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Dwarf Powderpuff appears to be dormant - NOT growing.

avengingab
17 years ago

Hi, I am having a problem with my Dwarf Powderpuff. I've had it for 3 months now. At first when I brought it back home to my little indoor greenhouse table, it grew happily and vigorously, springing new shoots and leaves. Once the flowers finished blooming though, the plant stopped growing and lost ALL of its vigor. From my inspection every day, all the plant seems to be doing is putting out enough effort to just survive.

Plant Description: The leaves are green with a (very) slight yellow tinge to them, but still seem healthy, maybe a little dry and a little leathery (I'm guessing it likes more humidity), but smooth and normal shaped. Branches have green to them, even on branches without leaves. NEW leaves grew to a very small size (bunches of 5-6 leaves together, which is normal), staying at about 3/16" or 3-4mm long, no larger. No flowers since the last ones that bloomed and fell off either. Plant seems dormant. Fullsized leaves are 1" in length, but those are OLD. All new growth (which is also fairly old, 4-5 weeks?) STAYS the aforementioned 3/16" size.

Environment: Indoors, but it is getting a lot of light on my bonsai table (5 full racks of 20W fluorescent lights supplemented with 12 (100-150W incandescent equivalent) coil fluorescent bulbs serving a small 2' x 4' table). Ultrasonic humidifier feeds misted fog through clear tube into the area, but relative humidity is still 40-50% at 85-92 degrees F. Fan directs the hot air from out under the lights. Powderpuff gets 14.5 hours of light, as do all my other bonsai trees - and my other bonsai trees are growing and the ones that flower are flowering.

Watering/Fertilization: It is in a fairly large pot for the amount of leaves it has (not many....you can count them (20?) but they are green). I just water them just like the others, when the top 1" of the soil is dry. I dont know if anyone is familiar with it, but I use Dyna-gro liquid concentrate for fertilizer. I follow the dilution instructions for noncirculating hydroponics, which I use as water (I fertilize every time I water unless the tree is sick or doing very poorly) for my other plants seem to be happy with (many serissas, a boxwood, a natal plum, costa rican mint, neea buxifolia, and bougavillea galbra). That drops the pH of my water down to around 5.5-5.8.

Soil: Mostly inorganic coarse mix of shale, volcanic rock, and some bark.

******DOES ANYONE KNOW for certain if Powderpuffs hate ACIDIC SOIL? ! Well, if they do that would certainly make it frown and freeze..********

Bugs/Pests: None in the soil that I can see, leaves and bark are clean.

Can't figure out what's wrong with the tree!! But it must be one of several things, and I think the most likely suspect would be the pH, humidity, maybe the soil medium... I don't understand what it's doing, so if any of yall have suggestions or guesses, I'd be happy to hear!

Thanks,

Matt

Comments (11)

  • lucy
    17 years ago

    Are you sure it's meant to live indoors? What's it zoned for?

  • avengingab
    Original Author
    17 years ago

    The bonsai store that I bought it from, the guy's pretty knowledgable about Bonsais and he said it should be able to grow indoors, but will still need a lot of light. (Also http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/powderpuff.html)

    Not sure...maybe I'm not pruning enough to encourage growth, but honestly, there's not that much to prune on that powderpuff now haha.

    If I was to guess, maybe....

    1) pH is too low
    2) humidity is too low

    OOPS.................................

    I see.

    I just took another look at http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/powderpuff.html and it says it likes slightly alkaline soil.

    COuld that be it?

  • lucy
    17 years ago

    But that shouldn't make much difference. What are you fertilizing with?

  • avengingab
    Original Author
    17 years ago

    Dyna-grow fertilizer, I forget the two that I use, it's like 12-5-5 and 5-12-3, alternating. Like all the trees, I use them with my regular water diluting to non-circulating hydroponic concentrations. Keeps the pH at around 5.5 (so any alkaline soil loving plant might not feel at home). Serissas, boxwoods and mints respond well to this regime. Sometimes I fertilize every other time, but usually every time. The water/fertilizer mix mostly just flows through because of the coarseness of the soil so there is little accumulation. Anyway, it's not getting any better, but it's not getting any worse either. *shrugs* I don't know.

