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chrishashtags_gw

Dave - Thanks for the info. I was really just looking for generic info since I'm about to get hot, sweet, and bell peppers going. Pretty clear from your comments though that the one in the OP was far too small to be fruiting.

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 6:44PM
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thecityman, Zone 7a/6b near Nashville

I am 100% with everything digdirt said. I suspect over fertilizing, over watering. The planting medium also looks suspect, though of course its hard to tell. But I hope you have something besides just wood mulch in that pot. I also fully concur with his suggestion about repotting and, even more importantly, burying that long, thin stem most of the way up. Its also too young for fruit....is it outside? Is it an ornamental or what variety. I think I pretty much just repeated degdirt's post but it was worth rementioning. good luck.

    Bookmark     January 27, 2015 at 2:39PM
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linaria_gw

Do you have any favorit type of veggie? I think if you got more specific, it would help.

I guess it depends what climate you are used to, but Kaiserslautern is much warmer than places in Nordniedersachsen.

You can start some lettuce in March/April, sowing directly into the bed, beans around May, June

The best results with tomatoes I got when growing them in a container in a soilles potting mix on a south facing balcony, I have given up on Freilandtomaten, the ones planted in a bed without cover against the rain.
It is not that bad to veggie garden in your area, rather a matter of skill and TLC ( but isn't that always the case...),

so let us know what you went for, bye, Lin

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 2:13PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Kaiserslautern is sufficiently warm in the summer to grow tomatoes and (marginally) peppers; however, you will need raised beds.

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 6:04PM
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DivaInTheGarden(6)

Correction: Peppers can be planted ONE per square foot. Not six. Oops!

    Bookmark     January 23, 2015 at 8:18PM
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annew21(7b NC)

I consider basil to be a high value crop because I freeze tons of pesto so I can have it all winter. It's all relative. If you like peppers better, then I definitely agree that you should fill the box with them and put the basil in pots. Sweet pepper yields, at least in my zone, are typically not great unless you're planting the non-bell types like Jimmy Nardello. The more pepper plants, the better.

As for weeds, buy some straw mulch. It's great for moisture retention and weed reduction.

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 10:30AM
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ltilton

You want to cut them before the new shoots come up, to keep from damaging them.

    Bookmark     January 25, 2015 at 8:39PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Best to get dead stuff off the asparagus in the fall so the asparagus beetle has no place to overwinter.

This post was edited by laceyvail on Tue, Jan 27, 15 at 5:54

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 6:24AM
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planatus(6)

Most of WV is Z6, and WV Extension's famously wonderful garden calendar is now online as a downloadable PDF. Or, you can check the month that interests you online, and review the task list. In my experience the Calendar's planting dates are spot on.

Here is a link that might be useful: WV Garden Calendar

    Bookmark     January 25, 2015 at 6:16AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I start broccoli and any cabbage on March 16. I start tomatoes, peppers, and eggplant on March 28. I start some early watermelons on April 17 and the rest of the melons April 28. Onions are set out on March 31. Sweetpotatoes on May 17. White potatoes April 14

    Bookmark     January 25, 2015 at 11:13AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

In general, low plants should be on the south side, and tall plants on the north, if you're trying to maximize absorption of sunlight. Afternoon sun is just as important to plants (from the point of view of photosynthesis) as morning sun. If your plants do tend to get highly stressed from afternoon sun, then I suppose it makes sense to bias the shading to then. But if not, then don't worry about it.

In many places one tends to get sun preferentially in the morning or afternoon. Might want to give that some thought as well.

    Bookmark     January 23, 2015 at 2:43PM
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galinas(5B)

What I mean, if you use trellis for cucumbers, but not on melons(as melons better grow flat, that up) then cucumbers will be higher and melons will be lower. If you use trellis for melons as well, and height will be the same for cucumbers and melons , then plant the way you have easier access to cucumbers - you will access cucumbers much more often then melons.

    Bookmark     January 25, 2015 at 6:30AM
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Creek-side(5)

I have about 6,500 square feet of vegetables, and I've been spending about $60/year on seeds. I can cut that down a lot just by saving seeds from my mostly heirloom tomatoes, peppers, and summer and winter squash. For me it's not about saving 40 bucks; It's just another aspect to enjoy. This year I am saving seeds from everything, and proving them out the following year, and then I am good to go.

One of my big goals this year is to save seeds from my edamame; last year birds ate all of what I was letting mature for seed. I had netting over them all season to keep the deer out. Wasn't anticipating birds getting involved.

Getting critical mass where you no longer have to buy seeds is such a cool feeling. In one season I am about already there with garlic. I planted 31 cloves last year. Last fall I was able to plant 60 cloves from my harvest, and I have enough to last me through until harvest. Absent a catastrophic year, I am never buying garlic again.

    Bookmark     January 23, 2015 at 9:29PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

I have mostly used starts from a local organic farm/nursery.
Now that I'm retired, I'm hoping to get the seeds going.
We have a seed exchange monthly with free seed from locally grown produce, so it's a good bet that it will grow fine in our area.
I'm hoping I'll spend 0$, but I'm sure I'll end up buying something! Nancy

    Bookmark     January 24, 2015 at 8:56PM
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    Bookmark     January 23, 2015 at 1:22PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

ltilton I don't click into anything that doesn't have some comments along with it. Just looking out for spam/phishers/etc Nancy

    Bookmark     January 23, 2015 at 9:02PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

That's a nice compost surprise.

