff.

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elisa_z5

For me it is like supplementing your diet with some good quality supplements.

I picked up my bag of Azomite from the guy who runs the company, and he eats the stuff :)

In terms of application, he recommended adding it to the soil, especially at the root zone. He does a lot of work in developing countries and there, he says, they have someone coming along with a teaspoon putting it into the planting hole so they don't waste it. Either they are ripping off nearly starving people, or they are revitalizing the soil of subsistence farmers and improving their health and well being. Obviously, this guy believes they are doing the latter and is very passionate about it.

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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Passion from people selling something can be viewed in several ways. As I said, Azomite is pretty pricey, so I guess the sales people have to be pretty passionate to sell it.

Look, this is probably just a another garden example of what is called the "vitamin myth". That's where people pill themselves with loads of "nutritional supplements" (and good quality ones!) because those supplements are chemicals that humans are understood to need to live. As in vitamins A,B,C,D, etc. But most people get plenty of those vitamins in a normal diet. The myth is that if those vitamins are required, then the more the better. That's the myth. It's not true. Humans will simply excrete the excess. Money down the drain. But the fact that these vitamins are "required" tends to obscure the fact that we probably already get enough.

The way to avoid such mythology is to get your soil tested and establish what your soil really needs. Otherwise adding such supplements is just a shot in the dark, and risks toxicity from having excess, as Dave noted. If your soil really needs it, and you find that it works when you use it, that's important information for everyone. Or do as suggested above, and use this stuff on half your bed. See if it works for you on that half. That's a "soil test" that takes a long time, but doesn't really do anyone else any good.

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elisa_z5

Thank you, rgreen -- that's a great explanation as to the "why" of what I had observed as greater production the more I cut.

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sleevendog (5a NY)(5a NY)

It is a good question. And good compact answers above.

I have alway harvest with that in mind. For a fresh salad, i pick a very small leaf or two from a few dozen plants, chards, kales. For a sautéed meal of greens i pick larger leaves. One or two from each plant leaving some of both sizes alone. I resist picking at all too early until established.

I also think of it as a 'come again' crop in my climate. Harvesting all season.

I've never thought of it as a better crop waiting. I like to have it available when i want it. If it does do better to wait, it does not serve my table as well to have a load all at once.

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skyblue52(5)

Hello I presprouted and got out May 1st. I am ahead . I wanted to make this my green bean canning year. I am tring to get the most of my garden.

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elisa_z5

Good for you! Looks like you're off to a great start.

Did you cover for frost in May? I know there are no two zone 5's alike, but we got lots of frost in May. I'd love to get green beans earlier, maybe a job for AG 19 fleece?

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