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do you mulch your containers?

jiggreen
17 years ago

it always drives me nuts that when i plant new containers and then water them, the potting soil always splashes up onto the plants. i started thinking about mulching the containers, but i'm not sure if that's an ok idea or not.

do you all mulch your containers?

jiggreen

Comments (32)

  • username_5
    17 years ago

    haven't been, but have been considering it. Tossed various ideas around in my mind, but never can decide what i want to do.

  • rickjames
    17 years ago

    I sorta do sometimes--with a few wide stones, both to keep the soil in place and for weight in the wind. I don't put a thick layer of bark or cover the soil surface completely or anything traditional like that--it's more just a breaking point for the water stream. And I know this is odd, but lately I've been using some large whole abalone shells that have been in the yard for years--they're big and keep my soil in place, but mostly they keep the neighborhood cats from digging around in the containers. Plus they're cool-looking--mother-of-pearl insides and all that.

    The stones and shells don't float up when you water, either.

  • username_5
    17 years ago

    The shells sound like a nice way to mulch a pot. About the only place I know to get cool shells is by eating a lot of clams/oysters whatever they are at the all you can eat chinese buffet.

    I should start saving mine and making my friends eat them too.

  • jiggreen
    Original Author
    17 years ago

    hmmm...oyster shells, now there's an idea! i work at a restaurant so i pretty much have an unlimited supply..never thought about using them in my garden. thanks for the idea!

  • brighteyes
    17 years ago

    I mulch my large strawberry jars. I think it helps keep the soil from washing out of the side holes.

    Oyster shells have many uses in the garden. I grew up in a water community and they were used all over the yards. Also for driveways and some of the roads.

    carey

  • rickjames
    17 years ago

    The abalone shells are really the prettiest, but hard to get even on the West coast now--you used to be able to dive for them--I have the shells from years ago--but now you have to free dive and only harvest one per day or something like that; makes it a difficult task and they're hard to get now....classic overfishing :(

    If you can get scallop shells those would be very pretty too, they're so delicate-looking--once again something you can look for at an Asian restaurant/grocery or a fishmarket maybe, if not a craft store--I've seen them there sometimes.

    And since these shells are a *topical* application I'd guess you wouldn't run into too many pH or calcium problems...

  • jenny_in_se_pa
    17 years ago

    I mulch almost all my containers with something. Most get licorice root mulch, some others get shredded oak leaves and/or pine needles, and the rest get some bark chips. It really helps to not only conserve moisture but for my shrubs, perennials, and trees, eventually breaks down and adds to the soil.

  • duane456
    17 years ago

    Try chicken grit.
    Duane

  • aktnyc
    17 years ago

    I faithfully mulch my containers, deeply. Since I have been experimenting with mostly roses for three years now, I feel it is important to keep them damp and cool but drained in hot weather, to keep contaminated leaves off the soil (this is a rose problem that doesn't affect other plants so much) and simply to look good in a patio garden, I'm all for it. I use commercial mulch.

  • Westview
    17 years ago

    I have from 150 to 200 containers of all sizes as my garden. I mulch them all faithfully. The mulch keeps them from drying out too badly here in north Texas and also (most importantly to me) allows me to water them with the hose without washing holes in the soil. The very BEST container mulch I have found is shredded native Texas cedar found at Lowes. The other great one (but more expensive) is shredded eucalyptus. You need a shredded mulch that will not wash away. The secret to watering mulched containers is to use your thumb on the hose to spray some water on first to get the mulch wet so it won't wash away with the stronger hose stream. We also use the shredded paper cage litter from the daughter's guinea pig cage where we really need to hold water (like around roses in dry ground and that sort of thing) it is full of "fertilizer" but mainly it holds its shape in a mound and holds huge amounts of water without letting it run away. I use this mostly around plants in the ground as it tends to dry out rather too much in a container. I am absolutely sold on mulching containers but you do need to find the right organic mulch. Of course rocks are always good BUT when you move your container with a dolly all the rocks fall out all over the yard and get thrown around by the lawnmower and your hubby comes in bleeding and bruised and threatening divorce or worse--and I gave up on rocks after the first year.
    Betsy

  • girlndocs
    17 years ago

    I haven't gotten around to mulching but I'm going to. I'd rather have my toddler pitch out handfuls of mulch than handfuls of soil!

    Kristin

  • Mebane
    17 years ago

    I mulched the lettuce that I'm growing in containers with just some cheap cypress mulch and they are doing great. It makes it much easier to water.

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    17 years ago

    Passing comment: I was recently 1/3 of the answer panel in a question/answer session for a local garden group. When the question of mulch came up, another answerist (new word - hope you like it) ;o) fielded the question and referred to a recent university study (which I have forgotten the name of, unfortunately) that tested the effects of various organic mulches on plants (grown in ground). The conclusion was that plants grown under cypress mulch grew with less vitality and produced less biomass than plants grown under any other type tested. I won't draw the conclusion that cypress mulch has allelopathic properties or is at least mildly phytotoxic, but based on the info provided, it would seem to at least point that way.

    I realize this sounds like hearsay, but I know and trust this source well & she does substantial research for the several club newsletters for which she is editor.

    Al

  • jerseygirl07603 z6NJ
    17 years ago

    I always mulch my containers with either shredded bark or mini-pine nuggets. Especially the herbs - can't stand it when the dirt splashes on the leaves and I have to rinse before using!

  • solstice98
    17 years ago

    I mulch heavily with plain old pine bark. It makes a serious difference in moisture retention - and keeping the dirt from splashing up is a bonus.

  • pdxjules
    17 years ago

    I think small rocks are fine for the purpose you mentioned. They'll look pleasing when wet, too.

