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| How PRETTY Al!! I just love the cute little frog! How right you are...Hi, right back at you! Thanks for the colorful and pretty picture. Happy 4th Everyone!! |
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| Trying the 5-1-1 mix this year for the first time and everything seems to be quite happy. Thanks for all the useful info.
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- Posted by yellowthumb 5a Ontario (My Page) on Thu, Jul 2, 09 at 21:49
| Hi Al, The pine tree besides the big toad looks really interesting. It looks like a giant bonsai. |
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| Pinus densiflora 'Pendula', aka weeping Japanese red pine. It's only been in the ground for about 3 years & it's a pine that's slow to establish, so I've done precious little pruning. I'll be able to be a little more aggressive in its training next year. I planted it too close to the flag light though - it already blocks some of the light. Oh well .... ;o) Al
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- Posted by tn_veggie_gardner 6 (My Page) on Fri, Jul 3, 09 at 0:28
| haha...that big toad is cool. |
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| So pretty and I love all your frogs. And a happy "Hi" back at you. |
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| Al, did you purchase that large toad/frog or is that a hypertufa project? |
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| It's a resin toad from 'Toad Hollow' (they make a family of 'head planters' that's whimsically cool, too). Cut/paste & see the Muggly Family: http://thefamilystore.net/ToadHollow_Mugglys.htm Cut/paste - see the super jumbo toads half-way down the page: http://thefamilystore.net/ToadHollow.htm It's an old one - lots of knock-offs available now, but I don't know if you can find them that big. The little flat guy under him used to have a thermometer attached so you could hang it on the wall, but I need another thermometer like I need a hole in the head, so the thermometer went bye and the flat frog got appropriated as a garden prop. Everyone giggles at it when they see it. I WISH I was that talented ... to be able to make a toad like that from hypertufa. ;o) I'm not very artistic - took me over 10 years to develop a decent eye for bonsai, and at times I still struggle mightily. Al |
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I WISH I was that talented me too. I hate some of your container displays simply because they work so well together. And the whimsical stuff you add for effect... beyond me. I am still stuck on the stage of trying to get plants to perform optimally, nevermind how they look together ;) Still, I was in love with this giant, unpainted frog/toad thing at Wal-Mart this year, but they wanted $40 for it and I was like 'Dude, this is Wal-Mart, it should be less'. I waited for it to go on sale and it simply sold out. LOL. One of these years. The best I could do was this sad looking turtle trying to say hi. |
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- Posted by flyingfish2 9 or 10 (My Page) on Fri, Jul 3, 09 at 18:42
| Justaguy, my brain must be more like yours, function over form is all I seem to know. Tapla, nice pics. bernie |
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- Posted by sprtsguy76 Santa Clara Ca. 9b (My Page) on Fri, Jul 3, 09 at 20:04
| Well its about time we get some pictures from A1 and jag. Alright now lets see your SWC's pictures. Damon |
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| Beautiful containers, Al. My container planting has always been a failure as I always ended up having only one or two species taking over the rest, so that the container looked monotonous!!! What's the trick besides the right mix, Al? Xuan |
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- Posted by yellowthumb 5a Ontario (My Page) on Sat, Jul 4, 09 at 17:17
| Hi Al, It's the first time to see your plants. You don't just know your mix, you have the sense of beauty as well. I like all the arrangement of your container plants. They are stunning. But what inspired me the most today is your bonsai benches. I have so many containers which I have to put them here and there, some on the lawn directly which will destroy the grass in the long run. The bench is really a terrific way to organize the containers. Did you make it yourself? Could you show more pictures of it? |
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| Stunning work! I want you as my neighbor!!! Your pictures are encouraging in the midst of our 100+ temperatures. Happy 4th to ALL . . . |
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| What a beautiful garden Al, do people stop and stare as they drive by? Many accidents out front??? I don't have any garden frogs, but I bought myself a little gnome, and he talks to me if I press his button! I turned off the motion detector... you can see him on my home page... Ok, off to go find a recipe for the oodles of swiss chard I harvested today (from the garden plot, not a swc :( ) |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pam's Garden 2009.
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| Thanks for the tour Al. Very very nice! filix. |
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| Al, you're "bad", killing us with all your gorgeous containers!!! But... do show more :-) Xuan |
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| Your cart looks like a modified machine shop cart designed for working on transmissions. A great use for it and a real back-saver. Thanks for sharing your solutions for gardening problems. Al |
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| Thanks, Xuan. I'm at work now, but I'll dig around in my pics & see if there is something else to share. ;o) Hey, Al. It's some such thing as you suggest, that Northern Tool peddles to repair shops or anyone who wants to buy them. I think it set me back about $100 a few years back, so I don't know how much it would be now. I bet you could find one at Harbor Freight and not have to worry about the shipping. I built the box on top of it. I keep the most commonly used bonsai tools in the drawer & most of the common sizes of wire I use for wiring trees hang on the outside of the box. It's a really handy gardening/bonsai accessory. You KNOW you want one. ;o) Al |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (My Page) on Mon, Jul 6, 09 at 14:38
| Strong work Al!!! Absolutely beautiful...I am envious of your frogs..Not the fact that I have none, but of the contentment seen on their faces in your beautiful yard and their wonderful surroundings! Thanks for helping us to be just a successful as you..:-) Mike |
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| Phenomenal pics, I really like that blue spruce |
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| Wonderful plants and color combinations. I love the blue spruce too. Your dog is beautiful! He looks like such a sweetheart. Marlene |
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| Al, I bet I would enjoy his company! You have a wonderful bond with Ticen and I hope you have lots more quality time together. We have a senior cat who we treasure and hope to have with us for as long as possible. |
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| Al, I need some salt, please pass me that salter!!! It looks so cute. Please take good care of Ticen so he can stay with you many many more years and don't let him go. Dogs have a very special place in my heart. I love them all. Thank you for sharing. Xuan |
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- Posted by organic_dusty 9 (My Page) on Thu, Jul 9, 09 at 21:52
| Al, Thank you so much for showing us your beautiful garden:) I love your doggy. He is just gorgeous. You are blessed to have him for so long and so I don't have to tell you to enjoy every minute you have with him. We are dog lovers too and have 2 dobbies, a male and female and we love them like children. Thank you for giving him first Billing on the Garden Web. Dusty |
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| I guess threads like this are why I need to check the forum more often. So amazing and creative. Love all your photos. Are you sure you didn't take them out of a gardening magazine! Ha! What talent you have. |
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| Then it's a mutual admiration society - (I just looked at the pictures she emailed of her garden - beautiful!) Thanks for the sentiments about my pal, too, Huttnem, Xuan, and Dusty. You are each very kind. It's no wonder that I enjoy this forum so much. ;o) Thanks again!! Al |
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- Posted by kathi_mdgd 9 S.Ca (My Page) on Fri, Aug 7, 09 at 16:15
| OH Al,your containers are lovely,wish i were your next door neighbor,and love your dog.I have a streptocarpella,that i've had for many years and i find them hard to find anymore as well.I just repot mine every couple years ans so far so good. Love your color choices in the planters,and all your little garden frogs and toads.TFS |
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| Thank you to Kathi for bumping this thread! Al, I'm a complete noob so forgive a (dumb) question but are the containers with the fuschia and coleus perennial plantings? I'm taking notes on your color and texture combos for inspiration come spring planting time! The streptocarpella photo launched me back into a massive fit of nostalgia. I had a gorgeous specimen a long time ago, I think I'll need to track one down again soon... |
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| Thanks, guys. ;o) I keep some tender perennials over winter under lights, but room is at such a premium that they usually lose out to the bonsai trees. I have a friend that found streptocarpella at one of my usual greenhouse haunts this year, but darned if I could find them. I s'pose I should've asked. ;o) Have (easy) more than 100 frogs & toads - some in their little inconspicuous hidey holes & some right out where they can be easily seen. They're kind of fun. The Streptocarpella responds really nicely to pinching, & off-shoots from the stems you pinch are usually blooming their heads off again within a week. It strikes me as a very feminine plant, and I think that's why I like it so much - that, and it's so easy to grow & keep tidy. It comes soo easily from cuttings, too Alison - I treat the Coleus & Fuchsia like annuals, even though they're perennials. It's just too much effort (for me to want to make) to over-winter them here. Al |
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| I'm glad this thread re-appears :-o) Al, I see that all your frogs/toads etc. look right at home in your garden beds. How was that done? Is there any rules to place them (or any other garden decorations) in the bed? I have some small animals (frogs, toads, deers, etc.) but... they always look out-of-place wherever I put them :-o(. Please share. Many thanks. Xuan |
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| Lol - I don't know what to say. It's kind of hard to get a frog with a fishing pole & a toad holding a bouquet of balloons to look right at home in your garden. ;o) The whimsical stuff I don't try to make look natural. I just put it someplace where it will be seen as part of a theme, but the little guys that sort of look like the real thing - like real frogs & toads, I look for little hidey holes where a toad might take refuge, or put them where they might be partially obscured. I'll put them in the shade next to a planter or by a tree trunk, anywhere that looked natural. Maybe that part of it has something to do with the thousands and thousands of hours I spent afield in nature as a youth and young man. When you walk through the gardens, you see all the obvious, big frogs & toads, and maybe a FEW of the more natural ones. It's only after you really start looking closely, that you start to see all the smaller, more natural looking little guys waiting to surprise you. If you ever get to Michigan, Xuan ..... ;o) YPA |
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| Ok, Al. I guess it's just something you've gained from years of observation of nature. These containers are my "best" with those decoration stuff. What do you think? Thanks for your comments. Xuan |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Tue, Oct 19, 10 at 15:28
| Hello Al~ I've been browsing old threads looking for new ideas for our yard. Were getting rid of a car which is going to open up a huge growing area for me! DH is so pleased with how all of our plants have done this season in your mixes, he's interested in more plants and landscaping too! Can you tell me what the lacy looking plant is , in the basket, hanging on the blue wall? It kinda looks like a coleus. I would love to find some of that!! I'll be back later, and maybe add a pic or two to this thread. |
