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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

The thing on the main rib of the leaf looks like it might be scale. Scale will cause sticky residue and black sooty mold. Scale is much worse than aphids because the adult insect hides under a waxy covering that can't be penetrated by most insecticides. Don't over react though. On a small plant you can probably scrape them off with your fingernail or a Qtip soaked in rubbing alcohol. You just have to be diligent about getting them all. Here's some scale insects.

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Peter (6b SE NY)

No definitely not IMHO... a huge mound of soil is not actually helpful, and if you are burying 12-18" of good healthy foliage above what you already hilled you are only going to be killing good foliage. I am fairly sure for Yukon Golds you just want to prevent greening, so if the original potato you planted is 8-12" underground I think you are good to go. You can add a little more, a few inches, for good measure.

But hilling potatoes is often debated and if anyone knows something about Yukon Golds that I don't feel free to chime in....

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elisa_z5

I agree with Peter -- sounds like you have enough soil covering the spuds. In my experience, YG's do not set particularly high, so one hilling followed by mulch works well.

Grass clippings are fine for mulch. So is hay or straw (though in my area, straw brings invasive weeds, while hay does not.. Hay just brings the weeds I already know and love.) So if you want to cover the hills some more, you can use a mulch cover. I normally wait until after a good rain to apply the mulch, since it will block some rain, but also hold moisture in.

Some people only use mulch, and no soil mounding. So with hilling once, not twice, you'll be using a combination of methods.

Sounds like you're off to a great start, with them so tall already!

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aniajs(Z6 Reno NV foothills)

It is interesting, and I applaud your diligence in tracking everything. I keep telling myself I should quantify instead of relying on my memory of lasts year's production....
I think it's somewhat limited in use due to the fact that the cultivars are not interchangeable, i.e. you can't substitute a Marconi for a jalepeno. Nor does it compare growth habit and plant size with fruit production. (For example, it would be useful to know that of two bell varieties that averaged about the same pounds of fruit per plant, one took up significantly more room than the other to do so.)
Do you have any favorites in regards to taste?

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vaughnbjorkus

Wonder, Quadrato, Canary and Purple Beauty are all bell type peppers. The plants were all about the same size, and smaller than any of the other plants. They could in theory be planted more densely because of this, but in my test they are planted equidistant.

Marconi, as a sweet pepper, certainly isn't a substitute for jalapeno, but I do find it to be an excellent substitute for bell peppers, and this year have dropped several of my bells in favor of planting more Marconi.

I can't detect a difference in flavor of green peppers, so heat and texture are more important. Fully ripe is always more flavorful, but even then, the sweet peppers all taste about the same, independent of color. My tests were originally to discern what I thought was the best tasting pepper of various heat levels, but since the flavor is so similar between like types, it became more about texture and yield.

I don't have exact size measurements, but all bells in my experience have been about half the size of the larger plants (Marconi, Anaheim, Pablano). Pepperoncini and Jalapeno are in between the two.

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Gueysh Art

Here is a photo of my tomato plant.

Here are the spotted leaves.

I bought this fungicide, says it helps with powdery mildew, spider mites, flies, etc... for fruits and veggies, flowers etc. Use once weekly or once biweekly directly on the leaves and "run-off" I really dont have run off.

This is the fertilizer I was using. For flowers and veggies/fruits.

This is the instructions on the back of the fertilizer. I used as directed. Says can be used every time water is needed or once every 14 days I think. Comes with a double sided spoon. 1/4 tsp for daily watering per gallon and a 1 tbs side for watering every 14 days in a gallon of water.

I really hope these photos help to determine what I am missing and what steps I need to take going forward.

Thanks!

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Peter (6b SE NY)

Sorry that is some kind of special container tomato I really have no experience with this. I also do not know what your spots are but they do not look like fungal disease to me. Hopefully someone with this kind of experience can give you advice. Good luck!

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mfran12345 (Zone 6b, northeast PA)

Thanks for the replies. I saw about 5 last night. Not a huge number. My only concern is the spinach safe to eat after a good washing?

If I see more bugs I'll set up a trap to get them.

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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

In some locations, earwigs are serious garden and crop pests. We need to remember that. Click HERE for some good information.

mfran, you should set up a trap now. The arthropods that I mentioned earlier aren't exactly out in the open. For every one you happen to see, there may be hundreds that you don't. The traps are a good way to tell if these things exist in serious numbers....or not.