    For routine soil-health mulching however, I topdress with a cup of moist compost or humus now and then. I seems to boost nutrition and moisture retention, and provide occaisional worms and oodles of microbial activity, that can help aerate existing soil as it tends to become compacted.

    Now and then a rock or piece of wood is added to shade roots of some ground planted plants, so why not pots too? Primroses love growing next to hunks of wood bark.

    My containers are pretty tightly planted and soil doesn't stay loose for long. They need total renovation at least every other year. Also, I tend to tuck in broken twigs, pinched tips and cuttings as I walk thru the garden - so I wind up with all sorts of odd things that need to be transplanted or potted on. (Rescuing rooted cuttings motivatyed me to repot, more than seeing others things begin to suffer from compacted roots, fade and dry up) I have about a dozen large pots gathered in shade now for dissection and re-potting. A large bag of Perlite is standing by (what a great product!) and I have plenty of compost to mix in.

  • teka2rjleffel
    17 years ago

    I think mulching is a good idea. I get some pretty vigorous weeds here and pulling them out tends to pull the good plants out too. I've used cypress mulch with good results. I've been told that rocks shouldn't be used with roses since they tend to draw and hold heat on the roots which roses resent.
    Nancy

  • flowergazer
    17 years ago

    For the last couple years because i use so many pots to save money and my back to make the pots lighter, i first put a coffee filter over the drainage hole , add a couple inches of cypress mulch (commercial) add miracle grow potting soil mixed with water crystals pop plant in and then add another layer of mulch .I really like this method have never had problems with my plants they grow great i just liquid fertilize monthley and deadhead.

  • boxbeast
    17 years ago

    I do mulch; but if I'm watering something with bare soil that I don't want to disturb, I put my hand flat on the soil and aim the water onto the back of my hand.

  • kyplantjunkie
    17 years ago

    I also mulch my containers- usually with a finely shredded hardwood mulch. An expensive, but stricking alternative is aquarium gravel. I've used the black gravel with brightly colored tropical plants- it looks great!
    Robin

  • roseloverinsf
    7 years ago

    This is an old thread that I have found to be very informative! When mulching a container rose, is it necessary to leave a few inches of breathing space between the canes and the mulch? or is it ok to cover the entire top soil with mulch? I will be using red cedar bark from Lowes. Thanks!

  • mesembs
    7 years ago

    I would leave a space (as done around trees), but I don't actually see a large need to mulch; I don't. I am saying I would leave a space, but I am not sure if it is necessary.

  • Nick (9b) Modesto Area
    7 years ago

    All my various berry plants, citrus trees and avocado trees in containers are mulched. I haven't done this with any vegetables in containers. I might try it on a few of my hot pepper plants this year.

  • jane__ny
    7 years ago

    I mulch all my large container plants with either orchid bark or shredded mulch bark. It prevents the upper part of the soil from drying out faster than the rest of the plant. In my zone 9-10 (Florida) it shades the upper soil from the heat and baking sun. I feel it protects the feeder roots from drying out and burning from the sunlight. I do not like rocks or shells as they get very hot in the sun and do not hold any moisture.

    Jane

  • ak_ok
    7 years ago

    Palmsandsnow,

    I haven't seen that done much. I've planted hundreds of trees in my life and I've never left a space between the trunk and the mulch. I think it is perfectly fine to mulch any plant/tree up to the stem/trunk. I can't really think of anything negative that has happened or would happen because of that.

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Soils dry the same way (from the top down) whether you mulch or not ..... and feeder roots are generally not found on the surface of soils - if you find them there it's a sure bet the soil is too water-retentive and/or the grower is over-watering. Mulching slows evaporative water loss, which means it reduces the effect of evaporative cooling - which means a hotter container. Plants LIKE soils that require frequent watering, and frequent watering means frequent exchange of unwanted soil gases for fresh air.

    I don't mulch because I don't see it as a positive for the plants. If I DID mulch, I would use the same white grit (Gran-I-Grit) I used to use in the gritty mix before I started using cherrystone. It reflects a high % of light (less passive solar gain), which helps plants retain inner/lower leaves they might normally shed due to shading from above.

    If you DO mulch, whether or not you need to pull bark away from the trunk or stem depends on what you use for mulch. The finer the material, the more of a potential problem it becomes. Phloem stress regularly results from piling mulch directly against trunks/stems because trunks and stems of most plants, unlike roots, have no mechanisms enabling them to tolerate continually moist environments; and, plants must be able
    to freely exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide with the atmosphere (limiting plant gas exchange is bad form).

    W/o a healthy phloem, food can't efficiently make it's way to roots, which become malnourished ........ and you can see where that's going ...........

    Finally, piling mulch against stems/trunks provides the moist incubation period many harmful fungi (Phytophthora and Armillaria come to mind) need to multiply.

    In the long run, the plant would be happier and the potential for complications related to mulching containers wouldn't even be in the picture if we forgo the mulch.

    Al

  • Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    This was just a proof of concept test in a greenhouse setting before conducting field trials, but it seems to indicate mulching containers can increase growth rates.

    https://m.facebook.com/groups/200375441489?view=permalink&id=10154465053231490

  • Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
    7 years ago

    Also, there is some research in the works that hasn't been published yet that is purported to show that coarse mulches against tree trunks is actually beneficial.

  • mesembs
    7 years ago

    ak_ok:

    It may just be the area difference... Around where I live, the mulch is mounded pretty high... sometimes around a foot deep next to the trunk. If you do it that deep right next to the trunk, it will choke the tree, and basically acts as if you had planted the tree a foot too deep.

  • mesembs
    7 years ago

    Oh, and thanks tapla for explaining that. (I saw the post after I had finished mine lol)

  • tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
    7 years ago

    You're welcome.

    Al