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GardenDan 6a

It is understandable corn is a specie of grass

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1craftymom

Thank you everyone! I pulled them all. I planted around 30 plants and only about 6 have came up. I guess I will go out there and try and plant some more seed. Maybe the ground wasn't warm enough when I planted them, either that or maybe not a very good packet of seeds?

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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I had one white plant last year on my final planting.

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dave_f1 SC, USDA Zone 8a(7b)

gene mutations in corn

According to this, maybe it's a mutation on chromosome 8 and/or 2. If you plant out alot of corn you'll see all sorts of interesting mutations.

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Miss_Moose (Winnipeg, Canda. Zone 2)

I'd agree. Pollination is the problem. SVB will damage the entire plant.. not just the squash. The borer eats the plant from the inside.. so imagine the same symptoms in your plant if a large part of the main stalk was cut off... the plant would begin to die.. wilt.. if your fruit are dying and your plant is fine, try hand - pollinating and see what happens. If you don't know how: Take a male flower and pluck it from the plant. Pull the pedals from the flower, leaving just the little yellow stick covered in pollen in the center of the flower to the stem. Now take that pollen covered stamen, and rub it on the yellow part in the middle of the female flower (you can sing Marvin Gaye's "let's get it on" while you do :D ). Make sure to leave the female flower attached to the plant, and see if that helps.

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Katie Gooding(8b, Coastal SC)

I'm so glad to hear you think it may just be a pollination problem, that's easy enough to fix! I also have tomatoes growing fairly near by and no blossom end rot there, and they are on the same soaker hose so getting pretty consistent watering. I think I will try hand pollinating yellow one too, as it doesn't seem to be fruiting either, and while I often talk to my plants we will see what my new choice in music does for the garden :)

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Remove them for longer storage.

Dave

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goldenecho(Z8 (Waco TX))

Thanks!

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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

The seed is very easy to keep over winter. Mine usually just sits in an old plastic carton somewhere in the kitchen. I don't even bother to cover it and some years it's right by the stove. Germination is always very high.

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Wild Haired Mavens(Zone 10)

Try eating the green bean pods before seeds developed. Best green beans ever.

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Miss_Moose (Winnipeg, Canda. Zone 2)

I never could keep cilantro. It's so picky, not even indoors under lights. It just bolted lol

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lgteacher(SCal zone 9b)

Look at the underside of the pepper leaves and check for insects and insect eggs. The damage looks very similar to what you see from citrus leaf miners. There are leaf miners that affect peppers.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Squash blossoms only have a 24 hour life span anyway so while heavy rain could knock them off the vine if hit just right, they will fall off all on their own anyway after their few hours of "fame". Were they male or female blooms?

Dave

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FADiver (7B, eastern Virginia)

Yeah, I see now they were all male blossoms, so I guess they would have fallen off anyway, so I got a bit worried for nothing. And, there are still plenty of other male blossoms still flowering.

For a hobby that's supposed to be relaxing, gardening sure can make you anxious sometimes!

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beesneeds(zone 6)

Winter squash are noted as such because of their long growing season and winter keeping- not because they will grow during the winter. They die with the cold just like summer squash does. Well, I suppose a winter squash might grow during the winter down in the deep south, lol.

But will you see a harvest? Maybe, I dunno, never tried growing in zone 2. You might want to invest in a frost blanket or a season extender of that sort to cap over your plant in the fall if you need to and just need an extra week or two of season for the squashes to get fully ripe.

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farmerdill

If your is the Vegetable Spaghetti about the same season as a Howden Pumpkin. Your plants sound like they are about a month to a month and a half old. So if your temps hold you should harvest in September maybe late August due to your long daylight hours. These take approximately 4 months from seed.