Of course, your spinach is perfectly safe to eat.

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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

Chayote are perennial in climates where the ground does not freeze... I take it that you are in one of those areas? ;-) They get stronger each year for several years. I grew them when I lived in California (in both San Diego & San Jose), but never for more than 3 years, so I can't vouch for their performance long-term. In San Jose, I deposited a thick layer of leaves & grass clippings to keep the root zone moist, and to replenish nutrients... roots grew up into the decaying leaves. The established vines produced about 50-100 squash each.

In spite of the small flower size, I observed several different bees visiting the flowers... so I doubt that any special pollinators are necessary. Not sure why yours are not setting. Sometimes mine flowered for a short period without setting, the female flowers begin opening first, followed by the males. You have two plants, so you should get good pollination.

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mav72(10b)

When I was a kid, ours pushed 7 years but it was well taken care of and it had an extensive root system.. It sat in a corner of a mulch pile... I grew up with that plant. Lol Nowadays, I cant even get one to survive past 4 years...

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ccabal(7)

Just a suggestion... next year just plant seeds directly in your garden. Squash plants (zucchini is a kind of squash) generally germinate and start growing very quickly from seed. When you plant transplants, they will suffer a setback during the transplanting,and take a while to start growing quickly again.
I would bet if you do this experiment: plant a seed and a transplant (like ones found at home depot/lowes/walmart) at the same time, that the seeded one would pass up the transplant in a few weeks.

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ZachS. z5 Littleton, CO

I plant squash 1 plant every 4'. I would thin them, but you don't have to. Six squash plants, if they grow and produce normally, will give you enough squash for very close to the rest of your life.

As for pollination, if you have squash bees (Peponapis & Xenoglossa spp.) pollination will never be an issue. Honey bees actually are very poor pollinators of squash plants because the pollen is generally too large, and flowers close to early, before the honey bees even wake up and get going for the day. Squash bees As the Pepo in Peponapis suggests) are designed specifically for the job at hand ;). In fact, sometimes I grow squash only to ensure that I maintain my healthy population of P. pruinosa bees.

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Keri Ballard

Adnorm are those seeds for hot or spicy ones? if so I would love to buy some from you?

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I realize this is a very old thread but for any future readers the minimum approved ratio of vinegar to water is 1:1 or 50% vinegar and 50% water. The correct ingredients for the recipe mentioned above is 3 cups vinegar to 2 cups of water not the other way around as listed above.

Dave

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barrypz

Zone 6 here, coastal Connecticut, my rhubarb patch is over 50 years old (I inherited it) and every 5 years or so I divide and give away plants. My 16 linear feet yield more than I can usually use. Most definitely not an annual, and we have cold winters.

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Mary Bendel

I live in Oregon, and the plans were about 8 years old. I had two of them. There was a big bush growing close to them which provided a lot of shade; too much I thought, so we cut it down. After that, the plants were in full sun, and it got really hot last year. I was thinking maybe that could be it, but I'm not sure. I have gotten another plant, and planted it a little farther away where it will get some shade. So far, so good. But could I have shocked the plants by taking away their shade?

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njitgrad(6A/6B)

Would mold or fungus have a web-like appearance? It bears a striking resemblance to the webs I used to get on my Dwarf Alberta spruce that I eliminated a few years ago.

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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

Look up mycelium on Google or in Wikipedia and you will see images similar to yours. Mycelium are the "roots" of fungi. Wood mulch is a good host for for fungi when it is wet and cool. Most of it is harmless and will go away in dryer and brighter conditions. Here is a photo of the mycelium of the common button mushroom.

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njitgrad(6A/6B)

OK, so I was misinterpreting what was happending. However still doesn't explain why my 274s are not coming up while the others have no issue.

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weirdtrev

If other varieties of the same plant come up, it is probably just bad seed. Maybe the seed was old or stored improperly before it got to you. That happens. Sometimes you get the wrong seed or seed that just won't grow. Especially if you keep replanting from the same seed and nothing happens. That is when I would contact the seller and ask for a refund and get different seed. That or just plant more of the variety that does grow for you.

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dinajean(upstate SC -Zone 7b)

Thanks y'all! Appreciate ya

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rhoder551 zone 9b-10

I've heard that from the old timer gardeners I know. I do it but I suspect it has more to do with the little extra amount of water on the fringes of the tomato roots.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Just mold. Disappears as the air and soil dry out. Been several discussions here lately about similar issues - molds and fungus growing on soils and mulch.

