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Potato Project Troubles

Posted by gardenwolverine 7b (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 29, 12 at 19:59

I decided to try potatoes this year in my container garden, in an aluminum garbage can I happened to have, and I combined it with a small bucket vermicomposter.
PhotobucketThe red plastic is a Tidy Cat bucket with holes in the bottom and wormies and tasty food inside.

I had some small purple potatoes I bought at the farmer's market last year that I stuck in compost in the can, and gradually built them up as the plants grew. There are about 6 plants in there.

Some of the plants look fine, or mostly fine, some others look like these:
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There is insect damage to the affected plants as well:
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And little black dots (probably eggs):
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Can anybody help with figuring out what's up with them and what I should do, preferably things that won't also kill the earthworms in my mini-composter? I did also have a lot of ladybug larvae on the potatoes (yep, I'm sure that's what they were), and a little trouble with fungus gnats but not as bad as I've had in past years.

I think whatever it is has also infected my lemon balm and possibly my serviceberry, both of which were draped over by the potato plants until I moved them away from it and corralled the sprawling potatoes with my rusty garden decorations. My balcony is small, maybe 6'x8' and filled with veggies and herbs in pots, so I really do need to get this problem either fixed or at least strictly controlled, even if it means killing all the potatoes.

--GW


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RE: Potato Project Troubles

Insects are the least of my potato problems. For some reason I usually under water and under feed them. When they look like yours I usually increase the water and fertilizer and they revive, turn greener, and show new growth. Good drainage is critical with container potatoes. Assuming you have good drainage there probably isn't any reason to fear overwatering. How much sun do the get? Looks like the might be in a HOT corner, hence the need for lots of water and food.


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RE: Potato Project Troubles

  • Posted by lonmower zone8 Western Oregon (My Page) on
    Sun, Jul 29, 12 at 21:17

First...in the interest of full disclosure, I am no expert!

Looks to me like the plants are experiencing stress. This could be the stress of their natural life span and are just dying back as a result of that.

Your set up does not look optimum. The container does not look large enough to support 6 plants. Also the area you have it in looks like it would either get really hot, or is too shaded. For sure there is not going to be much air movement with it stuck in the corner.

It is too late to worry about all that now. Just wait for the plants to completely die back and then harvest your bounty. You might be surprised. In any case you should have learned some valuable lessons to use next year.


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Thanks! Yeah, I don't have a lot of sunny locations, as the 'railing' is really a half wall and the other possible corner has shade all day long which is why the mushrooms I'm also trying are there. The balcony is the only safe place I can garden, too, as I have a cat who I don't want to get poisoned by the tomatoes, and the neighbors have a kid who couldn't keep his hands out of the herb pots I had outside my front door for a few weeks.

I'd wondered about the number in the container, but they'd sprouted and I didn't want to waste them, and it seemed like a lot of the container gardening advice for potatoes suggested upward of 6 or so in a container of the size I have. But now I know it should probably be 3 at max.

I went ahead and did as suggested and dumped some more homemade organic fertilizer in with them and 5+ gallons of water. We'll see how they do. :)

--GW


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It looks to me like they are ready to harvest, and are dying back naturally. Those little flea beetles are insignificant. I'd let them dry out a bit and see what you have.


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Yeah, your plants are good sized, and you probably have some sort of potatoes in here. Yes, 3 would have been better. I usually suggest keeping the plant alive as long as possible for bigger potatoes. I've got some going for more than 4 months now. Since you're in zone 7, you still have a lot of season left.


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UPDATE! :(

Poor Taters :(, The diseased looking leaves were more serious than I thought - early blight.  And they'd infected my catnip, lemon balm, second peppermint, and possibly the catmint, too, so those have been cut down and thrown away - all the plants that were under the edge of the potatoes, tho the serviceberry pot plants look alright as does the yarrow.  The serviceberry had some bad leaves and I'm HOPING it didn't contract it beyond that!

I was able to talk to the person I got the seed potatoes from, an organic farmer at the local market, and she informed me that the county has had an epidemic of early blight this year and I needed to immediately kill my plants in order to have any chance of having good potatoes. So I did that just now when the temps dropped finally. I also cut down my lemon balm and catmint, and just got rid of an unpotted peppermint which all seemed to have contracted blight from sitting under the potato leaves. My serviceberry tree also had some bad leaves for the same reason, but I'm not willing to cut that down to the soil just yet - I just cut off the offending leaves with some stem and it's looking a lot better (it had also suffered from excessive rain before this!). So far the two tomatoes look just fine, tho the larger has some wilted leaves on the bottom.

I expect my mints will make a full recovery, as the catnip was also affected but is doing fine now. Tho I find it kind of odd that the blight could have gotten to my potatoes - I have a second floor apartment balcony that's not anywhere near any potato fields. Must get carried on the wind long ways or something, or perhaps was in the compost I bought. I'll also have to do something to shade the wormies, I suspect, tho there is a thick layer of newspaper in there on top of the shredded newspaper.

--GW


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RE: Potato Project Troubles

Blight can be transported by the tubers, hence the whole purpose of certified seed.

I doubt that you had early blight (the serious disease). Possibly late blight, more likely just the plants winding down in their less than ideal situation, as noted. You can be happy that you did not see colorado potato beetle, though.


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Not sure it was blight either.......your tomato plant would probably be affected also...and it looks fine. Aren't potatoes and tomatoes both in the nightshade family?


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Well, the potatoes were cut down (but not dug out yet), and one of my tomatoes, the one that had been near the potatoes for the longest, looked somewhat diseased (dark edged and curling leaves, and wilting ones) as well so I cut out a lot of it's non-laden branches in hopes it would recover (and it IS recovering...it may have just needed thinning), as are the mint family plants.

I was thinking maybe I could still use the garbage can for a fall crop, like kale, after the tubers are dug up some time this coming week. What do you guys think? No nightshade family plants, of course.

--GW


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