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| Sorry to hear about your toads... what is wrong with people today... stealing a toad? How petty. I'll keep you in mind when I'm out and about flea marketing, Al... I see some interesting garden ornaments sometimes. We usually shop after the flea markets, to re-supply the barn and house, so if I see a toad or frog in my travels that looks similar, I'll grab one for ya! Your containers and bonsai photos are so awesome, Al! Mine did terribly outdoors this year... I know the heat didn't help, plus we were away for a while helping my son put together his wedding and attending all the events associated, and I know they suffered in my absence. I had two really big moss baskets loaded with annuals. Usually, they do really well, filling out beautifully over the summer and lasting into fall... but this year, I just couldn't devote the time they needed. Oh well... maybe next year! Coleus is such a wonderful filler plant for arrangements, but it does equally well as the star of the show. I can't wait to see everyone's container gardens next year! Hey, JoJo! Good to see you again! :-)
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Tue, Oct 19, 10 at 18:55
| Al: I love this thread....I was wondering if you ever found another "flattie frog"? Jodik, did you ever find any at the flea market? My mother bought me a frog, but not anywhere near as cute as Al's..She got me one a week after she read this thread...Her favorite is the one on top waving hello surrounded by all those beautiful flowers... I love this thread and thank you for all the info and fun on it..I remember seeing how well the plants are doing in the gritty mix, especially the succulents, and now, when I look at mine, especially my jades, I can only thank you for helping me grow them when I could never.. Take a look at the succulents forum, under "jade pictures", and you will see the success I have had because of your help..:-) Thank you... |
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| No flattie - I just posted that post tonight. I was waiting for YOU to find me one! ;o) Al |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Wed, Oct 20, 10 at 0:13
| Al~ I'm so sorry to hear someone took that frog! :( That one was DH's favorite. I know how you feel, after losing solar lights this summer. I'm almost afriad to plant anything of value in my front yard, near the road. I'll be watching for you, that's for sure. JJ |
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| Al, Really enjoyed these pics, thanks for posting them. How did you shape the blue spruce? It's toadally awesome ! ! ! Nate |
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| I, too, like a thread to keep going that just contains flotsam and jetsam from the minds of our members... greetings, happenings, stuff other than serious gardening. It's fun, and a great way to start the day! It's also a great place for those pictures that don't really fit anywhere else... our beautiful attempts at taming Mother Nature! A while ago, I kept hearing stories about people having expensive orchids stolen from their yards, from trees where they'd hang for the summer. I also heard some tales of thieves ripping rose bushes right out of peoples' front yards, right out of the ground! And now, Al's stolen frogs! What is the world coming to when you can't even plant something nice in your own yard, for fear someone will hike it? How ridiculous! How petty, really! We're kind of lucky in that we live so far out in the boonies that practically no one knows we're here... there's very little traffic, mostly local. We have lots of resident dogs, too. I never leave any large items out near the road as temptation, like wheelbarrows or large garden tools. I'd be devastated if someone invaded our gardens or yard and stole something. It's not just the frog that's gone... it's the very personal feeling of being invaded that you're left with. It's eerie, creepy. But anyway... I've got my eyes open for cute, flat amphibians. On a painful note, I overdid it about a month ago and damaged my back further, including sciatic nerve damage. My own fault, really... I forced myself to move a wheelbarrow filled with damp sand. I didn't think it was that heavy at the time... I should have known better. It's incredibly frustrating when your body fails you. Age combined with permanent injuries tend to limit what you can do, but when there's no one else to help, you try to do it all yourself. It's angering to have to limit what I do... I feel so useless and helpless. I want my old body back! The young one that wasn't damaged by disease and accident injuries! I could just scream, I'm so frustrated! I have so much to do before frost gets here, and I'm so far behind! I was caught up... until I wrestled with the sand! So, anyway... I did get some help a few days ago... a couple of guys with good backs were hired to help, and they stripped the sod for a new rose bed. We have a bucket tractor, so the amendments can be moved easily (so why didn't I get someone to move the sand with it then, you might ask?) Um... I'm impatient at times? My point was, I can now get the last of the plants in for this year, throw some mulch over the bed, and call it a day. Then comes the task of storing all the garden ornaments, and moving all the potted items into the garage for winter. I have the baby pools all ready to accept them. I group them in the pools, and it seems to help, keeping them slightly off the concrete in the plastic pools. 8:11 am... time to take the dog out, and get ready for another day... Have a good one, y'all! :-)
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Wed, Oct 20, 10 at 10:03
| Al~ Thanks for the name of the plant. I will keep my eye out for it. I'm looking for plants that will be easy to press for craft reasons, and that sure is a nice one! I'll try and get pics of the other 3 i have later today. I have a neat chocolate coleus! Jodi!! I too would love to see this thread continue! Al~ JJ |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Wed, Oct 20, 10 at 10:10
| What better way to say 'Hi!' indeed! Good morning, everyone! It's great to see all the old faces....! ;) Al, Mike, JoJo, Nate joining us, too, and anyone else that I missed! Josh |
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| Thanks for watching out for me, JJ. The little flattie was one of the more whimsical things in my garden, so I was very disappointed .... Some people get such pleasure out of stealing other peoples fun - that's depraved. Nate - the spruce is Picea pungens 'Globosa Nana'. I just picked an imaginary line about 12" above where the top of the plant was when I acquired it. As the growth reached that line, it was truncated - like a flat-top haircut. After the flat top was established, I worked on getting the top perfectly circular and reducing the thickness of the foliage pad by removing foliage from the underside. The plant in the picture needs pruning badly - I'll see if I have a more recent picture after I get home. I'll look for a picture of what everyone calls my 'comma' plant, too - a Juniperus horizontalis (blue rug) that I grafted to a volunteer J. communis trunk. Jodi, Jodi - when are you going to get better? I wish I was closer so I could pitch in in the garden - and you know that's not just talk. ;-) Cool pics, JJ, and 'HI', Josh. I'm not sure why the thread sank before - didn't bother to think about it, I guess. Forums have been slow lately, but hopefully others will join in with pictures & chatter. There're plenty of friendly faces around, eh, Josh? Al |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Wed, Oct 20, 10 at 11:43
| Absolutely! And I, too, am sorry to hear about your frog, Al. Maybe I'll post a pic of my frog-friends a little later.... Josh |
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- Posted by drudadunat 9b Tampa FL (My Page) on Wed, Oct 20, 10 at 12:12
| This is my first time seeing this thread. Al, what a breathtaking garden you have with so many unusual plants. I bet it's wonderful to walk through it. I don't know how you find the time to take care of all of it, plus answer so many posts here. You must be Superman! Darlene |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Wed, Oct 20, 10 at 12:30
| "What is the world coming to"? Jodik, a "froggie frog world"..! You are not kidding....Over the summer, I saw someone trying to steal this huge 'Duke Jasmine" that can takes years to grow, right off of someones porch..I scared him off..Thank goodness my yard is hidden from public, although it would be nice to show off our beauties, like we do with Christmass lights...Those get stolen too..Talk about eerie, creepy...Someone broke into a mosolium up the street from me and stole the ring off a dead womens finger..It is crazy.. Jodi, I too would help you..Too bad we all didn't live much closer...We could all be there..You get better and and see if you cna find a good message therapist.. Jojo, wowowowoow...I think your son will be looking for a username soon and joining this forum...Those cactus and succulents are gorgeous! To think that you only have a small about of gritty mix left scares me...Great job! Al: Did you shape the pine that is half moon shaped?Beautiful. You have so many pictures here for me to pick a favorite, I just can't..I also wanted to let you know that your BEST FRIEND, your commrad is a most wonderful and handsome dog..I am so sorry he is no longer with you..:-(((( No one can at least ever steal your good memories of him Al.. Thankyou for that picture.. I can not help but look at all the beautiful pictures and appreciate that someone took their precious time to show us how to do just so and not just look at others with envy anymore..I love it, and all my friends here!
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Wed, Oct 20, 10 at 12:35
| Sheesh, Hi JOSH!! How are you? Good to see you here..You must be getting better weather than me now, since our side of the country is below normal and for days!! Mike |
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| Al, so sorry to hear about Ticen...but it sounds like he's in a better place... |
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| Thanks very much. I knew I would miss him a lot. He was born a gentleman & remained that way always. Al |
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| Hello friends. Al, I'm so sorry to hear about your Ticen, so so sorry indeed. Jodi, it's been a long time and I'm so happy to see you again. I hope your health will improve. Here's a photo of my "miniature" garden to say "HI" again. Xuan |
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| First... I so appreciate all the wonderful offers and good thoughts! I know you'd all come and help if we all lived closer, and just that thought makes me feel better. It certainly brings a big smile to my face, and a warm feeling to my heart. :-) JoJo, that's a lovely cacti/succulent collection! The flower is really pretty! I'm glad you got your computer fixed... I know how it feels to be offline involuntarily! Mike, I have the best massage therapist... my husband! He does great deep tissue massage with warm oil, and it's really helping. I'm lucky to have such a talented husband. The sciatic is getting a lot better... I just have to remember to take it easy so I don't re-injure it. I'm itching to get out there and get finished for the season, but not at the expense of my back and hip. This is the worst pain I think I've ever felt, and I don't want to go through it again! Some of the planting can wait. Xuan! So wonderful to see you again! I hope all is well with you and your lovely family. Such beautiful plantings! I love the photos! How are your orchids and other beauties doing? I always enjoy seeing your pictures... they're so inspiring! Al, you do wonders with plant material... and you're not bad with a camera, either! ;-) How many hours a day do you suppose you put in to creating and maintaining all your awesome plantings? I love your yard! I can imagine your neighbors are either jealous, or just adore living in the neighborhood, and can't wait to see what each spring will bring! The flattop spruce is really interesting! I just love how neat and tidy and wonderfully weed free everything is... it's perfection! Is that Gaura in the blue pan? It's really airy and light, a nice addition! Your gentleman companion looks so sweet and serene, so loving... you can just tell by the picture. I know you miss him... as canine breeders, we've been there more times than we care to remember, and it never gets easier. But the great memories and all the wonderful years shared are worth a little pain. At least, that's how I feel. I've been so lax this year, I didn't even get around to pinching the mums in the front bed. I usually pinch them, taking out the soft tips about three times during the season to help keep them mounded and nice and bushy... kind of like your mint plants. In any event, the mums look fine without pinching this year, much to my surprise. The extra height actually helped them peek above the miniature rose and the daylily in front. Well, it's getting late... time for sleep. I hope everyone has a pleasant tomorrow! I've really enjoyed all the great pictures everyone has shared! I've got some photos on my camera of the last roses of the season... I'll try to get them posted tomorrow. Happy Gardening, Y'all!
