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Starting rain lilies from seed

Donna
15 years ago

Has anyone done this? Several sources on the net say it's easy, but there are no specifics. I just harvested some zephyranthes reginae seed and would love to have more. I thought I'd sow in pots unless I'm better off sowing in the ground. What kind of soil? moisture? sun exposure? Anyone?

Comments (32)

  • Donna
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    This helps enormously! THANK YOU, Bubba. I just gathered the seed yesterday. Will sow it tomorrow. I am excited! This sounds very do-able.

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    No problem - I just posted some pics of other rain lilies for "bloom day" on my blog if you're interested. They're among my favorites.

    Here is a link that might be useful: The Transitional Gardener (blog)

  • Donna
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Oh my goodness, bubba! What an amazing website. I have sat for more than an hour reading every word and just soaking in the beautiful photographs. Thanks so much for including the link. I appreciate your generous sharing of tips and knowledge that is so far beyond mine. I will check in periodically. (I am SOOO jealous that you live close to PDN. Some day when I am visiting my family in east Tennessee, I hope to make the trip there just once.)

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    Thanks so much, Donnab. I went back to work (teaching) this week, and am suffering severe gardening withdrawal, both actual and virtual. Blog entries will probably be very sporadic for a while as I reintegrate myself into the workforce, but it was fun for the summer. Most of my knowledge of gardening is based on years of reading, gardening, and killing lots of plants, so I'm no authority, but I love to experiment.

  • jodik_gw
    15 years ago

    I must thank you, too, Bubba, for sharing this information... though I live in the north, I keep a pot full of pale pink flowered Zephyranthes on my east windowsill. I've had them since last fall, when a dear friend in Florida sent me some bulbs. They just finished blooming recently, and I adore them!

    I'm hoping to add a few more flower colors to the collection, and give crossing them a try... just for fun! I'm glad to find out that they're as easy to germinate and grow as Hippeastrums!

    Your blog is amazing! The photographs are excellent, and the writing, superb! I've bookmarked it, and plan to read through more when I have a chance. I'm so jealous... I wish I lived in a climate that allowed me to plant a wider variety of things outdoors, and leave them there over winter! Carrying pots en masse up and down a flight of stairs every spring and fall is getting old, not to mention, hard on my weakening legs! Oh, to retire southward!

    Anyway... wonderful blog, and very useful rain lily information... thank you so much for sharing!

  • Donna
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Thought I'd report in that it's been ten days and I have baby rainlilies germinating. One of the benefits of the six inches of rain Fay has brought in so far. :)
    Thanks, Bubba!
    And, if you see this, Bubba, what do you consider to be the longest blooming crinum?

  • west_texas_peg
    15 years ago

    I have Citrina and a Peach colored one, white and a white with pink tinge....would love to swap for something different.

    Peggy

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    Congrats on the quick germination, DonnaB - rain really does help, doesn't it? I'm hoping for a little over the next couple of days, since things are looking stressed here and all four rain barrels are now empty.

    As far as the crinums go, that's a tough question, since they're kind of sporadic, like big rain lilies that respond according to rainfall, but I keep coming back to Emma Jones - it's been in bloom for more almost two months now, and keeps putting up scapes. All of the x powellii clones (pink and white) have a lot of rebloom, too, and there are "Ellen Bosanquets" in the neighbor hood that have put out a lot of flowers this summer, too. I think rebloom relates to the fact that these hybrids don't set seed (as do straight species), so the flowering mechanism doesn't shut down as readily; they also seem to straddle the bloom season between parent species, so that extends things as well.

  • Donna
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Thanks, Bubba. I have been eyeing Emma Jones ever since I read Ogden's book that you recommended, and especially since I saw the picture of it on your website. What a stunner.

    I got my first crinums only 3 or 4 years ago, just the common milk and wine lilies. I traded a dozen rooted rose cuttings for 8 bulbs. (I think I got the long end of that stick, but I didn't know it at the time. :) Of course, it took them a couple of years to settle in, but once they bloomed, I was hooked. They seem to bloom more every year. For years, I have grieved that I can't grow Oriental lilies here, but no more. Crinums are superior because of their repeat bloom.

