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Posted by momof3wildboys GA (My Page) on Fri, Jul 24, 09 at 15:05
| I am new to this and I want to start a few things from seeds. What is the best method to start seed? Pellets? Peat pots? Any advice is appreciated!! |
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If you do a search on the forum for peat pots, I'm sure you will come up with a lot of negative reviews and a few positives. In my opinion, coir(coconut) fiber is much better, but a little more expensive. You can get both at home depot or walmart. May I suggest you try some of each to see which ones you prefer? Or like I said, do a search because I know the tomato forum especially had a discussion on the pros and cons of peat and coir for starting seeds. Hope that helps! Holly |
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I have found that a sterile seed starting medium (it is sold in small bags at big box stores and many nurseries)in small plastic pots under a dome or cover that allows light but keeps in moisture works for me. You can get what you need, except the starting medium, as a "seed starter kit" at various stores. I got mine at Lowe's. If you sterilize the pots, tray and dome, you can reuse them indefinitely. In Texas I start tomatoes,peppers, eggplant, and some herbs in January for planting out in March. I tried peat pots twice, with dismal results. |
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| Try fiber egg cartons. Seed starting soil and saran wrap over the top til starting to come up. |
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| A tip -- when you open the bag of seed starting mix its likely to be absolutely bone dry. In this condition its nearly waterproof when you put it into the pots. Fill the plastic bag with water and reseal it. Then leave it for a couple days and it will be evenly wetted. But if you ever let it dry out all the way again it will become waterproof again. :-( I tried the eggcarton thing this spring. I didn't like it -- the plants outgrew their little compartments almost as soon as they'd sprouted and long before they were ready to be transplanted. |
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I plant mostly directly in the garden right now. The thing is that the weather is stil hot (high 80s - low 90s). I mulch them with finly broken leaves/ pine straw and water them once or twice daily. You can start in small pots and put them where they will get just few hours of sun, until germinate and grow couple of inches. Then you can give them more sunshine and finally put them in where they are supposed to be pemanently. In spring time we have cold weather problem for germinating and now we have hot weather and drying up fast. So it is always a challenge. |
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| My favorite way is to place seeds in dampened paper towels. I fold the towels into 3's, place seeds in the middle, fold over the sides to make an envelope. Put the envelopes (6 or 8) on a plastic tray and dampen them, insert the entire tray into a large plastic bag to prevent drying out. The seedlings don't need light to germinate, but heat to about 70 to 75 degrees. I have grow lights that come in handy here for temp control mainly. When the seeds sprout, gently remove them and plant into a planting medium. Seeds don't need fertilizer, but I use my homemade compost mixed with peat, that is screened fine just for this. I know it has been made right - (no mold spores or diseases left). If using potting mix - I would either sun dry or heat dry to remove any mold spores. The sprouted seeds are planted into yogurt cups - about 6 to 8 to a cup with the moistened compost mixture. I can fit about 8 cups into a plastic shoebox type container, which is then slipped into a large plastic bag and placed under grow lights. Temps again about 70 to 75 degrees. When seeds start to show signs of "taking hold" remove bag and allow the seedlings some room, water when necessary. When outside temps are right, harden the growing seeds by placing them in the shade - with a plastic cover on top, until ready to plant into the ground - watch ground temps - each veggie has their own preference there. Hmmmm - bet that's more than you wanted to know. Bejay |
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| in our green house we grew 30,000 seedlings this year. for potting soil we use Black Gold and petemoss. we give away 5/6 of our seedlings so we are non-profit. this means we do a lot of thins by hand and with volunteer labor. we have fun and we get all the seedlings we want for our gardens. what a deal. we put a large bag of Black gold and 1/3 of a large bail of pete in a large wheelbarrow with some kind of plant food. also a quart of pearlite. we then soak that mixture with water. one person turns the mixture with a shovel and the other put the water in. we make it real soggy. we put this mixture in propagation trays about 1/2" thick and put about 500 to 1000 seed spread around on the tray. we then cover the seed lightly with dry Black Gold and a piece of cotton cloth. like an old sheet cut to fit the tray. we then put the trays on our heating pads. not the kind you use to warm your feet at night in the winter. these pads are water proof and are about 18" x 4 feet. when the seen is germinated and the seedling is about 1" to 2" tall we then transplant them in to 4 and 6 packs. for most home gardeners this is way to much. so i will try to make the points you need to know. you can get sterilized potting soil that has plant food in it. you will need to soak it well. you can get six packs from your local garden supply store. you can put our seed right in to the six packs an avoid a step. cove with cotton cloth. put in a warm place. at least 80 degrees. remove the cloth when the seedlings poke their heads up. put in the full sun on a cookie sheet to catch the water that drains off the plants. water often. two or three time a day. set them outside when it is not freezing to harden them off about a week or two before you set them out in your garden. plant twice as many as you think you need. if they all come up share with family and friends. i don't think i have missed anything. that is a lot of work for plants you can buy for 50 cents but the up side is you get to grow what you want not what the nursery is offering. and the satisfaction of doing it all. my production is really getting into full swing now and i get to enjoy the fruits of my labor at least until i start put the food up. good luck WM |
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what I do is just take 16 oz. cups fill 'em with potting mix put a seed in wait a couple of day and they sprout. I just don't see any reason for the little flats or peat pellets and then have to pot them up 3 or four times when they will sprout in the cups and can stay there till ready for the garden unless you trying to start a stubborn seed. this may not be the best way, but, it is far simpler your friend, angel |