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- Posted by jojosplants Az Z9 (My Page) on Fri, Oct 22, 10 at 0:40
| Hi Everyone! Thanks you all for the kind words about my son's planter. I have told him, and he's thrilled! (and sends his thanks) He's been gardening with me 10 yrs. now,(he turned 13 this summer) and has his own collection of plants, That all must go in "Al's Gritty" as he puts it. :) Were going to work on repotting them all into it this weekend. Mike, Jodi~ You know how much I wish I lived closer too. But something tells me if we were to get togehter, the only thing we'd get accomplished is getting into trouble. lol ;) I wish travel was cheap and easy! Would be so nice for all of us to be able to vist! Al~ The mint looks great! ;) Xaun~ Al~ We all got a big laugh out of the frog up to his eyes in snow! :) Around here, he'd have a sun tan. ;) Jodi~Josh~Waiting for pics. ;) Everyone else? Would love to see some pics! :) Now, off to finish my tea (chocolate ;) .. |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Fri, Oct 22, 10 at 12:49
| OMG!! Jodi: Jodi: That is so nice..Those roses are so beautiful! My mother is in love with the Orange colored rose, and the Coco one..After all the pain you have been in, look at what your doing...You are a trooper and I am proud of you...I can't wait to see the others.. Al: Is that "Rose" on the same shelf as the Portulacaria afra bonsai is on? If so, I love it! You should see the one you gave me growing in the gritty mix..I did post it on the succulents forums...I hoped you had seen it..I can always post another picture of it here..It looks so happy.. Josh: Yes, as with Jojo, I am still waiting for pictures too..I would love to see your fern, a few jades, and your Moro here...Please.. Xuan: Do you ever have ugly looking plants? They seem so happy where you live and the flowers and colors, amazing..I love the succulent gardens you have..How you get your jades to do so well there amazes me.. Jodi: Please be careful with the back..It looks like you have a job ahead of you...Fun it can be though..:-)Man, those roses are so different and the hard work worth the reward..No blemish on them and so bright! Jojo: Your son would fit right in here..I am not sure about the cactus side though...lol Take care everyone for now...Where is Josh and Pug, two favorites, two of our great friends??! Al, I won't even look at that frog buried up to it's head...Nope, don't even want to think about it..I would rather see it sitting under a palm tree next to you with you with a drink in hand...:-) Mike
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Fri, Oct 22, 10 at 14:26
| Hi Al, Susan here with a question. I'm trying to put two pieces of information together: one is the gorgeous picture towards the beginning of this thread of the succulents in a very shallow container and the other is a tidbit I think I picked up from you somewhere in the past few days that in general a deeper container is better than a shallower one. I would like to pot some succulents into flattish containers but am wondering if there is an extra trick to making it work or ....heck I won't even try to fill in the rest of the dialog. Thanks |
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Fri, Oct 22, 10 at 17:30
| Ah, it was the "succulents in the gritty mix" that got my attention, and obviously you have answered my question. So far the nearest sources of Turface and crushed granite look to be at least 50 miles from me, so....I'm working on finding stuff that will work.... Seems my pumice bits are too big as is my Pigeon Grit....although I'm sure they will be useful for something.... Susan |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Fri, Oct 22, 10 at 18:47
| ROFL!!!! Love the little guy Al! Mike, |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Fri, Oct 22, 10 at 18:50
| Al, a little note to tell you know that my mom and you must be soul mates over the lost of a dog she didn't even know..He was so beautiful and she could feel your pain in your posting. I cried for you Al,Mike's Mom. I am sorry for you. |
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Fri, Oct 22, 10 at 19:27
| I'm 50 miles north of San Francisco. I found the Turface (will pick it up tomorrow) very close by. Now I am confident that I will also find the crushed granite without having to drive to south of SF. It will just take a bit more telephone fortitude on my part.... |
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| Oh Al, how I love that "succulent planting" you were holding in your hand! How did you do that? I want to grow something like that, too...:-( Mike: you asked if I ever have ugly-looking plants? Sure, and many of thems, too. But you know, I just... hide them away in the corner so no-one can see. Thanks so much for your kind words. I want to share with you a photo of the "coffee-corner" in my "tropical" garden, down in Ho Chi Minh City. Just something different, from this side of the globe. Hope you enjoy the photos. Xuan |
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| Al, The sluice handle is from an early gardening project. It started out as a long rectangular raised bed, and later I decided to leave the ends open. I'm not a prospector, but I do enjoy searching for conifer grafting material in the mountains (brooms and unusual forms). Thanks for the additional pic of the flat-top spruce and pruning tips. The comma juniper is very,, very,,, nice! What dwarf conifers are you growing in the hypertufa trough? Nate |
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| Susan, I'll also offer that many small cacti and succulents seem to have small/shallow root systems, so shallow dishes will work in that respect, too. And sometimes, it's more about the visual impact... like with annual arrangements; you might plant them in a container that isn't so great for long term health, but for one season it looks great in visual presentation! Xuan, you live in the perfect climate for growing such lush planting! Your gardens always look so inviting, and I know they must love the humidity! Here, we fight to grow in periods of intense dry, and periods of hot and humid or cold and damp! Rarely is the weather perfect! :-) Believe me... I know how hard it is to prepare, plant, and then maintain huge beds like the ones we are attempting! Five years ago, I began with a blank slate here, and I stripped sod, double dug, amended, and planted several gigantic beds. The trick, I think, is to do the work to prepare the beds properly in the beginning, and then to keep a thick layer of mulch over everything. If you do that, then maintaining them is relatively easy. It's the edging that drives me nuts, with grasses and creeping charlie trying to take over, infiltrating the beds and creeping over the designated edge! I try to use bricks, stones, and other materials as edging, which helps to some extent... but I'm only one person, and it is a lot of work to keep everything looking perfect. Plus, as time goes by, my body fails me more, and each year it seems I am forced to do a little less. I'm a big one for allowing mixed borders to evolve on their own. Once a mix of spring blooming bulbs and perennials is planted and mulched, it becomes a task of just replacing what doesn't make it... and letting everything else colonize... with a bit of trimming here and there. If I did everything by the book, I'd never be able to maintain so many large beds with so many plantings! Once put together, though, I allow Mother Nature to have her way. Some perennials form thick cover that weeds can't penetrate, and some rely on reseeding for the following generations... like the Foxglove, and the Pineapple Sage. We're all about roses, so those are the backbone of many beds. In between the roses, we plant staples that we know will do well, such as Daylilies, Iris, Siberian Iris, Columbine, and Gaillardia. For early color we tuck in bulbs, such as tulips, daffodils, and especially alliums, which many animals don't care for. The allium keeps them from destroying other plants. Mike, there are plenty of flawed roses in the gardens... I try to choose the nicest ones to photograph. We grow everything as organically as we can, so we do have our share of rose eating bugs and caterpillars! By the heat of mid-summer, there are many roses that look quite pitiful, either through the munching of bugs and deer and rabbits, or through the fungi and molds from rain and the dampness, like blackspot. Some roses are resistant, and some suffer until the cooler weather of autumn. Own root roses do much better than grafts, though. Al, as always your plants and mixed plantings are just gorgeous! I've always wanted to try my hand at hypertufa, but then I remind myself that I have enough projects going on! I also want to do some gazing ball tile work, as in creating a sparkly gazing ball out of an old, abandoned bowling ball by covering it with mirrored tile pieces, and I want to make my own decorative stepping stones, too, perhaps with pressed leaf patterns... some day! (sigh) Well, I did reset the camera, and I did take new photos... I just haven't gotten around to uploading them yet. Today. I'll do it today. In the meantime, have a great day, everyone!
