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| I have been using Self Watering Containers (from Gardeners Supply, WalMart, Earthbox and Johnnies) since 2004. I have a very hot humid coastal environment.
I grow only tomatoes in thse containers. I have been using Miracle Grow Moisture Control Potting Mix for some years. results have been pretty good, but I would hope for better. What mix do you suggest that I use? Michael in Hampstead, NC |
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- Posted by rnewste 8b NorCal (rnewstead@aol.com) on Sun, Jan 9, 11 at 23:07
| Michael, I am sure there are folks here who will give you recommendations on mixing your own. As far as commercial products go, for a self-watering container (of which I have 31), upward wicking is a key factor. For this use, I find Sunshine #4 Mix is excellent, supplemented with a ratio of Bark Fines: Also, I hear good things (but have never used) Pro-Mix HP (High Porosity): Both are a bit pricy, but you should check out a few Hydroponics Shops for a deal. I am paying $27.95 for a 3.8 cu. ft. bag of Sunshine #4 Mix today. Raybo |
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| Raybo: what proportion of Bark should I add? should the small bits be sifted out? Michael P.S. I have been following your Earthtainer saga with great interest. as my present SWCs fail, I plan to build Earthtainers to replace them......BTW: what are you using for totes these days? I don't find any 31s anywhere near here....and what about the cages? P.P.S. I am currently using 3/4 inch PVC cages for my SWCs. they get staked into the ground and the SWC in the case of the earthbox types sits on top of the bottom frame. I am sure this would work for the Earthtainers too. |
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- Posted by rnewste 8b NorCal (rnewstead@aol.com) on Mon, Jan 10, 11 at 4:24
| Michael, The Premiere folks recommend bark that is less than 1/2 inch in size in their Pro-Mix BRK blend. You will get lots of views on this Forum re: ratios, but for self-watering container applications, I have found a 3:2:1 ratio of Sunshine #4 Mix, Bark Fines, and Perlite are about optimal. I have designed a new simplified (and less expensive) EarthTainer III with a removable folding cage system. The Construction Guide is now being written by me, and I hope to get it posted by the end of January. In the meantime, a few pictures: Raybo |
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| I made two of raybo's Earthtainers last year, and wanted to use a mix I already have with some modification. With no SWC experience I knew it was a gamble. My regular potting mix I buy by the yard about $45 from a landscape supply, the same mix used by propagating nurseries. It contains no peat, mostly course sand, fir bark and pumice stone. I added 1/3 fir bark of my own grinding without screening. I added Dolomite about four cups per container and two cups time release fertilizer 18-6-12. The wicking action worked fine. Because of the lack of sunshine and heat the return was less than desired with lots of small tomatoes slow to ripen. A Burpees big boy had a BER problem that failed to respond to calcium treatment. Next year I will move the containers to (hopefully) a better location. Al |
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- Posted by rnewste 8b NorCal (rnewstead@aol.com) on Mon, Jan 10, 11 at 14:14
| calistoga, Personally, I had bad results when I trialed Cactus Mix as an ingredient in one of my mixes. Porosity for aeration to the roots seems to be an important requirement for healthy plant development / production. Here is a clipping from an article on the Premier website regarding aeration and bark particle size: """The process of aeration is one of the most important factors of productivity. Plants absorb oxygen (O2) and release carbon dioxide (CO2) during the respiration process. "Respiring" roots use the sugars made during photosynthesis to provide the energy necessary to drive mineral salt absorption. For most plants, internal transfer of oxygen from the leaves and stems to the roots is too slow to supply enough oxygen to the roots. In order to have good plant growth, the growing media needs to be "aerated", meaning that air exchange between the growing medium and atmosphere has to provide the plant roots with sufficient oxygen and to remove excess carbon dioxide from the root zone. This air exchange takes place through a mechanism called diffusion. Figure 1. The yellow line extending from a to b represents the path which gas travels through this growing medium. Notice the path is short. It has a low tortuosity due to the uniform size of the media particles. Figure 2. The yellow line extending from a to b is longer. Air has to go through a more tortuous path due to the large bark pieces. Here is a link to the full Article: http://www.premierhort.com/website/profweb/aprofweb/premierpress/archi ves/spring00vol7-1/apress7-1a.html Raybo |
Here is a link that might be useful: Aeration Study by Premier
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| Thanks raybo for the interesting article. Fir bark unlike redwood is not stringy and when run through a chipper/shredder no single piece is larger than a nickle. When I screen, it is to remove the fines less than 1/16 inch in size. In the SWC application I thought the fines might help in the wicking, which was my main concern. The great majority of the bark pieces measure between 1/8 and 1/4 inch without screening. I mentioned I would measure the water used daily in the SWC during the summer, as the vines filled out at about six feet. During the warmest days(which were not warm enough) two plants transpired about a gallon and a half a day. Al |
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| I've always used whatever mix I can find on sale. I empty my containers and mix with fresh/aged compost from my pile and an unusual organic slow release nitrogen source every spring, then refill the planters and add about a cup or so of pelletized lime and mix it into the top couple of inches of soil. My planter design is different from any others I've seen since mine have a flow through design that allows aeration at the root level. Gardenweb's Terms & Conditions prevents me from giving a link to my web site though. |
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