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sleevendog (5a NY)(5a NY)

You are correct lacyvail! I was racking my brain why i purchased plants a few years ago...but a few things are always on that 'buy' list. Often it is a difficult to start perennial. Rosemary i always do cuttings. My local mountaintop garden center is terrific and a 2 min drive so i have a few things that are difficult that i rely on them do do the deed and dirty work.

info here Chris...

http://www.territorialseed.com/product/French_Tarragon_Plant/herb_plants

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donna_in_sask(2b)

As mentioned, you need to get a started plant, not seed, for French tarragon. I have a friend who grows it in her garden and it overwinters in zone 2b, so hardier than it states.

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jnjfarm_gw(5a)

buckwheat is a summertime cover crop that I use for weed suppression for 4 week period. it doesn't like cold weather. I am in zone 5 and my winter cover crop is annual rye or cereal rye with tillage radishes or turnips mixed in. you are in zone 7 but I bet it is still to cold for buckwheat

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FADiver (7B, eastern Virginia)

Thanks, everyone... These are all great suggestions. Today I made some zucchini fritters and also zucchini bread (though, really, some of these zucchini bread recipes should be called "sugar bread with a pinch of zucchini").

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laceyvail(6A, WV)

I have never understood the point of trying to eat overgrown and tasteless zucchini when the plant produces so many fruit so fast. Feed the giants to the compost heap and wait two minutes for some young tender ones.

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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Runners will regrow from lower buds if the tops are broken off. They twine by their stems so the best support is something straight and single like strings, poles or bamboos rather than net or trellis. Can you post a picture of the damage? Snails love young runner plants.

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sleevendog (5a NY)(5a NY)

Beans prefer to climb on something a bit more flexible. I use a jute twine that can be compost end of season during clean-up.

But i know what you mean. If they grab hold to something stiff, like chicken wire, when young shoots, the plant continues to grow, bend, and break.

I have chicken wire on frames as cages surrounding my peas and beans that are trellised. Some shoots will reach out and hold onto the cages but i coax them off and give them the proper twine to climb.

-at least i think i know what you mean. : )

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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Water after transplant once and thoroughly. Then watch and wait.

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tcstoehr(8b Canby, OR)

Do not assume the ants are not at fault. They may or may not be. I agree that they are attracted by the sweet nectar, but they may do some severe damage at the same time. People will insist that ants are never a problem until it happens to them. Monitor the blossoms that are visited by ants and those that are not. If the anty blossoms fail to set and the antless ones succeed, I would suspect the ants are causing an issue with their chewing. Otherwise it's a non-issue.

Danzeb, did you take that picture in your garden? What is that ant doing? What is it carrying away?

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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Are you in a location where fire ants are a common nuisance in the garden? They will chew through nectaries to get to the good stuff.

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runswithscissors(MT 4/5)

I'm bringing this thread back to the top because I wanted to give an update.

I think you guys are right. The trick is germinating them in peat moss. (Perhaps there is some sort of chemical reaction or microbial reaction that aids the process.) I took the seeds that had been in paper towels (not sprouting) and shoved them into cell packs with peat moss and put them back on the heat mat. Within a couple of weeks they were all sprouted.

Still have not tried the dog-do-do-method yet...but plan to.

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jctsai8b(8B)

My snake gourd not to germinate well, I used paper tower method,

only got 4 germinated, 1 dead because I did not water enough when it was young, the other 3 growing pretty well, seems no need to have pest control,

long squash no need to have pest control either.

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Suzi AKA DesertDance So CA Zone 9b

Drought restrictions are in place here. We can only water 3 x per week, other than trees, plants have 1/2 - 1 gallon emitters that are on for 45 minutes starting at 5 AM.

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glib(5.5)

I sympathize with the OP since CA conditions are different from our Midwest. Yes, with sandy soil (2 inches of compost do not change anything, you need one foot plus to start having a bit of loam) mulch is less useful, since losses are mostly from below, and I would recommend daily watering or every second day at the most. Still, at such a site I would mulch heavily, to eventually get some OM in the soil and improve water absorption. It will still help with evaporation and improve surface roots. In fact, I would rent an excavator and make low hugelkultur beds.