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- Posted by jojosplants Az Z9 (My Page) on Sat, Oct 23, 10 at 18:35
| Hello Everyone! I am sure enjoying all the pictures! Xaun, thanks for posting yours! Everything is beautiful and I always look forward to seeing your plants! Jodi~ Josh, Mike, where are your pictures?? :) Al~ Well... back to work for me. I have a friend coming over tonight to use the puter, and I plan to show her this thread! :) She's decided next year to try the mixes for her plants, based on how well mine are doing this season. Take care guys! |
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Sat, Oct 23, 10 at 19:27
| Sheesh....two of you (Al and Jodi) have posted pictures of Hot Cocoa, and......I gotta have her. Are yours "own root"? And if so, who did you get them from. All my 200 or so roses are own root, and almost all of them are from Vintage Gardens, but this year I ordered four new ones from Cliff Orent atEuro-Desert, and now I'll order HC whereever I can find her. Own root, however, is a reqiurement. |
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| Thanks Al for the instructions. I've a "spronge" (?) rock and maybe I'll try to apply your instructions to plant some succulents. Jodi & Mike: Thank you for your kind words re my gardens. Living in tropical and sub-tropical climates, sometimes I have to "endure" a wild garden, especially now after the rainy season. You don't want to see the weeds I'm having here! Xuân |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Sat, Oct 23, 10 at 21:49
| Al: My mother was grateful for your hug! Ok, let's face it, I too am not about to show you all a picture of my only sad looking plant..lol...You should see my "orchid" busting out in flowers though...Ok..I think I am due for some pictures too..I will work on some tomorrow..You said something that was very enlightening Al...I never thought of my plants as Kids that have yet to grow up! No wonder they perform better as they get older.. What a cute little helper..Being in your company, she has a great head start to make many plants very happy..She is so cute! I also love the picture"from a bunny's perspective"! So cool..Very nice..You never realize what bugs and animals see when walking or hovering around your yard..At least you hope the good bugs are the only ones that consider your yard inviting..lol Is that a Christmass cactus I see there? Beautiful! Xuan: Thank you so much for that beautiful picture of the coffee corner..It looks so serene and so peaceful..I wish I could visit there..Even if you posted an ugly plant of yours, it would probably be one that looks better than my healthy ones!!:-) Jojo: Hello! How are you..I will work on it tomorrow and wait till you see a plant that Al made possible for me to keep healthy from the beginning of coming here, from when I first started to get to know him and understand his offerings! Good night..Where is Josh anyway? Jodi...My mom is sitting here telling me that she wants to walk through your yard with you, in fact Al's too, and just spend time with you all..She is so in love with your roses and Al's little plants and frogs! My sister just loves that Hot Cocoa one! Hard to believe that you can suffer so much pain, and yet be so successful in growing some of the most beautiful roses we have seen..I wish you were much healthier to do so much more as your heart wants too..But for what you have done, it is a huge accomplishment and something to be proud of...I wish I could pack up my glass ball and send it to you..It is huge.. Have any of you ever grown a plant in Lava Rock? You just sink it in water to moisten the roots...I have seen Bonsai plants in this..I also saw Bonsai plants in hand made Clay Balls with moss on them..Huge clay balls, at least 8 inches in diameter..I think the Chinese grow many this way,very interesting.. Hi Landperson: Funny you would ask the same question as my mother..She loves that one..It is so different..Welcome here with us all..:-) Sluice: Have a good night and thank you for the nice comments.. Goodnight everyone... Pug, miss you here! Mike
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Sat, Oct 23, 10 at 22:13
| Thanks, Mike, glad to be here. Your comment about plants growing up reminded me of the answer a worker at Vintage Gardens always gave when asked "when is the best time to plant a rose?": "20 years ago...." Susan |
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| Yes, Susan... the majority of our roses are own-root. Grafting gives an edge to production, but it does nothing for the rose, or the rose customer. Own-root allows for better health, better adjustment to climate, etc... in fact, we have several zone 6 roses growing in our zone 5 gardens, so in many cases, you'll gain a zone with own-root plants. You won't have to worry about protecting that graft. In our garden, roses must be able to survive with a good layer of mulch and not much else. Our winters are often frigid, plunging below zero, but I refuse to coddle my plants. We have too much to do to worry about wrapping with burlap, or covering, or digging and laying in trenches, etc... and styrofoam rose cones are worthless. Our roses get a nice thick layer of mulch, and that's it. We may tie errant canes together so they're not flopping in the wind, but other than that, we do nothing. In spring, I want to prune a little dead wood, maybe do some shaping, and move on to the next plant. This is a farm-ette with horses, goats, fowl, dogs, a hunting lodge, pasture and hay fields, and extensive gardens... I don't have time to baby anything! The majority of roses sold in our area originate in Texas, are grafted, and come from J&P. The majority won't last through one winter. But stores still sell the heck out of them because people don't know any better. I'd rather spend a little more and get healthy own-root roses that will thrive in my zone, than spend $12 or less and have to replace the darn things every spring. Tea roses are not for zone 5... but stores push them, and people buy. They neglect to research, usually. There are many roses available today for the northern gardener... but you won't find a good selection at your local home improvement store! Vintage has nice roses... Heirloom has an excellent selection, link below. In time, so will we. That's our goal... to offer a fine selection of old garden and hard to find antique roses, all own-root, which are impossible to find in our area. Don't count out species types, miniature varieties, or ground cover types, either... they have definite places within a garden! My criteria for choosing a rose are own-root, hardiness zone, health/disease resistance, type, bloom time, scent, and the color and shape, of course... in that order. Mike, I don't know the name of that rose offhand... you mean the purplish ones, correct? That's actually two types of roses next to each other. If that's the picture you mean, I'll find names for you. Hot Cocoa is one of my favorites because it's color is unlike anything I've come across. It's also a continual bloomer, and it's fairly resistant to disease. We have two of this variety growing in our gardens, and it's proving to be a good choice. Climbing White Iceberg is another that's earning a place in our gardens. Bugs like to eat the leaves, but the blooms are spectacular. Pure white, very symmetrical, and nicely scented. So far, some of my favorites are Quadra, Autumn Damask, Betty Prior, Hot Cocoa, Green Ice, Carefree Beauty, New Dawn, Enigma, and the Canadian Explorer series, plus many of the Bucks. I could go on and on, adding many more to my favorites list, but those are probably the top. You can't go wrong with Knockouts or roses from the Flower Carpet series. Both are very hardy, and both require little in the way of work. Xuan, I would imagine that the constant humidity could also be an annoyance... it would limit many plant types. It's funny... those of us in one climate type want to grow plants of another climate type! I'd love to grow more orchids, but my environment simply won't support them. Phals and Dens do fine, and don't seem to mind our drier air. Catts and other types don't want to grow here, requiring different humidity. I can't keep a constant humidity... not without purchasing a humidifier or having a nice greenhouse. But I can grow many plants that wouldn't work in a different climate, like deciduous plants, so it's a trade-off. But we always want what we can't have! :-) My two great loves in growing are bulbs and roses. Bulbs have always fascinated me... they're little self-contained units, kind of like batteries. And roses are something I've always loved, but never thought much about growing because of the poor selection that used to be standard fare. The rose world has changed a lot, and now anyone can locate plants bred specifically for their area. I'm still learning... and I have a long way to go... but there is a rose niche to be filled here, and we're working toward that end. Well... I've rambled enough for one morning... no pun intended! :-) Seriously, though... for those of you interested in growing roses, there are many types bred specifically for your area. Choose carefully, and you'll really enjoy growing them! Have a great day!
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Here is a link that might be useful: Heirloom Roses
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 24, 10 at 12:13
| Hello, hello, on this rainy Sunday morning! Greetings to all good folks gathered: Al, Mike, JoJo, Xuan, Jodi, Susan, and Nate! I'm impressed (and a little overwhelmed) by all of the incredible container and ground-grown plants! |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 24, 10 at 14:03
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| Oh, my! Josh, I'm so jealous! I see rose campion, and I adore how you've used ornamental grasses... wow! Gorgeous! Just gorgeous! Lovely gardens! Thanks for sharing them! Is that Amaryllis Belladonna? Or Lycoris Squamigera? I adore Naked Ladies! ;-) JoJo, great pictures! Monarda likes a little bit more moisture than I think you are able to provide. That would be my guess, anyway. But you've got great Datura, and I'm not having luck with mine... they're potted. I've had them two years, now... and no blooms. I'm about to give up. I like the moth, too... we get the large Luna Moths sometimes, and they're just beautiful! They hang out on the side of the house and fly around the yard light at night. And you have a pool... now, I'm really jealous! :-) Gosh, I'd give anything to be able to jump in a nice pool and swim after a hard day sweating in the gardens! And yes, everyones' little helpers are great! I don't have any... well, not here. The grandkids all live up north. No interest in gardening yet... but they're still young. Grandma has plenty of time to introduce them to the joys of gardening! :-) I took some new pictures this morning... but just as I was finishing up, the batteries died. I'll need to find replacements before I can upload. What a day... I haven't done much, and I'm exhausted. Maybe I need a nap... first, though, I need a shower! Pee-yoo! All I can smell is goat! There's this billy goat... and he's what you might call "musky". Ick! Great pictures, people! Keep 'em coming! I love to see how the other half gardens! :-)
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Sun, Oct 24, 10 at 19:42
| Lol..It's a good thing I have a Mack computer, it almost took me 5 minutes to get to the bottom of this thread at work! Jojo..Do I wish I was in your back yard pool! Boy does your son look so content and to think you can still go in your pool..That ended for us weeks ago..I guess you plants are lucky too...lol/...What a beautiful moth and cute bee..Sheesh, they all look quite content and happy..Those flowers are amazing...I would grow one as a house plant if that was possible.. Josh: It is about time you stop by and with gifts of beauty too! Unbelievable..You have some really unique and different plants compared to me...Is there any way you could put a picture of your Moro citrus and a moss picture to to compliment all these nice pictures...I love this thread! I see those hens and chicks by the way..Your begonia and lilies beat me by a margin..Nice! Susan, I think you made a great point! My roses that have made it after years of growing always seem to perform the best..I have yet to keep one alive in a container... Jodik, I have learned more about roses here than any book..So much I never knew, and now I know what to look for when buying! You are right. All I ever see at the box stores is grafted ones and they all claim to be hardy here..I have yet to see one come back come spring..Now I am going to go to my nursery and ask for roses on their own roots and some antiques and very hardy ones...You are right. If it requires a lot of work to keep alive, it ain't happening in my yard...Survival of the fittest in that department...Funny thing you should mention the cones...I was just looking at them at Lowe's yesterday Hi Al!!:-))))))..Still looking for unusual frogs....Wait until you see the Bonsia plant I am thinking of getting! I am so glad I know you even more.. Forgive the spelling errors in which I am sure there are many, but I had to go and couldn't go back to fix them