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- Posted by lelia Northern Cal (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 26, 09 at 10:49
| I never use sterile seed-starting mix, I just use organic potting soil with plenty of nutrients. And I never cover the seed beds with anything either, but I do keep a mister around, using it to humidify and water the seeds. I find that covering the seeds encourages mold, not all of which is bad, but I'm more comfortable with misting than covering. Once some of the seeds have sprouted, the seedlings will need light, so I move the cell packs out into the sun during the day (even if some seeds haven't germinated yet), and bring them in at night (I live in California, so there's generally enough warmth during the day no matter what time of year it is.... night time temps are another story, though). With heat lovers like tomatoes, peppers, eggplants and melons (and others, of course) I use heat mats under the trays at night, putting them out during the day for light. This means that night time temps are warmer than day time, but it doesn't seem to matter to the seedlings, and I have good success doing it this way. If the seedlings need to be transplanted into another container, I generally use plastic cups from the grocery store, and I do that in a timely manner, never letting the seedlings get rootbound, which can set some of them way back. I have to say, starting plants from seed is lots of fun, peeking at their progress every spare second, and choosing varieties from the vast array not available to those who buy plants. |
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| I'm guessing with 3 boys, you're pretty busy. If you want to start simple, go to Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot or maybe K-Mart and pick up one of the Ferry-Morse seed starting kits. (I think they still have them out, but if gone for the season, they put them back out in January.) It comes with either peat pellets, or peat pots. Some of them with peat pots include the planting medium. Then just follow the instructions. It does include a dome which helps keep the planting medium moist. To me, this is important because the medium can dry out quickly in open air and I would forget to mist them. The kits come in different sizes so you can start small or big, your choice. And they are not overly expensive. I have used both the kits with peat pellets and those with peat pots which I fill with a sterile mix for starting seeds. They both worked great for me. I prefer the peat pots though. It's important if you use peat pellets to tear the membrane that holds them before you plant them. Same with the peat pots. I always break them along one side, and most times both before transplanting to the garden or containers. This allows the roots to grow into the surrounding soil more easily (my opinion). With a few tries, you will find what you like best. |
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| Have you checked out the Growing from Seed forum here? It provides step-by-step directions and how-tos for many different plants both vegetables and flowers. It also offers FAQ on damp off, required lightening, air temps, seed starting mix, etc. Dave |
Here is a link that might be useful: Growing from Seed forum
RE: Starting from Seeds
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| Thank you for all of your responses!! I started some today in little plastic mouthwash cups w/ holes drilled in the bottom. I put 15 of them in a small pan and watered well. I put the pan in a glass aquarium w/ a grow light. I left a tiny bit of water in the botom of the pan and I plan on misting twice a day. As they start to get bigger, I will transpalnt to peat pots. Wish me luck....not only on the seeds, but also getting my boys to eat the brussel sprouts I am trying to grow!!! |
pro mix
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| Can anyone tell me if pro mix would keep if I opened a new cube this week and then stored it for late winter? I am completely out and need to start a few more things from seed, hate to spend all that money if it will not store till late winter/early spring. I only have found it in the very large cubes. Thanks, Amy |
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| Of course those starter soils are a plus but they cost money. If I fancy a bit I make my own by mixing peat moss, pearlite, screened compost and screened garden soil. For my fall planting I just used good, fine garden soil with some compost. I figure that all these seeds will and can grow in normal soil. The single most important thing right now, that it is hot, is to keep your seed beds or pots/trays moist. My radishes, chards, cabbages, aurugula... are germinating fine. I have sown some of them in a big flat tray , placed where they get about 3-4 hours of sun. I also top them with fine broken leaves/pine straws to keep the moisture better. Today the temperature got to 93F. So I had to water them twice. |
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| I assume the plants are going to eventually be planted outdoors into your garden? I might get ripped by some of the more sophisticated gardeners on the forum, but, I have, in the past, successfully germinated seeds (and grown the plants) using the damp cloth or paper towel in a plastic bag method, and then planted them directly into the garden as soon as they began to sprout (make sure any danger of frost has passed, of course). I just kept them in a tray in a warm room and made sure the cloths didn't dry out, and if you're using tap water, either boil it and let it cool to room temp. before dampening the cloths, or let it sit for a day for the chlorine to evaporate. The germination rate will likely depend somewhat on what you're trying to start, and whether or not you've followed any recommended pre-germination treatment (stratifying) for that particular seed. As always, some seeds in a batch may not sprout. You might also want a backup plan just in case, and you may have to also plant any seeds that don't germinate.. If you still have a poor germination rate within 10-14 days using this method, you'll want to get the seeds into a medium immediately and follow one of the above methods. Don't let any of the sprouts get too big before getting them into the ground, which means you might not be planting them all at once, but a few at a time. As soon as the seeds pop open and you see tiny sprouts, get them into the garden with whatever you mix with your soil (compost, peat...). As a rule, don't plant the seeds any deeper than the size of the seed, itself. |
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