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| Growing up in France I looove - and have been missing for 20 yrs!... - my Lilly of the Valley, their amazing fragrance... and what they used to represent for me in the spring!.. I've never found the bulbs or pots - or never thought about it - on time to plant them and enjoy them at the right time...:-)
I finally found some LOV pips but it's already May 6th. So I do not know, and can't find anywhere, if I can plant them now or if I should wait till fall?..
Can I plant them in the containers now? Can I start them in indoors pots? If so, will they grow and come back next spring?
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| Veronique, you can plant them now outdoors. They are totally hardy. But be warned that they spread and are very difficult to eradicate, so make sure you give them a pot of their own where you don't mind them spreading. They like cool, moist dappled shade. Le Muguet has special May Day connotations in France which it doesn't elsewhere so I can see you would miss it so much. |
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| I wouldn't worry about LOV taking over in pots. You'll be lucky if they do well in containers in a terrace above ground. Definitely pot them now. It's a myth that clematis want their "feet in the shade", what they do want is plenty of moisture. You can plant the LOV in the same pot with clematis so long as the LOV don't take up too much root space and moisture away from the clematis. Incidentally, they are not technically bulbs. |
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| I would give them their own pot. It would be wider than it is deep, and self-watering could be useful. Maybe eight to ten inches deep and fourteen to eighteen inches wide with generous drain holes. If I could find a soil-based potting mix I would use that as a soilless, or a peat-based mix carries the risk of being too hard to re-wet. The city temperatures can be very high and, as you say, there is the matter of the wind drying out the pots. I wouldn't plant it with the Clematis and rose. For two main reasons: every so often you need to lift the mat of roots to thin it back to fewer 'pips' and your foundation plants will probably not appreciate the upheaval; and, Their appearance doesn't matter in the woods, or in a ground-level garden. There is usually something else to distract the eye. Not so on a balcony garden where everything needs to be elegant and groomed. They like morning sun, or even broken afternoon sun. They'll survive a midday blast but they don't look 'happy'. Once they've flowered and flaunted, you need to have somewhere out of public view so they can grow, enjoy the sun and rain, be protected from drying winds, and be scruffy as the year moves on. They do like being fed - preferably on something that adds humus to the soil, because they tend to live in the top few inches more than delving deeply. Dry steer manure as pellets, or leaf mould with some added blood and bone would be acceptable. Food, and a medium that holds water for slower release. Add this in both autumn once the leaves have gone, and spring before the leaves-flowers are up. Not too thickly. Maybe half an inch to an inch, no more. They'll be fine with snow, should it fall. And whatever you do with your pots already to protect them from frost will be fine. These plants are hardy down to zone three after all. You will probably have to thin them out every two years or so. They do not need any fridge time at all and they can stay in the ground all year. |
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- Posted by Veronique33 (My Page) on Thu, May 10, 12 at 11:40
| Wow... Thanks so much everyone for your answers. Not sure my own follow up posted. Can't see it here... So forgive me if it repeats... not very familiar with using forums... :-) Yes, Flora, the first of May is very special in France and brings all kind of wonderful memories... Not the least of them just going to pick wild Muguet for Mom as a little girl... Or receiving it from your first admirers as a teen... :-) So... I'll plant them now... Should I chill them first in the frig? I was thinking to add them in my two self watering 30'x12' tubs at the foot of my Clematises and Rose Climbing bush where I just added a couple Peonies and Day Lilies bulbs. I usually add impatiens and other shade lovers annuals in spring, but I would like to have more perennials and less to plant in spring. As well as achieve the 'head in sun, feet in shade need' of the Clematis and Rose Bush. Anything I can plant with them in the pot to have some show in the summer and/or fall to hide the pot when they 'look awful' as I do not have room on the terrace or inside !... How about under my Hostas or Astilbes or at the foot of my Euonymus tree which is thinning at the bottom? Never had LOV in the US so I'm not sure what their exact look cycle is here... :-) And just to precise something... They would not flower this season even if I was placing them in the frig before planting like they suggest for forcing? That only works in winter, right?... I'm so eager to smell them!... LOL... So many questions, sorry... :-) Thanks again for your time and expertise... Veronique PS: oh ... Just one more... Does a link stash on a post? or is it not allowed? Thought I included it but its no longer there... Will try again...:-) www.ChelseaDaylightStudio.com |
Here is a link that might be useful: My NYC Terrace
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- Posted by buyorsell888 Zone 8 Portland OR (My Page) on Tue, May 15, 12 at 12:21
| I would not plant LOV with Clematis. Clematis would resent their competition for water and nutrients, mine with root competition fail to thrive. I would not plant LOV with hosta either. In my shady garden bed the LOV swamps the hosta and kills them eventually. I dig LOV out every year and cannot get rid of it. It is very aggressive. |
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