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 24, 10 at 20:54
| Good evening, JoJo, Jodi, and Mike! I've been out in the windy, rainy weather for most of the day! It's a nice mess up here in the foothills. Yes, those are Naked Ladies! They have the most delicate, wonderful scent...like a faint raspberry sorbet.... I'm glad you enjoy the grasses! The cats do, too...especially those tall clumps of Mexican Feather Grass! Rose Campion....more and more every year. The color is impossible to describe...eye-dazzlingly bright. Hello, Mike! Lastly, for Al, one of the drip-tray residents in my Alaskan Fern. I think I've posted this before, |
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| Hi everyone, I'm back with some photos of my orchids. Except for the first Cattleya, other orchids are being grown in my "hot" garden. I hope you like them. Xuan |
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| Xuan, those are lovely orchids... and all of them are the kinds I haven't had any luck with! They look very happy in your yard and home! Josh, I sure wish I had a nice deck like yours... it would be the perfect protected spot to keep my container plants for the summers. I also wish rose campion would survive and thrive here, but it doesn't seem to like this area. I think our winters might be a little too frigid. We finally received some much needed rain... it came late last night, and from the sound of the thunder and the loss of satellite signal, it was a doozie of a storm! I now anticipate the opening of many rose buds, which seem to have been stalled in the cool, dry weather we had before the rain. The moisture should push them to open! Mike, if I were you, I would forget about trying to convince your local stores to carry own-root, old fashioned rose varieties, and I'd watch for the sales that both Vintage and Heirloom will have... either pre-spring or during various times throughout the growing season... and I'd order them from reputable online sources. Trust me... it's worth it. But we'll talk about roses via email before the next planting season arrives. The problem with most local sources is that they're just vendors, and they often don't know much about the items they sell. And often, their corporate headquarters tell them what to order, so they have very little say in what inventory they'll receive. You'll most likely see plenty of Knockouts and Flower Carpet roses, but little else of any value in the rose department. Even garden and landscape stores offer what sells, or what's popular with the general public, and won't often carry specialty items. When I speak of filling a local niche, that's what I mean... we have a name, inventory, business cards, and everything... and we're in the early stages of becoming a local specialty for own-root old garden and hard to find roses. It's one of the reasons I've been working so hard to put together these rose gardens. We're called "Our Secret Gardens", and we sell roses locally. Next year will be especially busy for us... we're already scheduled to host garden walks for the local rose society and a couple of other groups. I've been working to put together beds that show off the different types of roses... not exactly show gardens, but more of a realistic approach... so people can see how the various plants will look in their own yards, mixed with bulbs and other perennials and shrubs. For me, it's a labor of love... I get a lot of enjoyment out of the work. We started with the idea of getting some of our input back, and then we decided that the plants would sell better if people could see what they're getting. Plus, I don't want to join the ranks of the greedy and sell any item just to make a buck... I want to test the roses and see how they do in our area. If we don't care for them, we won't offer them. A happy customer is a repeat customer, and to me, reputation is very important. So, anyway, Mike... it would be to your advantage to do some research over winter. Keep in mind your gardening zone, the areas you'd like to plant roses, and the various rose habits you have room for... some varieties can get very large! Think about the various reasons you want to grow them, how much time you plan to spend, and what colors and flower types you're interested in. Most roses require at least 6-8 hours of sun a day, although there are a few varieties that can handle a bit of dappled shade. Roses tend to be heavy feeders and drinkers, though they don't like their roots to remain wet/soggy. Deer and rabbits love to nibble, as do several kinds of insects, so they do require a little bit of effort to stay looking their best. There really are no hard and fast rules on pruning, in spite of all the different schools of thought. I usually just prune out dead canes in spring, and give some roses a little shaping, depending on how I'm using them. Dead-heading will keep many roses blooming longer, also. In cold areas, stay away from tree roses or any other grafted shapes... they're beautiful, but not made for frigid weather. Roses don't seem to like being potted, either. Once purchased, it's best to get them planted in their permanent location within the garden. I'm not saying you can't maintain potted roses... it can be done... but they prefer not to have their roots disturbed, or to have them dry out. Once you plant a rose, it seems like it can take a couple of years for them to settle in and get established... and I notice that the third year seems to bring really good growth and blooming when a rose is happy with its location and care. I've read so much about growing roses, and a lot of it makes the prospect sound complicated, but it's really not. The key is choosing the right roses for your situation. Well... it's 5:45 am... I think I should go back to bed for a while... try to get a little more sleep. My sciatic nerve is a little sore... and my desk chair is not very comfortable. Again... great pictures! I'm enjoying this thread a lot! Have a good one! :-) |
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Mon, Oct 25, 10 at 10:32
| Yesterday I found a new source for own root roses that I am trying out: Burlington Rose Nursery. Burling sells bands for $10.95, and I am going to be very interested to see them when they arrive. Most of all she was amazingly attentive all day: she sent me the availability list, then checked her inventory to see if she had what I wanted, then sent me an invoice, and will be shipping them today. How's THAT for service. Susan |
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| Very nice, Susan. I hope you're very happy with your order! What varieties did you get? You're in a much warmer climate, so your choices are a lot less limited than mine! For us, Tea roses are out of the question. But we do have less fungal issues, I think, and less issues with really hot weather. It does get hot and humid here, but not for the length of time other warmer zones suffer. From all the reading and research I've done, I think a zone 6 or 7 garden would be the perfect place for a person who loves roses. I'm stuck in a zone 5 area. But, we make do... and as time goes by, we're less limited. Rose hybridizers are working diligently to widen the field! |
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Mon, Oct 25, 10 at 13:37
| Hi Jodi. My Burlington order was for Baby Faurax (this is a replacement for one I killed a few years back), Distant Drums, Girona, Purple Buttons and Sweet Pea. As you can see I'm a gonner when it comes to mauve roses.... I already have Nimbus, Magenta, Blue Mist, Veilchenbleu, Violette, I think this 8/9 zone is easy peasy when it comes to roses. We do get a lot of blackspot and other fungal nasties in the early spring because we have so much cool rain over the winter, but it always clears up by itself because the summers are completely dry.... |
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| Lovely choices, Susan! I'm sure you'll be happy with all of them! Distant Drums is the only one out of your list that we have... all the others are for warmer zones. In fact, we have lots of Buck roses. I really don't have a preferential color... I think they're all so beautiful, I just can't make a concrete choice! I guess I probably lean toward the corals and reds, but there are such lovely pinks and whites, and such saturated yellows, and oranges... I do like the coppery oranges a lot. We have a miniature called Teddy Bear... it starts out a copper penny sort of orange, and it mellows to a lovely orangey-pink. And then there's Hot Cocoa, with it's brownish red, difficult to describe cocoa color. The bi-colors are lovely, too. And the lavender/blue/purple roses are also gorgeous! And there's the greenish tint of Green Ice! No, I don't think I could choose just one color! Or one shape, or one size, or one anything! :-) It's not a wonder that roses are such a popular and much loved garden staple. They have it all... beauty, scent, variety... they are the stuff of poetry, of paintings... a veritable smorgasbord for the senses! Sometimes, I visit Heirloom, Vintage, and other rose websites just to drool over their photos! Well... I should cut this short... we have storms moving in. Hope everyone has a nice day! |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az Z9 (My Page) on Tue, Oct 26, 10 at 10:22
| Good Morning Everyone! Jodi, I am loving all the Roses! All your TLC shows in every one of them! I'm surprised your Datura isn't blooming. Is it getting good sun? The pool was nice.:) It was also the source of alot of Boo boo's getting the yard ready for it. lol. I had to tear out a portion of my Aviary to make room for it. Now I need to put the Aviary back together, just a smaller version of what it used to be. Hello Mike! We had our neighbors grand daughter here most of the summer too. She's a great kid, and it worked out nice. A friend was here the other night to use the computer, and I had her look at this thread. :) Xuan~ Everyone have a great day! Be carful with the storms! We are cloudy, but I don't think were getting any rain. Josh~ your aim is a little off. The rain the other day stayed up in northern Arizona. We didn't get it. LOL! Take care all! |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Tue, Oct 26, 10 at 10:43
| Good morning! Xuan, your flowers are lovely! I would like to explore your gardens. So, Jodi, you're getting slammed with storms, too. Everything smells so nice once the rains have passed.... I spent all Summer sanding and re-staining the back deck, playing musical chairs with the plants. |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Tue, Oct 26, 10 at 10:52
| JoJo! Cross-posted! ;) Darn, no rain for you! We got over 5 inches....! How's that for an Autumn storm?! My little frog friends are just about to turn in for the season. I do enjoy their company. |
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Tue, Oct 26, 10 at 11:36
| Good Morning all. Sun is out !!!! Hurrah. We got the first big soaking storm of the season -- 4 inches here -- and I'm with Josh. That smell after rain is so delish !!!! And no matter how well or often I irrigate, nothing but nothing makes the plants feel better than real out-of-the-sky rain. JoJo, I'm with you -- almost all of the colors grab me, not just the mauve ones. I seem to go through phases: one year I had to have all the saturated dark reds -- Guinee, Senegal, Louis XIV, Nuits de Young; one year it was primarily the browns -- Smoky, Julia's Rose; this year it seems my eye kept going to my Talisman out front and thinking what I wanted were more "painted" roses. Sheesh....nothing can go directly into the ground anymore without a gopher basket, but that hasnt' stopped me from accumulating roses in bands, potting them up into 2.5 gallon handled buckets (from the dollar store) and promising myself I'm going to make more gopher baskets the next time it rains.... Today I'm off to buy silica sand for gritty mix so I can repot succulents.... AND, if anyone sees a source for Hot Cocoa in a band on its own root, please please tell me. I'm too frugal/tight/cheap to order it in a gallon, but I'm definitely in the market for that gorgeous rose. Susan |
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| Hi Sue copy and paste this to your browser when you have a chance http://www.weeksroses.com/zipsearch.php and try someone local. Chances are you'll get a good discount this time of the year on potted 3 gallon. Buy one get one free or 40 -50% off any in stock that sort of thing. You should know or be able to tell if there OWN ROOT or GRAFTED Yeah chances are better( even the on line places) they wont be OWN ROOT It's one of those Modern Day Fancy Hybrid Tea Rose things is my guess.Gone are the good ole days. Don't give up there's hope yet even if it is.........