I know that at my previous site, which was pure sand, watering with drip every two days was normal, and this was wet Michigan. One hour after watering, the soil was dry, and the soil 5 inches from an emitter was dry regardless. The soil there, I had to excavate around the house to do a foundation job, was bone dry to 8 feet in midsummer, so these ideas that the root need to be developed do not work in very sandy soils. I can not give further advice without knowing the plants involved, the density of planting and the density of drip.

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sleevendog (5a NY)(5a NY)

Be patient. I will not see full husks till mid-late August.

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Marianne W (zone 10A)

Be patient! They take a while to fill in.

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gumby_ct(CT it says Z5)

Mark your calendar for Sunday, June 28, 2015 from 12:30 p.m. until 5:00 p.m

If you live in CT it is worth the trip.

The new website is here http://www.bethelgardenfair.org/

They have an all new and very impressive "Demonstration Garden" you can get some ideas from. More info at the website.

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gumby_ct(CT it says Z5)

The fair is today.... don't be late.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Not enough info Carolyn, sorry. Variety name? Container or in ground? Direct seeded or transplants? Time of the year planted? What nutrients? etc. Need to know much more about the growing conditions you provide.

"Leaves and stems turn white" doesn't ring a bell except that many varieties of zucchini normally have a silvery pattern to their leaves like this one does . But not the stems.

Then there is a disease called powdery mildew that can turn the leaves white and can kill the plants if it isn't treated but it doesn't stunted the zucchini themselves, only lack of pollination does that.

A photo and many more details would be helpful.

Dave

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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

That's an important point about male and female flowers. Squash and cukes will start out producing only the former, because they are easier for the plant to make, and they'll attract pollinators to the bed. Once that attraction is done, the plants start spitting out females as well. If you have both, but no fruit, you might try some hand pollination. You may not have insect pollinators around. Hand pollination is a little laborious with the small cuke flowers, but should be really easy to do with the squash.

Now, some cuke hybrids are gynoecious, in that males don't happen on the plant. Seed packages of such cukes usually have dye-marked monoecious seeds that offer those males. I think those gynoecious hybrids are supposed to be able to fruit by themselves (producing seedless fruit), but I'm not aware that it really works that well.

I'd be careful about fertilizing. There is no "magic sauce" for fruiting, unless the soil is recognizably deficient in something. If this is your first year gardening, you'd do well to get a soil test, or see what your neighbors got when they did it. If you had a potassium deficiency, you'd probably see leaf-cupping on older leaves and leaf scorching. Such deficiency is more common in acid soils. Too much potassium will encourage foliage development, like for nitrogen excess.

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lgteacher(SCal zone 9b)

Some fruit bearing depends on temperature, and there's nothing we can do about that. Be patient. Like a previous poster said, the first squash flowers are usually male. Female flowers will show up later. My cucumber is producing like crazy, but the early season flowers just fell off.

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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Dave gave excellent advice above, and I don't need to repeat it. But I want to call attention to the phrase "soil is poor". There are MANY ways soil can be poorly suited to vegetable gardening, and many of those are ways that fertilizer simply doesn't fix. Your soil can be clay or, as I think you say about yours, sandy. That is, it may drain poorly or too well. That's fixed by adding organic matter like compost. Lots of it. It may be poisoned with something like salt, if you're on a coastal plain. That's harder to fix, but there are plants that will tolerate it to some extent. Your "poor" soil may well not be deficient in any chemical nutrients, and if you can't point to specific symptoms of nutrient deficiency in plants, the only way to tell is with a lab analysis.

BTW, bottom yellowing leaves on tomatoes can also be just early blight, which is very manageable, and unrelated to soil nutrients. It could be related to daily watering.

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vgkg(Z-7)

Another vote here for Espoma Garden Tone for fert. Short & long term - Homemade compost would be a plus for your sandy soil too, it takes time but will help with added organic nutrients and for retaining moisture for sandy soils.

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This bean seedling spilt in the middle, normal?
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

I would call it an anomoly. Those whacky plants do unexpected things all the time.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree it is not 'normal' but fused stems (fasciation) also isn't uncommon. Not an issue for the plant.

Dave

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