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| Hi there! I planted my morning glories,cardinals, and moon flowers all in a nice big pot. Recently the morning glories and cardinals have been slowly wilting and dying. I need help! I've attached a picture of a morning glory sapling(theyre all growing indoors with a lamp) that I plucked from the pot after i noticed it started wilting and going soft. I looked at the bottom and it looked dry. What could it be? The moon flowers are doing fine. How come? Is it root rot? I think I may be over watering. :( please help |
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- Posted by ken_adrian MI z5 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 24, 14 at 17:27
| looks like it rotted off its roots ... whats your media... whats your watering protocol ... and how close are your lights ... though you offer no scale... its seems a bit hyper-extended ... and how cold is the room you are working in??? most seedlings.. prefer to be in very small pots... and up potted.. when they need it.. if you start in a huge pot... often.. you end up with watering problems ... more info please ... ken |
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| Thanks for the response ken i water them lightly everyday, the light it self is 7 or 8 inches away and the room is my bedroom, which is relatively warm. It is a 12x12 inch pot thats around 9 or less inches deep. I am using peat moss to grow them that i already bought from the store. |
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- Posted by ken_adrian MI z5 (My Page) on Tue, Nov 25, 14 at 16:37
| peat moss... properly moistened.. for use.. can probably hold enough water.. for you to water once a month .. do you see what your problem might be???? PMoss is an amendment.. to other things.. it is not a very good growing media.. all by itself ... unless you mean.. you bought a peat based media???? when i did seeds of various things.. i started with 6 oz solo cups ... and when roots came out the bottom.. i went to 8 oz ... and then to 16 oz.. and then to a pot the size you use .. dont ask me why ... but the plants require such ... that .. and i quit trying to grow annuals indoors in winter.. lol ... you might learn a lot more.. if you just bought some house plant .. and tried annual seeds late in winter.. so when they get a few inches tall ... and the weather warms enough.. you can grow them outdoors in the full sun they need ... i dont want to discourage you ... but i think you are doing this on the cheap [and that gets you a lot of thumbs up from me.. dont get me wrong] ... but in doing so.. you are making it very hard to win .... so far.. you have learned how to germinate seed ... which means you found good seed... planted it at proper depth ... provied enough warmth ... and enough water for that part ... but then things started to go wrong ... so focus on what you did learn.. and lets get you to the next level .. i suggest an african violet ... and some other houseplant .. take the AV.. cut off two leaves.. and learn how to propagate it.. check in in that forum.. and in the mean time.. if you give it enough light... momma will bloom.. and in a few months.. you will have some babes ... also get a houseplant.. that you can nurture and also propagate ... i am blanking right now on a good one.. one of the vining type.. that you can root cuttings... try that forum ... these would be great winter things to do.. under lights ... then.. when its time to get outdoors in spring.. then lets get back to your annuals... as most.. need warm soil.. and full sun.. once they are big enough to handle such.. or if sown straight into the soil... they will cope ... there is also a winter sowing forum.... to look into ... whatever you do.. dont give up gardening.. the reason older peeps do so.. is to have an excuse.. to play in the dirt.. and not get mocked.... lol there is no saving the MG in your pic... lastly.. watering is an art.. not a science.. which means.. it is not a schedule thing ... you water.. when the media is so dry.. it needs water ... and its an art.. learning.. how that works.. with your media.. in your pot.. in your bedroom ... no one can tell you how to do it... but err toward not enough.. some peeps.. professionals.. do not water.. until the day the plant droops.. and then they KNOW .. when the media needs water ... otherwise.. all you are doing is guessing ... and that is were WE .. start making mistakes .. have fun... and never give up ken |
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| Thank you for the amazing response! I will definitely do so! Thank you once again, great help. |
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- Posted by ken_adrian MI z5 (My Page) on Wed, Nov 26, 14 at 11:22
| you are welcome ... and thx for the private email ... but the conversation should continue here ... fungus gnats ... as you diagnose.. are consistent with severe over watering... its all starting to fit together .. spraying the soil surface will not solve the issue ... get rid of the media... as there a FG eggs in it ... or sterilize it as per the link .. presuming all your plants are dead or dying ... you only live thru FG once... and then you realize.. its easier to avoid them.. than to cure them ... keep in mind.. the cost of trying to cure things... at some point.. its counter intuitive ... i learned to avoid them by sterilizing media before use.. and learning how to water .. as described above ... ken |
Here is a link that might be useful: link
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| Okay i set up some traps for them, and its starting to work! I will be watering in a couple of days when the media is dry. and hopefully thatll kill them. Thanks again. Also wanted to add that one of the saplings was wilting, so said lets try moving it into another pot, which I did. and in an hour it sprung up back to normal! I added vinegar and dish soap to my watering bottle to kill them when i water them in a couple of days. Thanks! |
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| Okay i set up some traps for them, and its starting to work! I will be watering in a couple of days when the media is dry. and hopefully thatll kill them. Thanks again. Also wanted to add that one of the saplings was wilting, so said lets try moving it into another pot, which I did. and in an hour it sprung up back to normal! I added vinegar and dish soap to my watering bottle to kill them when i water them in a couple of days. Thanks! |
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- Posted by ken_adrian MI z5 (My Page) on Wed, Nov 26, 14 at 18:34
| dish soap is not a soap.. like they talk of.. in the garden ... some are not good with plants ... and i really dont know what vinegar will do for them ... but it will alter the pH of your media ... if used in abundance .... vinegar is used as a cleaner.. becasue of its high acid content ... relatively speaking .... you are winging this??? .. completely ???? .. arent you ???? .. lol ... you remind me of my son or daughter ... of course.. i am talking with you ... they would never ask me ... lol ... may i ask your age??? .... it would help me to understand what i am working with ... lol ... ballpark it.. i dont want any private info and of course.. you isolated the transplant ... if you put it right next to the infested pots ... momma is going to fly over there and start the cycle in that pot ... did you sterilize that media ... i didnt know there werer traps for such ... and they obviously wont trap the eggs waiting to hatch ... are you talking about the yellow sticky traps???? i once had a FG problem.. so big ... i couldnt watch my beloved red wings play hockey.. for the 90 million pucks that seemed to appear on the tv screen ... i had to bomb the house ... and repot a couple hundred potted hosta seedlings ... ken |
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| The use of vinegar in this case is questionable, since vinegar can be used as a herbicide. There are better ways of lowering pH, provided that it has been established that the pH needs lowering. ZM |
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| i havnt used the vinegar thing yet, but i put apple cider in a jar with holes and a lot are already trapped dead in there! :). Also ken im 17 years old, took up gardening beginning of this year and im enjoying it greatly! about to build a greenhouse, so exciting!!!!! |
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- Posted by Emerogork2 5 (My Page) on Sat, Nov 29, 14 at 5:09
| To me, it certainly looks like too much water. For me, when the plants wilt it is time to water. I don't water every day and sometimes it could be a week before watering. One good test is to stick your finger into the soil and if it comes out clean, add water. If any soil sticks to your finger, then do not water. It is not fool proof but can work in most cases. Small pots dry out faster than large. |
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| The original picture looks rather like Damping Off to me. |
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| I have a lot of Fungus gnats, and its driving me crazy guys. Seriously frustrating. |
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| Fungus gnat maggots could have eaten the roots. Mosquito Dunks contain an ingredient that kills mosquito larvae and also fungus gnat maggots. Pretty much anything in the "Fly Family" (Order Diptera). |
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