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- Posted by landperson Sunset 14, USDA 8b (My Page) on Tue, Oct 26, 10 at 16:15
| I ordered one from Chamblee. Okay, okay, it's a gallon and not a band, but it IS own root, and the rose itself was still only $9. and change. Just to make myself feel a bit better about spending so much on shipping I threw in a Mardi Gras -- it's a brown/red day as you can see..... Susan |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Tue, Oct 26, 10 at 17:57
| Al, my MOTHER still can't get over the plants you have growing in the acorn, the small rock,and the salter!!! How in the word do you do it?!! I am so proud to even have you as a friend knowing that someone as smart as that has and will always be there for me...You are treasured Al!!! Thank you! Jodik....I am going to buy a couple of roses from you come spring..We shall e-mail..It would mean so much to my mother..She has a speciall place she is preparing and has been reading your advice and information, and can not believe how much you know...I am also proud of you..I hope your business works well, but I know that the happiness you'll bring to many people, especially with the walk throughs and the attention you give to the real "roses" will make you so gratified, because that is what makes you tick, care, happy and love..I am also proud to know you with deep appreciation!! You are much loved! Jojo, depressing having to close the pool! Your poor son, and now he will have to float in the bathtub for comfort..lol Jojo, I would love to see pics of the plants I sent you...I would also love to say that I am so grateful to know you too all this time..I remember a time when you knew no one here, and now, we are family!!:-)Listen, you pay my airfare, and I can be there in a week to help your family move the big cactus and bring you surprises...Just say the word..lol..I will even take you on to a bowl match!! Josh, You will miss that little frog..So darn cute! Thank you so much fro posting your pictures of the fern, and the Moro, and others..I always LOVE your pictures....Your plants are always so green and happy..I can't believe that the frost is coming so fast, and all that wind.I told you the wind is getting worst as time goes by..Today it was 75 with just a slight breeze..Weird, it felt like summer..I was out in the back yard without a shirt cleaning everything, and making room for my mom's rose garden for next year..It was great. Xuan!!!!! What can I say except that I want to see more of your pictures...I love your plants and I wish we could trade our weather..You are fantastic with what you grow! how is your gold fish doing? Suzi: Fantastic....I want some of Jodik's roses so bad too..lol..I hope you are happy with the ones you get..Please let us know.. Mrlike2u:::Beautiful pictures and such a help here and I am glad to meet you!... Jodik....Thank you thank you thank you for so much information about roses and all the pictures....I feel confident I can finally grow some now and what to do...You are a gem and inspiration for those of us who were hesitant at once...You are an amazing hard worker and very smart..I think your thank you are catching up to Al's......lol Now if there was any spelling errors, please forgive me, especially PG, since I lost track of time and couldn't go back to spell check.. Much love everyone!! Nite |
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| Hi, Guys. Haven't been able to keep up with this thread the last few days! ;o) Great frog picture, Josh. More lovely pictures from Xuan certainly deserve recognition. Glad your friend liked the thread/pictures, JJ. Did you have to drive through the same wind & rain we got today, Jodi? It's letting up now, but we had 60 MPH gusts. Mike - It's not difficult growing plants in small containers if you pick the right plants and then commit. As long as you're diligent about providing the right cultural conditions - not messing up & forgetting to water is the big one - they just grow. ;o) Al
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| Oh no Mike... you don't want to know about my goldfish plant and neither does Al! It seems I can't get it to grow properly so that it couldn't keep its own home but let a volunteered violet to take residence in its pot. Look. I'm so ashamed of my inability to make this plant grow. Can you help me out, please? Xuan |
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| Honestly, JoJo, I don't give that much TLC to the roses. I'm a firm believer in letting Mother Nature have her own way, so about all I do is plant the roses in appropriate spots, give them a little one-time boost with a granular systemic of insecticide plus fertilizer, mulch them well... and then nature takes over. If they make it, they make it... if they wane, I try to figure out why, and maybe move them to a better spot. If they don't make it... well, it just wasn't meant to be. The only pruning I do is the removal of dead wood in early spring, and as I mentioned in another post, I might shape a plant here and there to keep it within its prescribed area. Other than that, though, they're all on their own. The gardens are way too extensive to coddle any one plant. We've actually been very lucky so far... we haven't lost that many roses to our strange winters. I think we lost 2 or 3 last year... and when you consider the number of plants I've put in, that's an amazingly low percentage of loss. If I'm not mistaken, we got our first Hot Cocoa from Heirloom Roses. It's definitely own-root, and it's more of a climber. The second one may be a graft, although I wouldn't bet on it. I can't recall where we got that one. Week's possibly? I really don't know. It has more of a shrub growth habit. My partner in crime has all sorts of rose sources. She buys from private growers, large companies, small companies... where ever she can locate the roses she wants at the price she's willing to pay. Believe me... $9 plus shipping is not expensive for a healthy, own-root rose... especially fully rooted in a gallon! Some varieties go for a lot more, and the more rare it is, the higher the price! Remember... you get what you pay for! And this is especially true of roses. And, don't worry, Mike... we'll work something out. You've been very generous, and as of this moment, I owe you. We'll talk before spring. I won't forget. We'll get you hooked up with some nice plants. :-) It's almost the end of October, and I'm still planting roses! I did get behind because of sciatic trouble, but I'm starting to catch up. Whatever I don't get put in the ground will be wintered over in our unheated garage. I'll remove the plants from their bands, and repot into gallon containers. They'll winter over just fine. I think I only have about a dozen or so still in band pots. I appreciate all the compliments, but I really don't know that much about all this yet. I'm still learning! You wouldn't believe the myriad of rose names and information I've got rolling around in my brain! It gets confusing at times! Ah, yes... the weather! We awoke yesterday at about 4:30 am to high winds and rain, lots of thunder, power surges as branches along the roads hit power lines... it was really bad! We needed the rains, and an occasional bout of good wind is nature's tree pruner, so I can't really complain. The drive north was not as bad as we expected. Our doctor is in Chicago, so about every 3 months we drive up to get new prescriptions, have blood taken for the normal tests, and just your general check up type stuff... plus, we get to see Doc's dog, Rosie, a daughter of my Olde Bulldogge, Maia. The one time I don't bring my camera with me, and Buckingham fountain was working! I could kick myself! It was so beautiful... if you don't know the seedy underbelly of the city, Lake Shore Drive is a really beautiful cruise, with the city skyline, the lake, all the parks and old architecture. Anyway... the winds weren't that bad on the trip north, and the sun came out... barely a drop of rain. Trucks were on the road, and we drive a small Ford Escort station wagon... the drive was fine. It got a little windier as we neared home, but it's always windy down here... the land is flat, and there's nothing to catch or stop the winds. More great pictures! Al, your annual arrangements and garden photos are always so lovely... and Xuan, that goldfish plant is blooming, so you must be having some success with it! JoJo, I don't know what I'm doing wrong with the Brugs and Datura... I think I have both, and I think both are suffering somewhat. I've probably got them in pots that are too small... they're currently in gallons. They came in as cuttings, a gift from a friend in Texas. I stuck them in gallon pots with regular potting soil to root, and it was still too cold outside when I got them, so they rooted on a table in the basement, under lights. In the two years I've had them, they've not grown that much. They tend to drop leaves very easily. I keep them on the cement pad in front of the garage for summer... facing east. I'm sure they need a repot. If they make it through winter in the basement, I'll repot into larger containers using Al's mix. Let's see... what else? Well, I was so exhausted from the trip north that I crashed when we got home, and it's now about 4:00 am, and I can't sleep. It's a great time to catch up on reading and email, though... the house is quiet, the husband and dog are sleeping. The Boondocks is background noise... we always have a tv on. I can't sleep without it! The coffee is fresh... (_)D <- that's my cup! Pull up a mug and join me! ;-) It's only autumn, and I'm wishing for spring, already! Oh! And I figured out what the problem is with my camera... the memory card died. Luckily, I have a couple of spares. It's so nice to have a techno-geek for a husband! He's always prepared! Well... I've rambled enough again! Now that I know what's wrong with my camera, I can take more pictures to share. Hopefully, I can get a few taken and uploaded tomorrow, er, today! See ya later! Have a good one! :-)
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- Posted by drudadunat 9b Tampa FL (My Page) on Wed, Oct 27, 10 at 11:49
| Jodik, your post made me homesick ... I was born and raised in Chicago but have lived in Florida since 1983. I still miss it. Your description of Lake Shore Drive was spot on. I remember reading that the fountain was undergoing renovations ... how great that you saw it functioning! Darlene |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Wed, Oct 27, 10 at 20:52
| Wow, Jodi! You bet I enjoyed those photos! You're getting some great fall color on your Myrtles! ;) I happened to encounter this little fellow today, and I thought of Al...so this is for you, Al! And, Mike, this moss is for you, buddy! ;) |
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| 'Morning from Dalat, Vietnam. Jodi, it's always a pleasure seeing all the gorgeous plants/blooms of your garden. Here're a few shots from mine. Thanks for looking at my photos. Xuan |
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| Is that a little tree frog, Josh? We have those everywhere. I find them crawling around in the kennel all the time, and I have to be careful not to hose them down the drain! I love the mossy/horsetail picture, too... I recently took a picture of some interesting fungi growing on a tree, but I can't find it, now. That's the sort of stuff that draws my interest, too! Xuan, lovely Cosmos... and I'm not sure what the blue flower is, but it's very pretty! The mountains in the background are gorgeous, and the birdhouse and bath are really cool! I love adding those kinds of things to garden-scapes! Great photos... thanks for sharing! :-) |
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- Posted by drudadunat 9b Tampa FL (My Page) on Thu, Oct 28, 10 at 12:10
| Those medians in Chicago sound wonderful! I'd love to see them some time but not sure when I can afford a trip there. Last time I went was in March of 03 and of course nothing was blooming then and the fountain was still off. One of my favorite memories is walking through the rose gardens in Grant Park. Sigh. :-) Darlene PS -- your pictures today are gorgeous! |
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| Don't worry, Darlene... I'll get new photos taken as the seasons pass... you'll be able to see the medians on LSD, the fountain, the lake, the skyline, and all the other scenes of note in Chicago. We go up about every three months, and I usually am prepared with camera in hand! I do have some older pictures in my PhotoBucket albums... I'll see if I can locate them. My online albums are a jumbled mess of thousands of photos! Give me a day or two... In the meantime, have a good one! :-) |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Fri, Oct 29, 10 at 18:00
| Well, I posted a whole post lastnight that took me about 10 minutes to write and now it's all gone.. Jodik, Beautiful ROSES!!! And thank you Josh, Thank you for those picture gifts and if you post the Avacado tree, that will top it off..Beautiful! Xuan, YOu amaze me with such a beautious area and gorgoeus plants..Looks like your goldfish plant made a friend and seems very happy.. Drudad, you are right, Jodiks pictures are amazing! Nite everyone... Al, have you ever known anyone to grow plants in a THIMBAL? I just met a women that does..Crazy...YOur little ones are so nice...Love them.. |
