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Willow Leaf Ficus Progression

Posted by ryan_tree 7aVA (thebonsaiguy1993@yahoo.com) on
Mon, Nov 28, 11 at 21:28

Hey everyone,

I thought others would like to see the progression of a Willow Leaf Ficus that I've owned for maybe 2 years or so.

Here is the tree when first purchased, almost 2 feet tall:
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Ugly roots:
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Chopped and some root work:
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Roots before:
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Roots after:
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Repotted:
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It bud back like crazy:
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So I did more root work:
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Ended up with this:
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But that wasn't good enough so I chopped it back again:
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I let it grow:
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Picked a new front:
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And here is the tree as of today:
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Any comments?


Ryan


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RE: Willow Leaf Ficus Progression

  • Posted by tapla z5b-6a mid-MI (My Page) on
    Sat, Dec 3, 11 at 9:45

First - great job! You obviously understand the plant's genetic vigor and aren't at all timid about exploiting it!

I think you have one more chop to do. I would look at the roots to determine the best planting angle, then select one of the two bar branches as the top, train it to a more vertical position, and let it grow wild for a year while restraining the other branch somewhat to allow the top to catch up so the reduction in taper isn't so radical.

Alternate: I would wait for the tree to shoot a branch (your first branch) off the trunk opposite where the new top emerges and immediately below your chop, then remove the 2 existing branches.

It looks like you might have chosen the front to hide the chop scar, but I wouldn't worry about that at this point. You have the makings of a nice tree that you'll have for a long time - plenty of time for the scar to heal.


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RE: Willow Leaf Ficus Progression

Excellent work, Ryan!
I'll echo Al in saying that you have a good courageous understanding of the plant.
Most folks hesitate to make any sort of chop, and then they often get it wrong.

Keep the updates coming! Very helpful series.


Josh


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RE: Willow Leaf Ficus Progression

Thanks Al and Josh!

I love these Willow Leaf. I've got probably 7 or 8 of them. They grow so quickly and recover from dramatic work like you wouldn't believe.

Al, interesting suggestion about chopping again. Might I ask why you suggested that? I think what you're suggesting is like that I've done in this picture:

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Chop at the red and wire the branch up like the green?


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  • Posted by tapla z5b-6a mid-MI (My Page) on
    Sun, Dec 4, 11 at 14:06

Almost ..... If those branches are bar branches (last picture in your first series), and it looks like they are, the extra chop would be on a plane between just above the slightly higher branch to just above the lower branch - almost a horizontal chop. The slightly higher branch is then trained upward & the slightly lower branch becomes the tree's first branch. As it is now, the branches occur at nearly the same level.

The reason I mentioned that is because I judged the Detroit area bonsai show last year and remember there was a F nerifolia that probably would have rec'd recognition if it wasn't for the fact that the lowest 2 branches were bar branches.

Just a side note: I find it absolutely amazing that I can't put a face to a name worth a darn, but I remember all sorts of seemingly unimportant information about plants. I can also look a tree over briefly in the course of my travels, & then remember whose it is/was several years later when I next run across it, and even see what work (even if it was substantial) was done to it in the interim period. ;-)

Al


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Ah now I see it Al. Do you mean something like this?
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  • Posted by tapla z5b-6a mid-MI (My Page) on
    Sun, Dec 4, 11 at 20:13

Yes. Now you're building a tree with the primary on the outside of a curve.

.... almost the same as what I mentioned as the alternate suggestion in my first post, except in that case you would utilize the top you created (last photo - your OP) and wait for a branch to show itself on the opposite side below the chop. Normally I wouldn't suggest that route because you can't always depend on a branch where you need it, but with nerifolia being such a predictable and prolific back-budder, you'd be virtually assured the tree will shoot a branch where you need it - probably several.

You'd eventually end up with a little sumo. ;-)

Al


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RE: Willow Leaf Ficus Progression

Hmmmm you've certainly given me something to think about, Al.

Mr. Jerry Meislik and I have been discussing this same issue via e-mail and he agrees with me that the bar branches aren't too big of a deal and wouldn't cause reverse taper for many, many years.

I'll at least look the tree over for a couple months, then see what I think in the spring.

Thanks for giving my mind a good workout, Al!


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RE: Willow Leaf Ficus Progression

  • Posted by korina 9b, Sunset 17 (My Page) on
    Tue, May 8, 12 at 14:59

Ooh! Just read the thread, and I can't stand the suspense! What happened? Did it pop a branch where you wanted? Where was it? What does it look like now? Inquiring minds want to know! ;-)


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