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A blast from the past: My Superthrive experiment. ;-)

tn_veggie_gardner
14 years ago

Notice the ";-)" at the end of the subject line. I did search for Superthrive in GardenWeb and read a few of the posts regarding it. I have a good friend at work who swears by the stuff, as has shown me real life results where it makes about a 40% difference in growth, production, etc.. I just can't believe the hype, so I am going to buy a very small bottle of it & run a little experiment to see if my friend is correct or not. I will have several extra tomato plants this year, so i'll probably test it out on one or two varieties of them. I will, of course, have a control plant for each variety I try it on. This should be interesting, to say the least...lol...Thoughts? =)

- Steve

Comments (9)

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ..... you sure you want 'em? ;o)

    Al

  • tn_veggie_gardner
    Original Author
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yea! :) ST says it supposedly contains 50+ "essential minerals for plant growth." I could not find the actual ingredients anywhere though. That's one of the main things i'm curious about. Do tell, Al! =)

    - Steve

  • meyermike_1micha
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Steve,

    For me, a bunch of "hype".

    It does nothing for mine, and did nothing to prevent others from getting sick in the past..Sorry..:-(

    I guess it is all in the eyes of the beholder,or sort of a psychological thing, like taking a water pill, thinking it is an asprin, for a migrane, and thinking it is really working......lol

    Seriously, not for me, Steve...

    Have a fun day

    Mike

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This was published in Stemma Magazine:

    Superthrive or Superjivecolor>size>

    The question regarding the value of Superthrive as a miracle tonic for plants is often bandied about in horticultural circles. Over the years, I had read claims that ranged from, "I put it on my plant, which had never bloomed, and it was in full bloom the next day." to, "It was dead - I put Superthrive on it and the next day it was alive and beautiful, growing better than it ever had before." I decided to find out for myself.

    If you look for information on the net, you will probably only find the manufacturers claims and anecdotal observations, both so in want of anything that resembles a control. Though my experiments were far from purely scientific, I tried to keep some loose controls in place so that I could make a fair judgment of its value, based my own observations. Here is what I did, what I found, and the conclusions I made about any value the product Superthrive might hold for me.

    On four separate occasions, I took multiple cuttings of plants in four different genera. In each case the group of cuttings were taken from the same individual plant to reduce genetic variance. The plant materials I used were: Ficus benjamina, (a tropical weeping fig) Luna apiculata (Peruvian myrtle), Chaenorrhinum minus (a dwarf snapdragon), and an unknown variety of Coleus. In each instance, I prepared cuttings from the same plant and inserted them in a very fast, sterile soil. The containers containing half of the cuttings were immersed/soaked in a Superthrive solution of approximately 1/2 tsp per gallon of water to the upper soil line. The other half of the cuttings were watered in with water only. In subsequent waterings, I would water the "Superthrive batch" of cuttings with a solution of 10 drops per gallon and the others with only water. The same fertilizer regimen was followed on both groups of cuttings. In all four instances, the cuttings that I used Superthrive on rooted and showed new growth first. For this reason, it follows that they would naturally exhibit better development, though I could see no difference in overall vitality, once rooted. I can also say that a slightly higher percentage of cuttings rooted that were treated with the Superthrive treatment at the outset. I suspect that is directly related to the effects of the auxin in Superthrive hastening initiation of root primordia before potential vascular connections were destroyed by rot causing organisms.

    In particular, something I looked for because of my affinity for a compact form in plants was branch (stem) extension. (The writer is a bonsai practitioner.) Though the cuttings treated with Superthrive rooted sooner, they exhibited the same amount of branch extension. In other words, internode length was approximately equal and no difference in leaf size was noted.

    As a second part to each of my "experiments", I divided the group of cuttings that had not been treated with Superthrive into two groups. One of the groups remained on the water/fertilizer only program, while the other group was treated to an additional 10 drops of Superthrive in each gallon of fertilizer solution. Again, the fertilizer regimen was the same for both groups. By summerÂs end, I could detect no difference in bio-mass or vitality between the two groups of plants.

    Since I replicated the above experiment in four different trials, using four different plant materials, I am quite comfortable in drawing some conclusions as they apply to me and my growing habits or abilities. First, and based on my observations, I have concluded that Superthrive does hold value for me as a rooting aid, or stimulant if you prefer. I regularly soak the soil, usually overnight, of my newly root-pruned and often bare-rooted repots in a solution of 1/2 tsp Superthrive per gallon of water. Second, and also based on my observations, I no longer bother with its use at any time other than at repotting. No evidence was accumulated through the 4 trials to convince me that Superthrive was of any value as a "tonic" for plants with roots that were beyond the initiation or recovery stage.

    Interestingly, the first ingredient listed as being beneficial to plants on the Superthrive label is vitamin B-1 (or thiamine). Growing plants are able to synthesize their own vitamin B-1 as do many of the fungi and bacteria having relationships with plant roots, so it's extremely doubtful that vitamin B-1 could be deficient in soils or that a growing plant could exhibit a vitamin B-1 deficiency.

    Some will note that I used more of the product than suggested on the container. I wanted to see if any unwanted effects surfaced as well as trying to be sure there was ample opportunity for clear delineation between the groups. I suspect that if a more dilute solution was used, the difference between groups would have been even less clear.

    It might be worth noting that since the product contains the growth regulator (hormone) auxin, its overuse can cause defoliation, at least in dicots. The broad-leaf weed killer Weed-B-Gone and the infamous "Agent Orange", a defoliant that saw widespread use in Viet Nam, are little more than synthetic auxin.

    Al

  • meyermike_1micha
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Al, lol

    No matter what anyone says, even with credible articles, evidence, science, there will always be many that believe in products like this, that think stuff like this the best thing to ever hit the market..That is why the store in my area can sell a 2ounce bottle for 25 dollars! They told me I was skeptical and to give it a try..So I did.

    Just like vitamins, and minerals, and facial creams. to those products on those infomercials that promise to make you loose weight, while you sleep, to all kinds of concoctions, there will always be believers..

    Heck, I think I believe I can't go a day without drinking my supergreens that I pay 80 dollars a month for.. I swear I feel a difference when not taken for just one day and that my teeth are getting whiter as the product says. One day without that stuff, and I feel like crap...I got hooked..lol.

    At least I am not wasting my money on SP besides..

    Mike..:-)

  • tn_veggie_gardner
    Original Author
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Great article, Al! So, basically, it's only a hyped up rooting hormone of sorts. =) Still though, at $10 for a 4 oz bottle & having as many extra plants as I will, I may still run my experiment. ;-)

    - Steve

  • rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Steve, be sure that your experiment is a true one: same batch of soil, same size and kind of container, etc.

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ...... I even used cuttings from the same plant in each batch to minimize genetic variation in vigor.

    Al

  • thisisme
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I would not use more than the 1-3 drops per gallon recommended by the manufacturer.