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If you could only invest in ONE specialty tool...

Posted by pdxgreg OR 8 (My Page) on
Mon, Apr 21, 08 at 21:00

Hello,

I'm new to bonsai. I have almost taken the dive in many times over the years, and now and again have purchased and grown some mass-produced half-hearted bonsai facsimiles.

I've always been fascinated by the real thing though, and am ready to move beyond the cheap garden center versions.

I've been doing a lot of reading, and am beginning some serious air-layering on my many Japanese Maples, as well as beginning some initial pruning and training of some shrubs here and there in my yard, which I intend to let grow for some time yet.

All that to say...in the meantime, I am poring over the nursey aisles in search of suitable starter material. So far I've purchased a juniper, a Korean Hornbeam, an azalea, and a Pieris Japonica "Variegata". All but the hornbeam were under $10 and will allow me to practice my pruning and wiring technique. These are my "impatient" bonsai and I want to make them work now, even if they become little trees.

While doing the initial clipping to open up the structures of these plants so I can see where even to begin, I discovered I am going to need to do some serious cleanup of both existing and future major branch cuts.

My question is this:

After reading several books telling me I need a knob cutter, an angled cutter, a concave branch cutter (a flat concave and a full concave--and according to one book there's supposesdly a "hybrid"), and a root cutter, I've checked pricing. I just can't make a huge investment at this time.

Given that I never really expect my trees to be award winners, I want to know--if you could purchase only one of the above tools, which would you get?

The 4 different books I've read all give these different names, and sometimes I think what is called one thing in one book is the same tool called something else in another book. Clarification would really help. With the limited knowledge I have, I'm thinking a straight branch cutter (not the concave) might serve multiple purposes for me.

I know the curved cutter createds a cleaner wound that heals better, but I read somewhere the other day (but only in one place that I now can't find) that azaleas do not respond well to the deep cuts a concave cutter makes. Does anyone know about this?

In any case, I'd like to purchase the appropriate tool as soon as possible while it's still early spring and I can see the branch structures best and also have a long seasong for the trees to grow and heal.

Which tool should I get?

Thank you in advance for all your help.

Greg in Portland


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RE: If you could only invest in ONE specialty tool...

The one and only concave cutter, neither a totally flat one (though I prefer them to the other extreme) nor a fully concave one. There is no substitute for the CC and just about everything else can be 'faked' with other types of 'tools' you have around or can find somewhere. And I doubt if you'll find anyone in bonsai disagreeing - if only one tool can be had.


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RE: If you could only invest in ONE specialty tool...

Greg, I agree with Lucy about the Concave Cutter( CC ). Be aware that there are Branch Cutters, and then CC. I bought a set of chinese tools with a Branch Cutter which was called a CC. My first upgrade tool was the CC, bought from an online store who knows what they are really selling. I had the same problem as you with what different people call Concave Branch Cutters, and finally found a seller on Ebay who produced GOOD photos.

Ron


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RE: If you could only invest in ONE specialty tool...

I have a friend in our local bonsai club who swears by something very much like surgical scissors (the kind with the tip bent at an angle)for fine pruning of tight ramification. I've watched him work with it and it is very effective. He says he bought it at Wal Mart but I forgot to ask in which department. It's definitely a lot cheaper than anything imported from Japan. It's on my list of stuff next time I go to WM.
Krys


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RE: If you could only invest in ONE specialty tool...

The wen cutter or concave cutter is the only really indispensable tool. You can root prune with old scissors or secateurs. Small nail scissors or cheap sewing cotton cutters will do for tip pruning. Whatever you do, invest in the best concave cutter you can afford. Cheap Chinese ones last no time at all. Don't be tempted by stainless steel either. They don't hold their edge as well as proper forged steel ones. Joshua Roth are a good manufacturer and they have a good range here http://www.joshuaroth.com/catalog/page3.html


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RE: If you could only invest in ONE specialty tool...

Where does it have the prices listed on Joshua Roth's site?
-Jmcat


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RE: If you could only invest in ONE specialty tool...

They may or may not be listed there depending on whether they sell directly to the public or only to distributors, but prices are readily available at many places that sell the brand online, such as Brussels Bonsai, Evergreengardenworks.com, (probably) Bonsaimonk.com, etc.


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