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| No, Mike. Never known anyone that grew a plant in a thimble, but I have seen lots of bonsai and bonsai companion plants in thimble-size pots. Al |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Sat, Nov 6, 10 at 12:45
| Hey, Jodi! Lovely pics of the gardens as they're winding down for the long winter's sleep! Yes, the Thread is beginning to take a while to load, but it sure is worth it! I thought I'd repost an Avocado pic (a la Mike's request), as well as some front yard Fall color: |
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| Nice, Josh! Beautiful Avacado... I haven't had much luck getting one to start lately. Many years ago, I had a really nice one started... but I killed it through lack of knowledge. It got all leggy and stretched, and it eventually died. One of these days, I'll give it another try... it was a fun project. Lovely fall color, too... the color and the smell of fall in the air from the fallen leaves and such... those are my favorite parts of the season. What I don't like is that a frigid winter follows! Great pictures! |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Tue, Nov 16, 10 at 19:02
| Goodness..It took me ten minutes to find this thread..I thought it disappeared everyone.!! Jodik..I bought and saved my first avocado seed!!! Finally, and now I can not find it...I think someone threw it out..:-( Josh..Thank you for filling my request..I love that plants along with your Moro and all the jades most of all....Are they all indoors now? Al, I am sending someone over here to see your frogs..A good friend of mine,,I wanted her to meet you all...She herself has a frog too..lol I hope everyone here is well and prepared for the winter..Let's hope it is good to us this year and short..:-) Mike |
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| Did he used to be a prince? ;-) Al |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Tue, Nov 16, 10 at 21:07
| hahhaahhahahahaa We shall see...lol |
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Tue, Nov 16, 10 at 21:55
| I wish people would stop by my house and comment on my Bonsai. I put out several trees on Halloween, I thought someone would at least comment about them. No one said anything though. Jamie |
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- Posted by loveplants2 8 (My Page) on Tue, Nov 16, 10 at 22:18
| Hello Everyone... What a great post!!! I will definately have to Pop some popcorn and come back to reread this amazing post!!! Does it get any better than this? I am so impressed with all of the pictures posted...truly one of the best threads that I have ever been privey too! Mike, thank you for sending me over to say hi to Al!!! Hi Al!!! I had posted a picture for Mike and his mom..he thought you would like to see my frog...so here it is!!! Thank you for sharing your wonderful garden...like I said, I am going to have to revisit this post and really enjoy all of the true beauty here...Bravo to you all.... I couldn't help feeling for you and your beloved dog...there is noone more loyal than your best friend...He will always be with you, in the yard...by the computer...and watching you prune in the driveway...I will include my best friend... you have magical hands... Laura in VB |
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| Jamie: your bonsais looked great but I adore your dogs! I love those... they looked so cute cute cute. Thanks for sharing the photo. Xuan |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Wed, Nov 17, 10 at 10:44
| Howdy! Hello to Laura and Jamie! And hello to JoJo, Al, Jodi, Mike, Xuan, and anyone else I'm missing! ;) Mike, you're quite welcome for the pics! Most of the leaves have fallen now, Jodi, the new beds look great. I can't wait to see them brimming with color next Spring. Josh |
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- Posted by jamiedolan 4/5 (My Page) on Thu, Nov 18, 10 at 10:01
| Thanks everyone. It is very hard to imagine that snow is going to be here so soon. I have to put the finishing touches on my new plant storage room in my garage - for overwintering my container plants, Japanese Maples and Bonsai. Jamie |
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| The inner yard, where the dogs run, is filled with huge yellow and orange fallen Sycamore leaves from the two giants that flank the house... most everything else has dropped leaves, and except for a few errant roses that are clinging to their green, everything is getting ready to rest for the winter season. If you get snow, Josh, then we can't be too far behind. The storms will roll down out of the Rockies, make their way across the plain states, and as soon as Iowa reports snow, we're next! I'm hoping for a nice blanket to protect the newly planted roses. I've actually still got a few bulbs to put in... some small packages of Crocus, Tulips, and odds and ends that were in the sale bin. As long as I can work the soil, though, I can plant bulbs. A few years ago, I was still planting bulbs in December... there was a crust of frozen ground, but I was able to get them all in. They grew and bloomed beautifully the following spring. I've enjoyed this thread very much... we should begin another with the next set of photos to be posted... this one is beginning to take a while to load! It's always nice to see the seasonal changes our yards and gardens go through... the plants we all love... and our furry little companions... yes, I've enjoyed it very much! :-) I'll have to remember to buy an Avacado next grocery shopping trip... I'm willing to give it another try!
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Sun, Nov 21, 10 at 23:16
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 22, 10 at 11:18
| JoJo! Those are some great nature shots! How did you get the hummer's to hold still...I've tried and failed many a time! The Mantis are mean out this way, too. Well, we had a few snow flurries on Saturday night. Cold wind's a'blowin'! Josh |
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| My pal Max is a keen gardener - since he always wants to stick his nose into anything I am doing around the garden. He has also spent nearly ten years trying to catch a goldfish - and failed.
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 22, 10 at 18:08
| Hi Josh! Thank you! :) Honestly, that is one of my tammer hummers. I have 3 that hang around the yard all the time, even while i'm right there working. He was easier to photograph than them darn ladybugs. lol! I got on my knee's to be at his level and crawled a little through gravel to get a good shot. So my knee's are a little bruised. LOL! I love how they turned out. And he was sure enjoying that flower!! It's part of the salvia family I belive, and the blooms are like velvet! I'm glad I'm not the only one with mean Mantis! lol! They can be stinkers. :) Snow! Gosh, no thank you! Were still in the 60's, down to 59 for a high on Thanksgiving. Kevin, My little monsters would probably eat the garden, so I keep it all in the front yard. ;) A big "Hello" to everyone. :) JoJo |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Mon, Nov 22, 10 at 21:41
| I don't even know where to start..lol Kevin: AMAZING!!!! That dog of yours gives me incentive to keep going even if things are tough..Thank him for his consistent effort..lol Al, where in the world are you???????????????????????????????????????? Josh: Hello my friend! What a bummer to see our jades revert back to green again, ha? :-((( I can't wait till the sun starts to rise higher in the sky come December 21.Do you think you will have a cold awful winter, or us here in the east? It is always either the west or east and as it seems to appear, the west has won out in the cold department this far...We are almost 70 tomorrow..lol Jojo: My dear Jojo: I never saw such insects and frogs anywhere here..I can't believe all the huge bugs and frogs you have..I haven't even seen so much as a toad this year..You have the perfect bug to eat all the bad insects on your plants..I released hundreds of praying mantis a year ago and haven't seen a one since..:-((..Heck, I have not even seen a lady bug..lol Jodik: I love this thread too! I can't believe that you are getting an avocado! Me too..I have a couple ripening as we speak..I would love to dig the one up in Josh's yard he found the other day..It would save me a whole lot of time..lol..It is so beautiful..A surprise for him it was.. Xuan: Hi...How are you? I have been drooling over all your pictures too...Fantastic...Thank you.. If I missed anyone, I am sorry.. By the way..I MISS YOU PUG! Mike
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 22, 10 at 22:01
| Hey, Mike! We're looking at a forecast low of 22°F coming in a few days. First rain, then a clear cold freeze! I'm not sure if this year will be worse than last. It's been pretty nice so far. |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Thu, Nov 25, 10 at 10:10
| Hi Everyone! Mike, Yes, getting a little more used to the camera. Macro is still a little tricky, but that may be my bad eyes, and not the camera. LOL! Also can't have any wind or movement with macro setting. lol. I enjoy most of our critters and bugs here. ;) I don't blame my son for not wanting to hold the big grasshopper, he was tickeling my hand !! I plant my yard to attact as much of the good as i can. That worm pic was taken in Feb/March, he was cold and not happy about being dug up. LOL! Josh, Look at this mess! LOL! I'll be back soon with some flowers. :) |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Sat, Nov 27, 10 at 9:22
| Jojo: Wow! It only took 15 seconds for this page to download today..lol Some of the CUTEST pups we have ever seen Jojo..That coming from my family. Now my Mom wants you to send her one..I don't think so..Not on a plane all by him or herself..lol Josh: Yes..Fantastic colors and always a nice view from anywhere you take a picture..Your area looks so peaceful and inviting! What a beautiful maple! It looks very happy to be surrounded by peace...Did it really get that cold already? Funny thing..It has not been very cold here just yet..Now they are talking 50's next week! My pop up greenhouse is still luckily going..I am greateful this year since last it snowed and the ground was solid frozen by now.I did not even have a chance to rake winter came so fast.. Have a great day everyone... Mike |
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| Hey, Everybody! No, Mike! I hate the thought that snow is on its way! I despise the cold! As beautiful as it is, it hurts too much! I ache all winter! :-) I just like it because a good layer blanketing the garden helps to protect the roses and other plants that are dormant underground. It's nice to look out the window, from inside where it's warm, and see a gentle snow falling, the way it sparkles in the early morning sun, the way it sticks to the bare tree branches and the other structures in the yard... but it's too damn cold! :-) Honestly, I wouldn't care if it never snowed again! I just know it's better for the plants and gardens when they have that layer of protection. Winter and I do NOT get along! If I could give you my winter, Mike, I would... if you like it, that is... Christmas is nice, but as soon as autumn arrives, I'm already wishing spring was here! :-) Fabulous photos, everyone! JoJo, we have similar bugs and birds, except our grasshoppers don't get that big... what the heck are you feeding them?! ;-) I love that teeny, tiny toad! How does it not get lost... or eaten?! I, too, have tried and tried, without much success, to capture the hummingbirds that frequent the gardens during the nicer seasons. They just won't stay close enough to get a clear shot. And if one does get close, I manage to not have a camera with me! And, awwwww.... look at those cute little guys, all lined up for a portrait! How sweet! Great pictures, JoJo! Kevin, Max is a beautiful dog! And I love the fish pond! Very nice pictures! Thank you for sharing! Josh, as always, a lovely shot of your yard... I really like how you use stone and other items within your landscaping. It so reminds me... of me! ;-) I hope I haven't missed anyone... a big hello to all, and I hope everyone is doing well. I just received a small care package from a friend, and am about to pot up some Galtonia bulbs and a beauty of a Eucomis bulb! I can't wait to see them bloom next year! Alas, they must remain container plants, not being hardy to this area, but I can better watch their progress this way. The temperatures have dipped down to what I consider early winter temps... enough for a decent jacket when I go outside, that is. We've had rain mixed with sleet and ice twice already, but no snow as of yet. And tomorrow we go shopping, so I'll be picking out a decent Avacado to save the seed from! Here's to a good evening... enjoy those turkey leftovers! :-) |
