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pnbrown

I have lost potato onion sets to freezing in two attempts here in z7. I would suggest put the flat outside and cover it with a foot or so of leaves or hay, uncover and plant out in early spring.

    Bookmark     November 28, 2014 at 8:37AM
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Farmington

Thank's Ken. I have one brussel sprout and all the leaves are totally with holes like they bombed Nagasaki. Will this plant die? Or i'll just leave them alone and keep looking for the green meanies.?

    Bookmark     November 26, 2014 at 12:24PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Next year cover all your cole crops with row covers as soon as they germinate; if the butterfly can't lay the eggs, you won't get any worms. works great and I've been doing it for years.

    Bookmark     November 27, 2014 at 6:37AM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Snow is not a problem....sub-freezing temperatures are, or cold plus wind. Snow can be a great insulator, as a matter of fact.

    Bookmark     November 27, 2014 at 3:26AM
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elisa_z5

Yep --we eat kale flowers and arugula flowers, mustard too -- really any brassica flowers, stems, buds, seed pods are all very tasty raw in salad or cooked. Nice to know you haven't let the brassicas go to "waste" just because you couldn't get to them before they bolted.

Radishes are also a brassica -- and if you let them bolt (they can get huge) and develop seed pods, the seed pods are quite a delicacy in salads.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2012 at 11:25PM
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Farmington

I have 2 question for chinese kale (gailan)specifically.
(1) it's november fall season I planted chinese kale, they are 4 inches tall and flowers are appearing. Did they BOLT(meaning the end of the growing season for the plant?) or are they part of it as they grow. Anybody please give me an advise.
(2) How do you harvest them properly in order to last until late spring.?

    Bookmark     November 26, 2014 at 11:56AM
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MrClint

I think if I were to branch out from greens with another bag it would be with herbs. Something like parsley or cilantro.

    Bookmark     November 24, 2014 at 10:38PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Herbs like well drained soil in general. But you can experiment.

Try water cress .

Seysonn

    Bookmark     November 26, 2014 at 12:34AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Seems to be a common issue as there have been many posts here this year with pics of lots of crosses. Just no way to know what they are given how easily squash cross.

Dave

    Bookmark     November 24, 2014 at 7:52PM
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weirdtrev

The first picture is definitely a green striped cushaw, not a overly healthy one, but a cushaw all the same. Cushaw are Cucurbita agyrosperma, this species has relatively few varieties compared to the other pumpkins species and interspecific crosses are less common, if possible at all, depending on what species you have growing.

The second picture you posted looks like some form of an unknown cross. Looks like Cucurbita pepo to me though.

    Bookmark     November 25, 2014 at 11:35AM
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shayneca25(8)

To answers your question: The source are other insects, their parents. If you bought your soil it is highly unlikely your soil was infested with insects.

If you dont want any critters in your soil, beneficial or not. There are a couple of things you can do.
1. Put your bed over lawn wire. This also prevents moles and gophers from getting in there.
2. Put a bird bath near your garden and a small bird feeder. But be prepared the birds may choose to eat your vieggies and there are several ways to prevent that.
3. Get diatomaceous earth and follow the directions.

Less than 10% of the bugs you see in your garden are destructive. Identification is crucial. If they just gross you out and prevent you from enjoying your garden, which is the main point to all your work then get rid of them. Just keep in mind no insects at all = more work and less production.

    Bookmark     November 25, 2014 at 8:04AM
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vedabeeps

Beneficial nematodes were really helpful in my garden and milky spore is another option for grub control. Asian beetles are a huge problem here, the University is studying it right now but unfortunately, the traps they are working on have an attractant and they're putting them all over the neighborhoods so more are attracted to the area and find they like gardens better than the traps. What they're after is nice fluffy moist garden soil to lay their eggs in.

The grubs themselves aren't usually a problem but when they reach the numbers that we see in this area (1 to 2 DOZEN per shovel full at times,) they ARE a problem because they kill plants by disrupting the roots. I let them stay in my compost where they are great workers but screen them out before adding it to my beds.

    Bookmark     November 25, 2014 at 10:09AM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

Yes, it is the carrots that most surprised me, I read they tolerate "light frosts".

    Bookmark     November 24, 2014 at 8:29PM
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barrie2m_(6a, central PA)

The problem with peas is that the pods become mottled and unsellable after a freeze so the cited temperature data become mute points. If you want to pick for sales you better protect the crop from freezing temperatures.

    Bookmark     November 25, 2014 at 7:59AM
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ceth_k(11)

I would have to agree with Dave. Every single crop that was listed can easily take up all that space in your garden with just a very small number of the plant, and the garden will be far easier to take care of that way. Two crop types are the maximum for that garden size imho. One annual and one perennial. Or maybe one more annual, top.

This post was edited by ceth_k on Mon, Nov 17, 14 at 7:06

    Bookmark     November 16, 2014 at 10:25PM
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chickenfreak(7)

Re: "Two crop types are the maximum for that garden size imho."

I'm befuddled. I've had community garden plots in the past, and people regularly grow ten or fifteen different things in their 12X25 plot. Sure, it would be less work to fill the OP's whole 95X35 space with raspberries, or tomatoes, or make it all one pumpkin patch, but I don't see it as actually impractical to grow several things.

This post was edited by chickenfreak on Mon, Nov 24, 14 at 2:12

    Bookmark     November 24, 2014 at 2:09AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

I put squash out at the end of the driveway with a free sign and it's gone each day! Nancy

    Bookmark     November 21, 2014 at 9:22PM
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glib(5.5)

Since the PO is interested in beet krauts, let me mention that unlike cabbage krauts they need water to be topped a few times to keep them under.

    Bookmark     November 22, 2014 at 7:08PM
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glib(5.5)

Maybe for cardoon soup. Not for fresh eating. Keep them frozen. Last year the same happened to me and I went cardoon-free. This year I picked them early with root and dirt and stashed them in the garage. There is a veritable jungle in there.

    Bookmark     November 20, 2014 at 9:36AM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

I planted beets between two rows of artichokes this year. The beets did well, the artichokes did nothing. At least I got something harvestable from the bed.

Rodney

    Bookmark     November 19, 2014 at 2:12PM
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charlieboring

Last year my artichokes did nothing either, but I realized that my mistake was not to veralize them. I am told that artichokes need to experience 190-210 hours of temperatures below 50 degrees in order to induce blooming. Next year I intend to ensure that theat is done.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2014 at 2:47PM
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emorems0(PA - 6a)

No, lol... I meant 14 degrees F... apparently my lack of sleep and mommy brain got to me last night. I brought my two squash in this morning when I went out to defrost the chickens' water... the squash were frozen solid. I'm hoping I can cut them in half and bake them today without ill effects.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2014 at 9:35AM
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glib(5.5)

yes, you will be able to bake them.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2014 at 9:45AM
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Deeby

This is a very interesting and informative thread to follow. I know it has veered off from the original question but sometimes that's a good thing !

    Bookmark     November 18, 2014 at 8:25PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I agree, Deeby, and as long as a thread follows the natural progression of the conversation, it works. That kind of a thread does seem to develop what you describe. It's not like we all started talking about woodworking. [g]

    Bookmark     November 19, 2014 at 6:20AM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

Wow! I would gladly sell 100 seeds for $5 and free shipping! ;)

    Bookmark     November 18, 2014 at 5:17PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Imn-F777- I would have thought that a spammer would try to make their post a little less obvious. Guess I was wrong.

wertach- If I had the room for corn (and if it was allowed on gardenweb) I might take you up on that offer. haha

Rodney

    Bookmark     November 18, 2014 at 5:44PM
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