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Seed potatoes?

Posted by AiliDeSpain 5a (My Page) on
Sat, Mar 2, 13 at 23:47

So I was at Walmart today perusing the garden section and ran across some yukon gold seed potatoes, 3 lbs. for five dollars. I had pre-ordered mine through parks seed 14$ for 2 lbs! Is there something special about parks seed potatoes to justify this disparity in price? Of course I bought the ones at Walmart because I thought it was a really good deal, just wondering if I should cancel the parks order or if there is something I don't know.
TIA for any insights!


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RE: Seed potatoes?

One of them may be using certified seed potatoes, which have been checked for disease, and the other may not be. Price isn't necessarily a good guide as to which one, if either, may be certified. I've never seen much difference between sellers if the potatoes look good, and hopefully they are starting to sprout and haven't been treated with sprout inhibitors. I would buy the certified potatoes if given the choice.


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Last year I had such wonderful results planting the little blue and white potatoes from a cook-in-the-bag potato product at the Food Lion that I'm doing it again. This time of year I accumulate gourmet potatoes from various retail sources and green them up. I have some pink-fleshed fingerlings from the co-op that are looking good.


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The seed potatoes from Walmart are from dutch valley growers. It doesn't say anything on the bag about them being certified. The potatoes in the bag look good and some are starting to sprout. Guess I will just give it a go and hope for the best!


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Most seed companies sell small quantities of seeds, potatoes, etc, for higher prices per pound to compensate for those buying large quantities. For example, a seed pack with 100 seeds is $2.50, but 1000 seeds is only $9. Somewhere in the middle is where their cost/sales add up.

If you haven' noticed, everything at Walmart is cheap. They do things very differently. They buy large quantities of sometimes low quality items for super cheap. Sometimes they use vicious tactics to get these prices (ask the farmer that grew those potatoes what they got paid!). Then they are able to make their money by selling to the masses at just above cost. This is why they put so many small businesses under. And why I personally choose to never, ever support their stores.

Just my opinion,
Mark

Here is a link that might be useful: Wiki article on Walmart


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Oh everybody always makes Walmart sound evil for their pricing. Bottom line is they don't force anybody to supply them. They offer the biggest distribution network on the planet to your goods, but they force you to produce them in an efficient manner. Sure, you may only make a few pennies per product, but you're selling hundreds of millions of your product.

Anyway, that said, the main difference is likely bulk. When you order through Park Seeds, you are getting a very small amount from them, so they mark it up more. Walmart buys (probably from the same suppliers) the same stuff, but where Park Seeds might buy a few thousand potatoes, Walmart buys a few million. Huge bulk orders mean lower prices.


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Thanks EDy..It gets so old hearing that Wal-Mart tale of woe....Most small towns will tell you that they are so happy to have a Wal-mart supporting the local economy.....We have HEB, SuperS and Walmart and Walmart hasn't harmed either of the oldtimers. and the cheap theory is silly too.

If I can get seed potatoes at a decent price, I buy them if not, I use stock from any super market...have for years and never had it bite me in the butt....The no sprout spray is just a fabrication for most companies. The price that they sell potatoes at, not likely are they going to spend money for any thing they don't have to spend it on....


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As a matter of necessity I do most of my grocery shopping at Wal-Mart, however i also support many local businesses like cal ranch for specialty items for the garden that Wal-Mart doesn't carry.


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I buy my seed potatoes from Fedco. hint hint


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If you folks want to educate yourselves about the issues associated with Walmart, read the link i've provided. If you choose to ignore it, then please don't try to tell me nonsense like small towns are happy to have walmarts supporting their economy. Show me one.

On the contrary, I can show you huge lists of towns (including mine) that have refused to let Walmarts in because they fear for their local businesses. There are dozens of studies that have proven how local businesses are hurt, better jobs are lost and people are left with no option but to buy cheap chinese merchandise because there's no other option left available.

But I suppose you know better.
Or maybe you don't really care about the future, as long as you can save a buck.

By the way, this isn't about the potatoes. I honestly do hope they grow well.
I get my potato seed from Potato garden which used to be Ronnigers. They're a fair priced, small farm.

Here is a link that might be useful: Potato Garden seed


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But I suppose you know better.

Actually, I do. We own a family business in a town with a half dozen walmarts. We have a costume store, and Walmart sells costumes and props for less than we can buy them wholesale during Halloween.