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Miss_Moose (Winnipeg, Canda. Zone 2)

Lol, wish they had an edit option for these comments, for just that reason.. spelling mistakes! :) You don't really need to "do" anything, but hey if you're excited and you just want to be hands-on, there's nothing wrong with going out there and gently maneuvering the stems closer to your trellis if they happen to be happily vining the other direction. However, a word of caution... cucumber vines aren't like squash fines, etc. They're not hardy and meaty... they're like crisp, hollow straws and won't hesitate to Snap if you bend them the wrong way... and there's really no recovering. That's not to say that cukes aren't resilient growers, but if you happen to snap off most of the plant at the base, you're out of luck so be careful. :)

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beesneeds(zone 6)

Heh Miss, you can edit your posts- you just click the edit button in the upper right hand corner of your post :)

But for the cukes... If the CRW has holes too big or the spacing of your cuke isn't right for it to want to grab onto the wire, you can always use a bit of twine in the inbetween areas to help it out a bit. The cukes want to climb all on their own.

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jennycatoe

Thank you GardenDan. I'm going to go check under the leaves and see if there is anything. I can't find any real evidence of voles. I've contacted the Clemson university to see if they can identify the issue and will post if I finally determine anything. My father in law told me he planted 50 tomato plants here about 3 years ago and he lost every one of them to this problem. Others seem to be wilting now.

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jennycatoe

Update: Bacterial Wilt was the results from the lab test. I lost all 22 plants.

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LoneJack Zn 6a, KC

It depends on where you live as to what is feasible especially since you want to squeeze in 3 crops in one season. Beans probably would be your best choice but beans take minimum 60-65 days from seeding until pulling out plants after the first harvest so if you planted 7/1 you would have beans in the bed until early to mid September which in much of the country would be too late for planting fall peas and spinach. If you can leave room in the bed for seeding the spinach and pea rows before the beans are harvested you might be able to get 3 crops in if all the stars align :).

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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Green beans, collards, kale in mid July, Asian radishes, turnips, escarole (early August), fall lettuces (late August), September, spinach and winter lettuces.

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thegreatcob

the green color does not mean it is not spaghetti squash.
you just have a common mutation.

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Miss_Moose (Winnipeg, Canda. Zone 2)

Spaghetti squash and Zucchini will cross pollinate. I think that's what happened. I think they're quite pretty actually, but I'm curious to see what the inside would be like... zucchini, or spaghetti??

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Is the mix in the pot the same as the mix in the bed? The bed plants are clearly nitrogen deprived, severely so. All the wood chips in that mix could explain it as they could be binding up all the nitrogen in the soil. But the pot plants don't show that so if the mix is the same stuff then that explanation won't work.

So IF you are not over-watering the bed the first thing I would try is a good heavy dose of nitrogen for those plants. If that doesn't help then I'd suspect there is something else in the bed soil mix that is causing the problem.

Dave

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Tobor

I don't think it's over-watering, cuz we're in a drought and I've been pretty carefull about my water schedule.

Dave, GREAT question! and I think you might be onto something. the two soil mixtures are NOT the same. I created the raised bed before I knew that gardens benefit from nutrient rich soil. The picture where the plants look fine was done with a mixture of worm castings, biochar, rock dust and soil...

I dug up the sickly looking plants today and amended the soil. hopefully that helps.

Thank you all for the insight.

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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

I grow Indeterminates with plenty of space in the garden, I try to remove suckers but miss some which is no big deal, The only reason I remove them is to allow more air to move through the plant which I feel helps to reduce diseases, As far as not getting as many tomatoes that way is no problem either since I plant enough tomatoes, As others already said it is mostly a personnel preference.

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katyajini(z6 NYC)

Wow! guys thank you so much. I am beginning to get the picture. Kind of like pruning in general in the garden. Whether you want fruits or flowers and a well aired disease free happy garden. I think as I see the tomato plants grow up I will understand what to do. Keep 2 or 3 main stems and enough growth the garden space can support in a happy and healthy way.

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K.

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farmerdill

Often happens when the plant is stressed. Not as visually appealing, but the broccoli is still good. That much rain probably half drowned the plant. They need air to the roots in order to take up nutrients. Superdome is a great broccoli but hard to find today.

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pamchesbay

I have you to thank for Superdome. You gave it high marks in a post or on the Cornell site. Found seed at Shumway. Usually only plant broccoli in the fall but after reading your posts, decided to try a spring planting. Superdome was doing great until the deluge. I cut the heads tonight for freezing. Thanks farmerdill. This Virginia girl has learned so much from you!

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