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| Here's an examination on how eggplants did in tubs with compost, stumps, and branches as the mix. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Stump and branch pot comparison
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| eg I have couple of questions: Hope I am not asking what you already answered. Thnx. Rina |
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- Posted by greentiger87 none (My Page) on Tue, Sep 4, 12 at 10:32
| Really awesome experiment. I've gotten outstanding results from 5:1:1 with eggplants, but I understand that your focus is to do this without having to buy anything. If there was no fertilizer, that's really pretty incredible. What's you're interpretation of the physics here? Did the stump wick up the water to the surface such that there was no perched water on the bottom? |
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- Posted by emgardener 9 BayArea CA (My Page) on Tue, Sep 4, 12 at 14:33
| Hi, This is a long reply for Rina and Greentiger Rina, *why pot in the pot? This was just to divert any drainage to runoff the deck. Since I water with a drip system on timer and sometimes I travel, I didn't want the wooden deck to get wet. *what kind of trees did the branches and stumps came from? Soft wood, long needle pine. This wood, when dry, wicks very well and decomposes faster than hardwood. I should try it with hardwood to see if this really makes a difference or not. *were the leaves partially or well composted, and what kind of trees the leaves came from? (I know you showed some oak leaves, but were they all oak?) Good question. The leaf pot contained roughly equal amount of oak, redwood, and long pine needles. They were all dry, not rotted when first used. In the leaf pot the roots grew in the leaves quite well. Whereas in the pot with just redwood needles in the bottom, the roots didn't grow into them. This was a key observation. 2 difference accounted for this I believe. One: soil filtered into the leaves in the leaf pot, because sometimes I watered with a hose on the shower heading close to the soil just so the water stream would push the compost deeper. I watered more gently with the compost/leaf pot, so the compost didn't get pushed into the redwood needles at the bottom of the pot. So the roots would not grow just into freshly dried leaves well. They did need some compost or soil. In the future I'll try 3 parts leaves (compressed volume), to 1 part compost. *did you use seedlings of exactly same age & type? (looks to me that there are few different types of peppers & eggplants - was same number of same planted in each tub?) The 3 peppers in each tub were the same age & type, I purchased these Burpee 6 packs that had 2 each of 3 different types of peppers. *did you water all of them same or 'as necessary'? They were all on the same drip system, 12 emitters, 6 minutes a day. But I also hose watered about once a week. With the hose I watered the leaf pot more, since I knew it would dry out faster. I hose-watered the branch pots less. *did you grow your other veggies in same tubs? greentiger, I do use 5:1:1 type mix for some indoor plants and they are much happier for it. I just have never been able to get good results outside on my deck with it. My own theory is that the roots don't form as much contact with the mix since it is highly aerated, so they can't wick up fast enough to prevent wilting in hot, sunny weather. In cool weather (<= 80degrees) or even in hot shade the plants do great. Zero cost fertilizer was used (HLF, homemade liquid fertilizer or human liquid fertilizer :) About the wicking physics: The top of the stump would wick away any excess water. Overall the stump pot was easy to water and very robust. I could overwater it without negative consequences, and it could go for days even a week without water and the eggplants would be fine. They might droop a bit in the heat, but not go into severe wilt. |
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- Posted by greentiger87 none (My Page) on Tue, Sep 4, 12 at 15:42
| I've had the same problems with 5:1:1 in plastic pots in the Texas sun (I'm in Houston)! Few people seem to be able to commiserate. My solution has been fabric pots, or otherwise radically aerated pots (plastic laundry baskets and such). For whatever reason, probably some combination of free movement of air and evaporative cooling, they don't heat up like the big black nursery pots doo. I was skeptical too, but the plants have flourished. I'm now in the process of making my own from fabric store felt. I really do want to experiment with stumps now too. Thanks for documenting/posting this! |
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