Did we whine and moan and start protests to run Walmart out of town when we couldn't compete with them? No, we didn't. We changed our inventory to simply not carry what Walmart does. It means we don't carry flavor of the month fad costumes (like movie related costumes, which is actually a Godsend, because we don't get stuck with out of date fad merchandise we can't sell), we carry higher quality merchandise, and we stay open year round to provide stuff for things other than Halloween.

So please, don't give me that "Oh it hurts small local business" nonsense. The only small local businesses it hurts are those that don't know how to run a business in the first place. Heck, its become one of our strong points to point out that we carry things that Walmart never would.

If anything, the claim can be made that the local businesses that had a monopoly on their product were just as bad as you claim Walmart to be. They had no competition, they overcharged, and the only reason they stayed in business was because the customers had no other choice but to shop with them.

You either adapt, or you die, and its not the competition's fault when you can't adapt.


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I congratulate you on your survival. I mean it. It's not so easy for most stores and I really doubt it's because they all "don't know how to run a business".
What if your family had run a local drug store? To survive you would have had to find new drugs to sell. Hmmm, that could be more difficult to adapt than costumes.

I grow organic vegetables for a living. What if I lived in a small town with limited markets? If walmart came in bringing organic food from China, I couldn't possibly compete. There isn't hardly anything I could grow that they couldn't source for cheaper. If I managed to match their price, they could just subsidize the price with something else to drop it lower than mine and knock me out. My small family farm would dry up and If I chose to stay, i'd be working for minimum wage as a clerk at 'you know where'.

I can continue for weeks listing article after article here about the negative effects of walmart because there are so many and more written every day.

Here's one, try to read it with an open mind and be thankful that your business didn't go the way all these others did.

Here is a link that might be useful: Walmart Displaces Nearby Small Businesses


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All gardeners need to check and see if you have a farm store, Co-op, a local seed store or even a garden nursery. Here in the south we have Co-op you can get certified seed potatoes for .50 cents a pound. They have Yukon Gold, Red Pontiac and Kennebec potatoes. They also have most seed that the bag up for about .79 cents for about 5 to 10 times as many seed as you get from a Wal-Mart pkg. They have larger 1 LB bags for $2.50 to $5.00 per pound. Also sale 50 lb bags of 17x17x17 fertilizer for 17.99 bag Wal-Mart sales 40 lb bags of 13x13x13 for 18.99 here in the south. I'm sure most areas have farm stores check them out.


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As a rule, Walmart is only going to sell very generic versions of everything. So again, don't try to compete with them by selling normal celery, grow red celery instead. Don't grow normal orange carrots, grow white or purple carrots. Purple potatoes instead of white or red, sweet peppers that aren't Bells, etc.

Walmart makes it's money by carrying very generic items in vast quantity. Let them, while you focus on the specialty niche. Because frankly, Walmart isn't going to care what you grow, you aren't a threat to them. They aren't going to go out of their way to drive you out of business by carrying cheaper versions of what you're doing unless you're growing what they already sell. They don't care what you do, mainly because nothing you do could ever be a threat to them.

Let them spend all the effort selling cheap russets, you market yourself as an organic specialty grower offering a wide selection of things people have never seen at a Walmart before and you'll do well.


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I tried seed sweet potatoes but the results were not that good. This year I ordered sweet potatoes plants; expensive yes but I hope it will wok.


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Yeah, sweet potatoes you need to make slips from, not plant directly. You make a slip by letting the sweet potato sprout until you get a vine, then you can pop the vine off the potato and let it grow into a new plant.

If you want to really push how much you can get from one sweet potato, you can let it grow out a longer vine, and lay the vine down in a shallow tray of water or moist soil. The vine will root all the way along it, then you can chop the vine up into sections a couple inches long and each one of them will grow into a new plant as well.

Regular potatoes are easier though. Just toss one in the dirt and its pretty much happy.


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I will say this about Walmart- they aren't as bad as Monsanto.


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Just be sure if you buy store potatoes to regrow that they have had a period to be dorment before you plant them.
I just read that you can force potato sets to sprout by placing them in the fridge for 2-3 weeks before you plant them.
i guess this is done so you can replant early crop potatoes for a fall crop.
This only what I have read not any thing I have tryed. i might this year though.

This post was edited by veggiecanner on Mon, Mar 4, 13 at 20:34


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