  • lucy
    17 years ago

    Sorry, but I'm afraid I just don't have an easy (or quick) answer... you seem to have addressed all the obvious things. Maybe that particular plant is a bit of a dud (it can happen),

  • avengingab
    Original Author
    17 years ago

    haha, yeah it's possible that it could be a dud. It was growing so well when I first got it. I cut it down A LOT though. I think maybe by half, but I balanced the root pruning appropriately as well. The tree started new growths at first which was promising, growing out to new leaves, but then it hit on the brakes and just STOPPED growing. I think this was after the second repot, because I wanted to expose part of the tap root for decoration sake. (Is it bad to expose the tap root?) Anyway, the feeder roots are in the soil (or pruned). Even if new growths arise, they stay the bud size. (I'd say 2-3 mm, as a cluster of 5-6 leaves - beacuse that's how the powderpuffs grow.) It's just so confusing....I don't understand.

    To narrow things down, what about the following:
    Will an exposed taproot cause dormancy?
    Will overfertilization of plant cause dormancy?
    Will out of range pH cause dormancy?
    Will too much light cause dormancy? (hah I don't really think that's the case)

    I don't know.....but for now I've stopped fertilizing, started watering the exposed tap root as well, which narrows down the questions above to light (which would be silly)... I guess we'll see in a week or so if things get better??

    It only has like 20 or less leaves on it now. :( Anyway, maybe I'm going around in circles, but I was hoping if I added more details, might ring a bell in someone's head. It's got a reall pretty branch structure (like wings almost) and I don't want it to die!

  • lucy
    17 years ago

    Why would you 'expose' the tap root? Is it attractive in some way that I might have missed :-)? Most people cut them off over a year or two, to encourage new feeder roots near the trunk to grow. Taproots are just buried carrots! But I don't see how exposure would induce dormancy! Neither will fertilizing or pH changes and the only 'light' that affects dormancy is the shortened kind (in autumn) along with temperature changes and ... genetics. What have you been reading? You need to seriously start reading up on growing things in general, then trees, and bonsai. Good luck.

  • bonsai_audge
    17 years ago

    Since it's just been recently top- and bottom-pruned, I wouldn't be very surprised that it has stopped (noticeably) growing. I don't know much about indoor bonsai (which I'm assuming that this is), but I would guess that it's simply taking time to get reestablished. The initial flush of growth that you saw probably used up the majority of the plant's immediately-available resources.

    -Audric

  • faeriedrago_hotmail_com
    17 years ago

    Well Lucy, I've read that nutrient lockout due to too low or too high pH can induce dormancy, so it is a possibility. I have no idea what it is, but I got one side of the tree (one of the two trunks) to start budding and flowering by easing off on the fertilizer. Maybe it did just need to take time to get re-established. I suppose powderpuffs don't bounce back as fast as some other species...though most things indicate otherwise...

    Matt

  • maggidogorchid_yahoo_com
    15 years ago

    I have a bonzai powder puff tree that arrived in beautiful condition. After pruning & potting in a bonzai pot the leaves dried up & fell off. A few remained for several weeks, opeing in the day & closing at night. They have now fallen off. The tree looks dead. However,I nipped the tip of a couple of branches & found them to be bright green inside. Its been 2 months with no leaves & no growth, but the branches remain bright green inside. I'm considering planting in a regular pot & soil & putting it outside for the summer. I hate to toss it.

  • stanofh 10a Hayward,Ca S.F. bay area
    15 years ago

    See my post on Margos plant.Since this topic is years old,my advice is if you try again,keep your Calliandra outdoors in summer in plenty of light as long as possible in the year.The indoor lighting you have should get it by until the next warm season...
    ps,mines in plenty acid soil..that gets a bit too wet also.It does fine. Bottom line is light ,light,light,and avoid root pruning as much as possible-lol...

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