Oh, and they are perennials!

Post a pic for a better answer! ;)

Josh

how do you post a picture? i have pics, but couldnt figure out how to post them, but heres what the black grass looks like:
http://www.landscapedia.info/images/plant_images/Ophiopogon_planiscapus_Niger_Black_Mondo_Grass_550_550.jpg

The grass, as the link suggests, is black mondo grass.

Al

The first may be Abutilon, aka flowering maple. Not a maple at all but does feature large, maple-shaped leaves. It is also a member of the mallow family and many of these plants also have maple-shaped leaves and are common perennials. Would need a photo to confirm :-)

My question is, how do you post pics? i cant figure it out! And its not abulition. The leaves are maple shaped, but have a red tone. The plant never seems to flower, but sends up seed pod stalks.

Click this link and scroll down to "How do I include images in my messages".

Al