Dave

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njitgrad(6A/6B)

Well in any case I re-applied DE to the damp soil again today now that the rain in the northeast case stopped. I really want those basil plants to recover and he only way for that to happen is to eliminate the critters that have been munching on the seedlings.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Then from that info your primary problem, other than the weather, is that you are using soil/dirt in containers. Never recommended. What works fine in the garden is fraught with problems in a container. It compacts in the container, drains poorly, causes root rot and suffocation, leads to over-fertilization due to pour draining, and contains harmful fungus and bacteria that can quickly multiply in a contained environment and do in container plants.

So if you can't change it then you are stuck coping with its problems all season long.

As for fertilizer, flowers are different from veggies in the way the use nutrients and the nutrients they need. But most any fertilizer - even Miracle Grow - can be used effectively and without burning either IF it is used well-diluted. As a general guideline container plants are only fed diluted fertilizers - 1/4 to 1/2 strength - but they are fed more often than in ground plants - approx. every 10-14 days.

Even with lousy soil nutrients will leach out of containers every time you water. So they have to be replaced regularly. With soil less potting mix that drains well it is possible to almost schedule the replacement feedings. With dirt it isn't. You have to use plant appearance as your guide. So you'll want to review the many available pics of the various nutrient deficiencies so you know what to look for.

Tomatoes aren't especially heavy feeders in that they don't need tons of stuff. They just need it to be consistent, a low dose steady supply at the right times. And they need micro-nutrients as much as they need NPK. MG has all those and if used well diluted should meet their needs.

Hope this helps.

Dave

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Miss_Moose (Winnipeg, Canda. Zone 2)

Thanks Dave, just a heads up if it makes any difference, the "containers" are just walls. The bottoms are cut clean off. I have limited space and have squash up front that block the summer sun when at full size so it was the only way I could raise the tomatoes about a foot.

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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

I am not answering a, b, c, etc. because I just have some general points to make.

First off - we are lucky over here in that our seasons are very elastic. If you look at the backs of seed packets there is often a period of 3 months over which you can sow seeds. So don't count your delay from the first possible sowing date. It is often far too cold and wet to start sowing in March. Count it from the end and you are only a couple of weeks out.

2. You can't reliably grow apples from seed - are you sure that's what you meant? (You can grow apple trees from seed but there is no way of knowing if they will have fruit worth eating and you won't find that out for years.)

2. What sort of Broccoli is it? Summer or Winter? I haven't sown my Purple Sprouting or Kale yet. I should have done but I know from experience that it really doesn't matter that much. I'll just get the crop a bit later next year. I'm still picking last year's.

3. Celery is very tricky for a beginner. You can certainly try sowing it now. Spring has been quite cool so give it a go. I don't even try to grow it now. It's such a faff and we don't eat that much so it isn't worth it to me.

4. Cucumbers are touch and go outdoors. You can still sow inside and transplant into the ground. Or you can sow outside under a jam jar or plastic bottle.

5. There are cabbages for all seasons so you need to follow the instructions for the ones you have.

I suggest you Google each of your vegetables and 'RHS' to get instructions for each type. Here's an example: https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/grow-your-own/vegetables/cucumbers

I would also suggest you direct sow some easy stuff like Peas, Runner Beans and Lettuce because you have picked some challenging types for your first attempts and it would be nice to get some successes. You can also start some Courgettes under a jar or indoors. People are only just planting them out now so you are not too late.

p.s. note that most people on this forum are in the US. Many of their seasons are much more sharply delineated than ours. Many of them have far hotter summers than we do and far colder winters. For example, you cannot germinate Aubergines outdoors here, at least not until about mid July, under a jar, when it will be too late to get any fruit. In fact you can't really grow them outdoors at all with any degree of success. When US posters talk about 'cool weather crops' they are talking about stuff we can grow throughout the summer. UK seed packets don't give days to maturity. Given our weather that could easily be 100% out. I still have my central heating on and am still sowing peas.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Oh good I was really hoping floral picked up on this one. Best source on UK questions. :)

I can only repeat that you have picked some challenges to grow and there are easier things for new gardeners. You must know your specific variety needs not just a vegetable in general. So name your specific varieties with questions.

And the seeds are good for many years in most cases when stored properly.

Dave

PS: forget about apples

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