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| First - great job! You obviously understand the plant's genetic vigor and aren't at all timid about exploiting it! I think you have one more chop to do. I would look at the roots to determine the best planting angle, then select one of the two bar branches as the top, train it to a more vertical position, and let it grow wild for a year while restraining the other branch somewhat to allow the top to catch up so the reduction in taper isn't so radical. Alternate: I would wait for the tree to shoot a branch (your first branch) off the trunk opposite where the new top emerges and immediately below your chop, then remove the 2 existing branches. It looks like you might have chosen the front to hide the chop scar, but I wouldn't worry about that at this point. You have the makings of a nice tree that you'll have for a long time - plenty of time for the scar to heal. |
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- Posted by greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a (My Page) on Sat, Dec 3, 11 at 12:14
| Excellent work, Ryan! I'll echo Al in saying that you have a good courageous understanding of the plant. Most folks hesitate to make any sort of chop, and then they often get it wrong. Keep the updates coming! Very helpful series.
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- Posted by ryan_tree 7aVA (thebonsaiguy1993@yahoo.com) on Sat, Dec 3, 11 at 14:53
| Thanks Al and Josh! I love these Willow Leaf. I've got probably 7 or 8 of them. They grow so quickly and recover from dramatic work like you wouldn't believe. Al, interesting suggestion about chopping again. Might I ask why you suggested that? I think what you're suggesting is like that I've done in this picture: Chop at the red and wire the branch up like the green? |
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| Almost ..... If those branches are bar branches (last picture in your first series), and it looks like they are, the extra chop would be on a plane between just above the slightly higher branch to just above the lower branch - almost a horizontal chop. The slightly higher branch is then trained upward & the slightly lower branch becomes the tree's first branch. As it is now, the branches occur at nearly the same level. The reason I mentioned that is because I judged the Detroit area bonsai show last year and remember there was a F nerifolia that probably would have rec'd recognition if it wasn't for the fact that the lowest 2 branches were bar branches. Just a side note: I find it absolutely amazing that I can't put a face to a name worth a darn, but I remember all sorts of seemingly unimportant information about plants. I can also look a tree over briefly in the course of my travels, & then remember whose it is/was several years later when I next run across it, and even see what work (even if it was substantial) was done to it in the interim period. ;-) Al |
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- Posted by ryan_tree 7aVA (thebonsaiguy1993@yahoo.com) on Sun, Dec 4, 11 at 17:39
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| Yes. Now you're building a tree with the primary on the outside of a curve. .... almost the same as what I mentioned as the alternate suggestion in my first post, except in that case you would utilize the top you created (last photo - your OP) and wait for a branch to show itself on the opposite side below the chop. Normally I wouldn't suggest that route because you can't always depend on a branch where you need it, but with nerifolia being such a predictable and prolific back-budder, you'd be virtually assured the tree will shoot a branch where you need it - probably several. You'd eventually end up with a little sumo. ;-) Al |
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- Posted by ryan_tree 7aVA (thebonsaiguy1993@yahoo.com) on Sun, Dec 4, 11 at 21:41
| Hmmmm you've certainly given me something to think about, Al. Mr. Jerry Meislik and I have been discussing this same issue via e-mail and he agrees with me that the bar branches aren't too big of a deal and wouldn't cause reverse taper for many, many years. I'll at least look the tree over for a couple months, then see what I think in the spring. Thanks for giving my mind a good workout, Al! |
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| Ooh! Just read the thread, and I can't stand the suspense! What happened? Did it pop a branch where you wanted? Where was it? What does it look like now? Inquiring minds want to know! ;-) |
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