I think softneck garlic, which is what the garlic should be as that is what is sold commercial, will do well in GA.

    Bookmark     January 21, 2015 at 12:43PM
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BahamaDan ZTropic

Let us know how it goes, and pictures if you wish ;)

    Bookmark     January 23, 2015 at 7:08PM
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tcstoehr(8b Canby, OR)

I never had any problem with late shipments from Territorial. But I don't use them anymore because they've lost their focus on regional varieties and are simply trying to sell everything they possibly can. Their catalog now offers a vast warehouse of useless nonsense. They'll sell whatever they think they can sell, and that's fine. But they are of no particular value anymore.

    Bookmark     January 22, 2015 at 8:44PM
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Kalie(9 - Jacksonville, Florida)

The small order I placed a few weeks ago just now showed up. I received an email saying the order would be delayed as they were preparing for their 2015 shipments. I was ordering some extra cabbage seeds and raishes, so I kind of wish they would have shown up back in December... but I'm not too upset by it. If I had missed a planting date however, that would have been annoying. I told them they should have a prompt prior to purchasing.

    Bookmark     January 23, 2015 at 2:15PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

I was going to try growing artichokes in Zone 6b NY.... I knew it was not a sure thing at all for success, but it sounds extremely difficult... am I wasting my time?

If I don't have success getting blooms this year could I get them to survive the winter with mulch?

    Bookmark     January 22, 2015 at 10:14AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Peter- I think they are much easier anywhere they can be true perrenials, like Zones 8+. The reason those of us in colder zones go to the trouble of vernalizing them is because they need to have had a winter to trigger blooming, and since they might die in a truly cold winter, vernalizing the new plants gives the best chance of success.

They might make it through a mild winter up your way with a lot of mulch, might not. Are you wasting your time? Depends on how much you find you enjoy the process or the plants. They are quite beautiful even if you never get a choke.

    Bookmark     January 23, 2015 at 10:13AM
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jnjfarm_gw(5a)

A followup to my previous comments. Mo. is a big state you didn't say where you were in the state. I am 50 miles east of NE corner of state. The early crops such as peas, radishes. lettuce, spinach turnips beets etc. I plant real early and will plant a small area of each so if the early crop fails, I still have a crop. I plant in wide rows except for peas. I will plant an area of 30 inches wide by 12- 16 inches. that will give you several meals of each crop. and if the weather turns bad, you may lose a few seeds. but so what. The old timers will say around here " if you don't get snow on your first planting, you planted it late"

    Bookmark     January 22, 2015 at 3:15PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Agree. Both NY state and MO have different climates . So it depend from WHERE in NY you mover to WHERE in MO..

Best/First thing would to find out your USDA zone number in MO and take it from there.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     January 22, 2015 at 3:57PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I don't do any special prep Kevin. I just buy some good size sweet potatoes, cut them in half length-wise and set them cut side down in a shallow container of potting mix, perlite, vermiculite, sand whatever is handy and keep it damp. I set the containers under the shelves in the shade in the GH. Snip them off at skin level when 4-6" tall and soil is ready to plant. I don't bother with rooting the slips themselves first but some do.

Dave

    Bookmark     January 21, 2015 at 8:45PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Hmm. I tried that a couple years ago and the damn thing just rotted from the inside out. But I put them out in the sun... Might've that been the problem? I thinK I used a mix of compost and potting mix.

Kevin

This post was edited by woohooman on Thu, Jan 22, 15 at 11:58

    Bookmark     January 21, 2015 at 10:42PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Width/Length of the containers? 25 gallon containers come in all sorts of shapes and sizes.

Gallon size isn't all that important since they only need about 12" of depth. But you should be able to evenly space several plants 8-10" apart or around the container somehow.

For example, 10 gallon grow bags made for potatoes call for 3-4 plants. They are 12-14" deep and 22" wide side to side. That assumes careful watering and extra feedings.

Dave

    Bookmark     January 21, 2015 at 3:37PM
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ZachS. z5 Littleton, CO

I think my totes last year were 18 gallons. I put 3 seed potatoes in each of them. I ran out of potting soil and one was full about 8" the other....let me think...12-18" maybe? Anyways....

I got bored of watering them and dumped them all out in early July (I still had my main, in-ground potatoes anyways). I was surprised to get a meal or two's worth of new potatoes. If they had stayed in those buckets for the rest of the summer, I would have gotten a pretty good harvest out of them I think.

    Bookmark     January 21, 2015 at 6:49PM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

One study I had heard about but have not really gone back to look over noted that drip irrigation did not really reduce (conserve) the amount of water used, but it did produce healthier plants with a greater harvest, I always thought it was something interesting to contemplate.

    Bookmark     January 20, 2015 at 8:53PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Well, what I was TRYING to get across, was that many rules and regulations were being changed so that it's OK to get rid of that water soaking lawn and go against all those HOA rules for front yards. Including growing veges in containers.
I wasn't trying to bring up arguments on Ca agriculture! Nancy

    Bookmark     January 20, 2015 at 9:03PM
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