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- Posted by loveplants2 8 (My Page) on Sun, Nov 28, 10 at 0:53
| Hello Everyone... I love all of the post here...especially the critters, dogs especially!! But, most of all the flowers... Here are a few blooms that I have now!! Plus I thought I would share a few of the dogs as well!!! Take care everyone!!! Laura in VB Stay warm everyone!!! Laura in VB |
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| I had an interesting day. A few years ago, I sold a half section of wooded property I kept for hunting. One of the things I soo miss about no longer owning it is the birds that were hand tame. I'm not really sure how many chickadees there were, but there were probably 50-100 or more scattered across the property. We couldn't go to any of the blinds and sit w/o the birds landing on us and begging for sunflower seeds. At the road frontage, I kept a travel trailer that was 'home'. I/we would come out of the woods for lunch and gather around the trailer. I had a hat that had a little hollow spot on top where I could put a handful of sunflower seeds, and they wouldn't fall off unless I bent over sharply. The chickadees were so very bold. Not often would more than one land on my hat at a time, but they would perch on my shoulders and coat sleeves awaiting their turn to dart to the booty & then fly off onto a nearby branch where they would grasp the seed in their tiny claws and work on the hull to get at the energy treat inside. Often, I would remove my gloves and pinch a seed tightly so the bird couldn't grasp it and fly away with it. I could watch the little buggers perch and attack the sunflower with their tiny beaks until they could steal the kernel and then fly off in search of the next snack. The chickadees were so brazen they would fly at us from any direction w/o a hint of fear. It was often startling, even though it was completely common, for a bird to fly directly at our face at a furious pace, then, at the last possible second slam on the brakes in a flutter of wings right at the end of your hat brim. The other birds that were tamed were the nuthatches. These birds had a trait that was quite interesting. Unlike the chickadees, the nuthatches would never fly to us directly and then land on us. We needed to be in the very close proximity of a tree before we could attract them. Their MO was to land on the tree above our head, then hop hop hop down the tree to our hat for a seed. They too would fly off to a branch, one seed at a time to chisel away the husk hiding the booty. If we were holding the seeds on our hand, or had them in a pocket, the nuthatches would continue hopping down an arm to the hand or pocket for their meal. Anyway - the digression was so perhaps you can get a feeling for what a wonderfully uplifting experience this kind of communion with wild birds is. I've been really missing it for the last few years & had decided I was going to find a rural wooded place on the way home from work and tame a few birds. I was sitting in an easy chair in front of the LR picture window watching the birds at the feeder and decided I'd try it here. I'd reasoned that rather than risk interaction with me, the birds would simply fly to any one of a dozen nearby neighbor's feeders & take sustenance there. I thought that taming them in a wild, remote setting was possible mainly because they were unable to simply fly a few yards to a nearby feeder for an offering equal to mine ..... but I was wrong. All I did was this: I took the bird feeder down & put it in the garage. I then held a (clean) tuna can partially filled with sunflower seeds right where the feeder was. I also put some seeds on my hat. Within 1 minute, I had a chickadee land on my hat. That one had to come back for the third time before another was bold enough to join him. After that, the chickadees landed freely on my hat, even as I moved around slowly under the tree. After they were comfortable, I shook the seeds off my hat & held a small handful on the palm of a gloved hand. Within a few seconds, they were eating out of my hand. By that time it was getting late and the cardinals were around in force (usually the last birds at the feeder, but much too timid to come near), signaling the end of the day, and the chickadees were off looking for a warm spot to spend the night. I've got a few strategies in place that will allow me to get some rockin' pictures of the birds eating from my hand. I'll TRY to help my wife get familiar enough with the camera to get some cool pics of the birds on my hat, too. Maybe I'll just take some pictures of her feeding them & post them this weekend. One of the things we used to do is, we would hold a sunflower seed between our lips and put our hand, palm down on the point of our chin - like a platform. The chickadees would land on the back of our hands and take the seed from our lips. The picture looked just like the birds were kissing us. How cool is THAT? ;o) Anyway .... when I got done with my day's adventure, I felt really uplifted. Just thought I'd share. I KNOW I need to share pics, so I'll work on it over the weekend. Stay tuned. ;o) |
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| Wow...I guess I completely missed this thread,lol...nice to be missed Mike! Fantastic pictures everyone...I have truly enjoyed everyone pictures here...just AWESOME! Thanks everyone...what a wonderful thread! Thanks for that wonderful story Al! Okay, had to put a few pictures of Max here...
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Sat, Dec 4, 10 at 11:21
| Nancy: Hahahahahahahh...I LOVE LOVE that picture, the second one above my post! He looks like me in the am just before getting out of bed and nice and warm.If he gets better treatment than your husband, I wouldn't blame him for being just a bit jealous....lol..Cute.. Al: Very interesting and nice story..I can't wait to see the pics you came up with..Al, I love birds! I use to breed birds..Canaries and finches in particular..Grren singing finches that use to fetch a pretty penny..At one point I had over 100 canaries in my now plant room..I have been tempted to buy a singing bird and let him have free reign of the plant room..He would have a lot of fun, but the droppings might cause a problem..:-) Laura: My goodness!!! Do you think that you and Pug might have alot in common? lol..You both like Hoya's, DR, Catuses, DOGS and dressing them up, and this forum...lol Jodik: You got new bulbs?? Yippy..I can't wait to see the pics of those flowers once they pop..I ahte the winter too..I am starting to feel like I should just let the bank reposses my home and just move to my house in the Tropics with the clothes on my back and just my plants... I hope your back is back to well again...How is your cutting doing? Hi Josh!! Jodik is right when she says that your yard is nice..Every one of your plants that look out your windows love the view..That is the reason why they do so well besides the mix your using too..lol Great DOG pics everyone..I love this thread.. If I missed anyone I am sorry..I had to go.. Have a beautiful day and stay warm like your dogs..They have the hang of it! Mike |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Sat, Dec 4, 10 at 11:57
| Mike, thank you! Yes, my plants must enjoy the view...although a few of them certainly wish that they could be outside where they vacation during the hot Summer! As we near the Winter Solstice, the darkest day of the year, it is a good time to remind everyone to keep turning their plants. As the sun dips, my plants strongly heliotrope and will take a set in a particular direction if I don't keep them "on the move." Al, that was a great story of the bird-feeding. This Summer, while watering some ferns, In other news, the fourth of five flowers has opened on my little Jade cutting. I'm stoked! ;) Lastly, let me post a pic of my good friend's dog. This is Zoe, or Zoya (said with Russian accent!). And this is a sunset from my backyard, taken last week. On December 21st, the Sun will be at its minimum. Josh |
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| Thanks Mike, as you can see...Max has a very rough life,lol... Josh, how adorable, I'm so sure Max and Zoe would be best friends if they lived closer. She's a cutie! Love that sunset picture...Wow, gorgeous! |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Sat, Dec 4, 10 at 21:11
| Hi Everyone! It's been a few days since i've been here. I love all the photos! Laura, I have a little sweetie, that looks like yours. But not the same breed. I'll try and post pics later. :) Al~ I can't wait to see the pictures! I keep my birdfeeders where I can see them all the time. I've never tried to tame any here, but do feed them, and talk to them when their around. Like i said, my finches talk back to me. And don't mind me working the yard. :) Years ago, I tamed a road runner, and she even brought me her "new Family" to see. She would take food right from my hand. We had a pidgeon a few years back here.. White as snow! Wild, and we tamed him. Named him Romeo. :) I may have pics somewhere. He would show up in the morning and stare in the sliding glass door, waiting for us to go out. :) My humming bird came by yesterday and gave me an earful, literly! because his flower was killed by the frost. Josh, Good to see everyone! |
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| Say HI to my buddies. I've had the nuthatches eating from my hand, too .... just not when I had the camera. I'll try to get some shots of them perched on shoulders & head/hat, but I need a helper for that and she's somewhat reluctant to stand out in the cold/wind to take bird pics, ;o) I'm not sure how many different chickadees I've managed to coax to my hand - maybe 8-12. I've had at least 2 nuthatches, one regular and a red-breasted. .... keeps me off the streets & out of the bars. ;o) Brrrr - it's been cold. Mid-20s with a stiff wind. See how wrinkled the pads of my fingers are from the cold? I guess I could have been a little more observant about the background in the pics, but at least you know I wasn't pulling your leg about 'taming the birds'. ;o) Al |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az. Z9 (My Page) on Sun, Dec 5, 10 at 16:36
| Al! They're beautiful! How fun that must be!! It really brightend my day. Thanks for braving the cold for us! If you were to try that here, you may roast. 78* ;) Maybe I'll try with my finches. ;) Tell your helper to bundle up good. :)(although I don't blame her! lol) I know were all dying to see more pics! Hope everyone is having a good day! JJ |
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- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (mikerno_1@yahoo.com) on Sun, Dec 5, 10 at 18:46
| I couldn't wait to get home and see these pictures! I am in love with birds as much as I am with my plants and cat.. If you promise your helper a nice night out to a nice restaurant, she might just brave the cold for you.. Those are some really nice pictures..How in the world did you move your camera or hold it without shaking to get the bird to stay and take such nice shots?..Marvelous..! Now I am confused..I don't know if I like the pictures of your frogs better, or your plants, or the birds? lol Thank you Hi Jojo..We sent you mail?Many warm wishes to you..Have great day too, or should I say night..:-) Mike |
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- Posted by greenman28 Nor Cal 7/8 (My Page) on Sun, Dec 5, 10 at 18:55
| That's awesome, Al! What a great communion with the birds! Josh |
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| WOW I have spent a lot of my morning reading this post!! What a great way to spend a December morning with a cup of coffee. Although I am exhausted from all the work you all have done. I guess I have a lot more to learn! I think my plants are great but I always have brown leaves somewhere on the plants. Al lured me back to this site with his pictures of birds but everything here is fantastic! Great thread! |
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| You've been away too long anyway, Beth. Hasn't it been a great thread, though? Always good to see you ..... and I hope you come by more often ..... or better yet, stick around. ;o) Al |
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- Posted by jojosplants Az Z9 (My Page) on Mon, Dec 6, 10 at 18:45
| Hi Everyone! I have a new flower to share. Now some may say they're not real inviting, at least not the fragrance, but she sure is pretty! Just bloomed this morning. I need to find out which one it is now. lol! It's only about 3" across. A nice little one. Nancy~ Hubby and I both love the new photos of Max. Boy does he look comfy in his little blanket, and clothes. LOL! and I thought mine were spoiled! lol! Jodi~ Hi To everyone else, |
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| Really a cool shot, JJ. A pretty bloom! Thread's almost done for. ;-( How about if we continue it here?
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