    Anyway, I will be on the lookout for Emma. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • jodik_gw
    15 years ago

    I grieve that I can't grow tender bulbs, such as Crinum, Hippeastrum and Zephyranthes in my gardens... unless they're in pots, ready to be moved indoors for the cold weather of winter.

    I do enjoy Lilies of different types here in my zone 5 garden, but I'm more of an "Amaryllid" sort of person!

    DonnaB - check out this Crinum link I found while researching! I was looking for dwarf types that would do well in pots...

    Here is a link that might be useful: Crinums In East Texas

  • Donna
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    Oh yes! Marcelle is "world famous in the south". I love her website and have learned alot from her. Thanks for the link. I bet others will be fascinated with it.

    Isn't it perverse of us to always want what we can't have? You want crinums and rain lilies. I want peonies and campanulas. :)

  • jodik_gw
    15 years ago

    I have a dear friend in Florida that would love to grow Lilacs and other northern plants, and I'd kill to have a bed of Amaryllis that I didn't have to lift in fall!

    It IS a little perverse to want what we can't grow in our own climates! I'm very thankful that most things I adore can be grown in pots! I'm a bulb freak! Amaryllids are my favorites!

    One of these days, I'm going to get me a dwarf Crinum that I can pot culture! I'm not sure where I'll put it, but I'm sure I can squeeze it in somewhere! You wouldn't believe what my apartment windowsills look like in winter! And from the outside, the grow lights must look like an airport at night! My bulb collecting is an obsession!

    I wonder if Peonies could be lifted and refrigerated in your area... to give them the cold dormancy they need? I know several people who do that with Tulips and such...

  • karen__w z7 NC
    15 years ago

    Jeff, what do you do with your new seedlings the first winter? I lost all of mine keeping the pots outside, even in a protected spot, and am looking to try something different this year. Do they need a dry dormancy (without freezing) at this stage or will the bulbs be too small and dessicate? Thanks for any info that will help. I've got some 'Batik' in bloom this week and would love to see what progeny I can raise. Karen

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    I do keep my first year seedlings in a coldframe through the first winter, and I wouldn't risk letting them dry out completely, although they don't need nearly as much water as during the summer. Some, such as Habranthus tubispathus, produce foliage mainly in winter, so will need a bit more water in winter - they need periodic summer drought to bloom well. I don't keep any outside in pots all winter- anything in pots loses a zone or two of hardiness for me as opposed to planting the same plant in the ground. Hope that makes sense!

  • karen__w z7 NC
    15 years ago

    Makes sense, thanks. I've done this goldilocks (not too cold ... not too dry ...) dance with other tiny bulb/seedlings but they were hardier species than the rain lilies. I actually meant to bring the zephyranthes inside last time I grew them but forgot, and they turned out not to be the forgiving type. Guess I just need to build that cold frame this year.

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    I think you'll be glad you did - I could live without a greenhouse (and may have to, if the latest predictions re. Hurricane Hanna come to pass!), but not without coldframes.

    DonnaB, peonies of almost all kinds grow and bloom really well around here, as long as they're not planted too deep - have you tried them? You might be pleasantly surprised. I have to admit that they look pretty roughed up around this time of year, since they're not used to such a long growing season, but they always come back in spring and look fantastic. Can't say as much for campanulas; they have drainage and humidity issues in the summer, but they're not among my favorites, so I can't say I've tried very hard with them.

  • Donna
    Original Author
    15 years ago

    I have had Festiva Maxima (which is one of the few that grow this far south according to the "experts") for five years, and THIS year I finally got three blooms. They immediately flopped down under a rain. Like you said, they look dreadful this time of year too. The jury's still out...

    Now, back to the baby rain lilies. I have them outside on my deck right now where they get water everyday in their six inch pots (It looks like about six seeds have sprouted in each pot so far). I don't have a coldframe. How do you think they would do in an unheated basement under lights? That's what I had been thinking...

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    I think that would be the perfect winter location for them; I'd grow mine in the garage under lights if I had more space, but I reserve that for things that require a bit more warmth, such as seedlings of gesneriads, palms, and bletillas. The zephs are a little tougher than those things (and somewhat expendable, given the quantity of seed most of them produce), so they're relegated to the coldframe for the winter.

