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| Specifically, the Patio Plus, as seen here:
I know not everyone has this stuff available, so my apologies if this post doesn't apply to those of you who do not. I'm not sure whether this stuff is any good or not, although the texture is quite nice and loose with a fair amount of perlite in it, and is supposed to contain worm castings, chicken manure, and bat guano also (and whooooa boy, it sure smells like there's some kind of poop in there). The guy at the nursery told me that it's really popular in the PNW, but not as popular here in our area because people don't know how great it is, and they go reaching for what they know - which is usually Miracle Grow or SuperSoil. If you had to choose between the Kellogg Patio Plus, MG Potting Mix, and SuperSoil for putting into containers and/or raised beds, which would you go with, and why? These are pretty much my only 3 choices, other than paying some $15/1.5 cu ft. for the stuff my local nursery touts as being "the best" or making my own... and as far as I've seen, Home Depot doesn't even carry the sorts of things I'd need in order to make my own, so as I continue trying to learn and improve upon my gardening attempts, I need to know which is the lesser of 3 evils, so to speak, lol. spaghetina |
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- Posted by spaghetina NorCal Bay Area (My Page) on Mon, Jun 29, 09 at 3:52
| Oops, forgot to add, I'm also curious as to your opinions on the Gromulch and Amend. The Gromulch says it's a premium potting mix, which makes me wonder if that's what I should be growing in instead, and the Amend also says it's "ideal garden soil", although I happen to know that it basically looks like a bunch of dark brown redwood needles and is loose and dry as can be (and it really does seem like it'd be something you'd add to "amend" the soil, rather than to plant directly in it). |
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| I don't know that soil in particular but anything that still smells of poop is too fresh to go into your garden. I would want to compost it for a while until it mellows. |
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- Posted by spaghetina NorCal Bay Area (My Page) on Mon, Jun 29, 09 at 15:25
| The smell seems to dissipate after a few days. |
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- Posted by David(Ddwayne15@aol.com) onSat, Feb 19, 11 at 18:47
| I found that patio plus is a way better value than any other "organic natural" potting mix. All my veggies and flowers are in containers and Are growing like crazy! People are learning how good this stuff is. "bat guano, worm poop, composted chicken manure, kelp meal, rice hulls, perlite, canadian peat moss, horticulture sand. I recommend if you want success . |
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- Posted by Ellie(eli13579@gmail.com) onMon, Mar 28, 11 at 18:14
| I went to Lowes to buy 3 bags of Gardener's (Kellogg) potting soil for my garden bed. I was quite shock because of the smells (smell like cow poops), because also bought Earthgro and mircale grow from Home Depot the same day and the soil had no smell in it. After learning more about biosoilds, I decided to call Kellogg to ask. The guy told me it contains: peat moss, perlite, forest compost (Like what the bag says), so I went on asked him if it contain "poop" because it smells really bad. He then told me it contains a little cow manure. I was not quite pleased with the "push-to-answer" response so I asked "does it contain biosolid such as human poop", he said "yes" and said it is only a small amount, I asked him what is the % and he said he can not disclose that. He was very helpful! But honestly, I hated how they won't disclose the complete combination. Luckily, I only have 3 bags of Gardeners (Kellogg) and 9 bags are other brands. I will keep watering the soil and wait 2 weeks before I plant my veggies. Can anyone comment on my post and give me idea about my Nitrohumus Veggie garden? Thanks |
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- Posted by MartySoCal none (My Page) on Sat, Mar 24, 12 at 23:09
| If it is not OMRI-certified, AVOID. Kellogg adds human waste from the City of Los Angeles. This is not clear from the ingredients. They also add other waste products that I wouldn't use it the garden. I recently asked them about their "organic" chicken fertilizer and they said it is not 100% chicken manure, but has some wood products. The ingredients are not listed on the package. They said it is organic because they do not use chemicals/synthetics. Duh. All pure manures are organic, regardless of how the animal was fed. Wood products that are not treated with paint etc, like what is coming from lumberyards are also organic. The only difference between their chicken manure and the competition is that they add the word organic and dilute it with wood products. It is like selling "organic" gasoline mixed with water. After a couple of weeks of research on their different products I simply do not trust Kellogg unless it is certified by OMRI. |
Here is a link that might be useful: OMRI product list (free, click complete_company.pdf)
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| Either the above posts are out and out lies or Kathy Johnson of Kellogg is not telling the truth. I emailed her about this concern and she sent me back the following: "Hi Mike, Patio plus is an OMRI certified organic product which does not contain any biosoilds. It's organic meaning it's ingredients contain worm castings, chicken manure and kelp meal. Patio plus is one of my favorite soils." |
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| This product is listed on the OMRI product list. So does that mean it's OMRI certified? I couldn't tell. |
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| http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/04/your-organic-compost-really-sewage-sludge-rosario-dawson-kellogg-amend Story on Kellogg using sewage |
Here is a link that might be useful: Sewage in Kellogg soil
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| The Mother Jones info is dated. Perhaps it is why Kellogg changed the product. Amend is now OMRI listed and OMRI listed products do not contain biosolids/sludge composted or otherwise.. I have some of the old product and the new. The label is different and so is the smell. |
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