  • jodik_gw
    15 years ago

    Since I'm so far north, I'll sow my newly acquired seeds indoors and keep them under lights. I do hope they'll survive the winter indoors without too much trouble. They should be fine... I'll treat them very similar to my hippeastrum seedlings, keeping them moist and warm, and giving them as much light as I can.

    I just adore the one pot of pink flowered adult bulbs I already have, and I can't wait to have other colors blooming along with those wonderful pinks!

  • Donna
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    I am resurrecting this thread because I have been harvesting seeds again and needed reminding how to sow them. For those who are interested, the seeds I harvested last year are blooming this year. I think that's a wonderful return on very little effort. Thanks, Bubba, for your expertise.

    If you have not harvested seed, I have learned to watch the plants everyday after they bloom. Reginae is the one I am watching. Candida seems to make offsets under ground so I haven't collected its seeds. The seed pods start as a swollen place on the stalk about an inch below the bloom. It will be a three part pod. As the seeds ripen, the outer cover of the pod turns from green to brown to almost white and translucent. I check them every morning when I am out puttering. When I see the white sheaths, I check again by mid afternoon. They split open and the seeds just fall out. If you catch them just right there are about 20 ebony black seeds in each pod.
    Now, if we could just get a little hurricane....:0)

  • Donna
    Original Author
    14 years ago

    Hi, folks
    In an attempt to keep responses to a reasonable level, I am posting this offer here. I have more seed of zephyranthes reginae than I can use, and I really hate to throw them away! They must be sown when they are fresh. So, here's the deal. If you would like some seed, please e-mail me. I'll send you my address and you can send me a SASE. The seeds are free. When I run out of seed, I'll post here. First come, first served!

  • Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL)
    11 years ago

    PDN = Plant Delights Nursery

  • selene32607
    11 years ago

    Does anyone has seeds for yellow lilies and or white and darker pink? I do have the anemic pink and although I love them I would have loved some other colors. I live in FLorida
    Thanks

  • Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL)
    11 years ago

    Note that seed from Zephyranthes Grandiflora is sterile.

  • oleg9grower
    11 years ago

    "Note that seed from Zephyranthes Grandiflora is sterile."
    My Z. grandiflora seed does not give at all. In the scientific literature says that he is sterile.

  • KatsLilies
    9 years ago

    I have been successful using clear plastic containers that "spring mix" salad comes in for growing out seeds during the fall/winter under Daylight grow lights 12 hours a day setting. Growing mix of vermiculite mixed with peat moss depth about an 1.5" with .25" over the seeds. Will remove the cover once the seedlings touch the lid. I use a heating tool to melt drainage holes in the bottom of the container & air exchange holes in the lid. Once spring/summer comes I'll transfer to larger containers for summer grow out. Have been successful with most of the rain lily seeds this way.

  • Dhriti Singh
    2 years ago

    Hello! I know this post is very old but if someone can reply please do. I live in northern India and rain lilies grow here like crazy. I have rain lilies in many colors as well, but only the yellow one (Zephyranthes citrina) sets seed, why is that so? Anyways, I planted those seeds and they germinated with 3-4 days, its been a year but still the leaves remain thin and the mature, broader leaves and blooms are no where to be seen, can someone help me out? what am I doing wrong in this case? Also if other varieties cannot set seed, can I cross pollinate my pink and white rain lilies with the yellow ones to get some hybrids?

  • Donna
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    I have pink, yellow and white ones. they all set seed naturally in my zone 8 garden

  • Dhriti Singh
    2 years ago

    Thank you for replying! Maybe I have some hybrid variety as only the yellow ones have ever set seed. Did your seed started rain lilies finally flower? Did you get any new colour combinations?

  • Donna
    Original Author
    2 years ago

    Yes the white ones are quite prolific i have never niticed any crosses but they bloom at different times

  • nation image
    5 months ago
    last modified: 5 months ago

    why my Candida doesn't produce seeds,it seem that seeds can not mature,it's hybrid ?

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