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Potassium source for carrot seeds

Posted by ginnyginny Zone 9 Calif (My Page) on
Mon, Sep 15, 14 at 12:12

I read that vegetables (carrots this time) need 5-10-10 fertilizer at planting time. I have a lot of 5-3-1. What could I add to bring the potassium up to 3?

I know I could forget about it, or just count on the compost I've added to the soil to take care of that deficit, but I have this thing about trying to follow directions exactly.

Thanks,
Ginny


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RE: Potassium source for carrot seeds

When it comes to gardening you'll find that there are no real directions. Or rather there are no one-size-fits-all directions/guidelines. What works in one garden might not work in another. Even within the same garden everything changes within a year, within a month, and sometimes even within days.

You could fertilize at planting time if you want but it is necessary? Maybe, maybe not. I don't fertilize them, I just rely on compost and organic matter for carrots and other root crops. I'd wait until the carrots are about one quarter to half grown before thinking about fertilizer. By that time you'll be able to tell by their growth as to whether or not they need it.

Rodney


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  • Posted by digdirt 6b-7a North AR (My Page) on
    Mon, Sep 15, 14 at 13:41

but I have this thing about trying to follow directions exactly.

Sounds good in theory but doesn't work in practice. It only leads to over-fertilization, wasted money, and ground water contamination from run-off of the excess.

Have you had your soil tested professionally? Without that you can't know what you need to add or how much. Your soil may already contain more than enough potassium as well as everything else the plants need.

Dave


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I made a mistake in my original post. What I've read is that vegetables need 5-10-10. What I have is 5-3-1. I know it's the ratio of the numbers that is important so I should have realized the 5-3-1 has too much nitrogen in relation to the P and K.

I had my soil tested years ago. I would like to do it again but it is a bit of a chore. I would think adding the right amount of fertilizer when I plant the seeds should be ok. I always fertilize when I plant anything, and then usually forget to do it again.

I also always add store bought compost to the holes when I plant anything. I have my own compost piles but can't turn them very often.

Ginny


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If you think you need potassium, buy potash. You also can use wood ashes, but you will not be able to calculate exact ratio.
For phosphorus use superphosphate - double or triple.

Here is a link that might be useful: potash


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link for superphosphate

Here is a link that might be useful: superphosphate


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Thanks for all your feedback. I can't believe after gardening for 35 years I am still so confused about fertilizers!

I haven't done a soil test and hope to do it this fall. just one more task :(

Unless the test were to show I was deficient in potassium, I'd think I would still want to use a 5-10-10 organic equivalent fertilizer when growing carrots since that is recommended on every single site I read.

I can't believe that all these sites suggest fertilizing if it isn't necessary in most cases. These are university sites, not fertilizer product sites.

Ginny


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  • Posted by glib 5.5 (My Page) on
    Wed, Sep 17, 14 at 19:39

western soils are typically high in K. western soils with added compost are certainly high in K. giving nitrogen to carrots is a way to produce hairy, bifurcated carrots. Carrots only need garden soil, and water.


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  • Posted by QBush 6, NE MA (My Page) on
    Thu, Sep 18, 14 at 7:45

Ginny,
I will chime in with glib. I grew up in Arizona, minored in Plant Science at UA, and I have gardened in Alabama, California, New York, Germany, and Massachusetts. The soils, and a HOST of other conditions, are very different in these locations. I always feel I am starting over every time we relocate.

Best advice: get local advice. Soil testing, local county extension, other experienced LOCAL gardeners. Glib's point about western soils may, or may not apply to your microclimate soil. Soil is slow stuff, I try to take small steps with fertilizer.
KateQ


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The soil test is key. Without that you have no idea how much K or P is in your soil. It was an eye opener for me. Being in western oregon I knew I had at least an adequate K level, but I found I also had a very high P level as well. So I have stopped using bone meal. I also found out I needed to add 200 pounds of lime, yikes. Adding balanced fertilizers only makes sense if your soil is uniformly deficient, which is not likely.


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Hairy carrots! it's not just me?

So many people telling you to get a soil test. That's often a good idea, but not such a do-or-die thing. It is good to know your approximate pH; everything else follows that.

One problem with relying on composted material to provide a specific thing like potassium is that the stuff's specific nutrient levels are extremely varied due to what was used to make it. Hardwood ash is also extremely variable and very alkaline.

Since gardening is long-term and you are only being cautious, you might add rock minerals such as greensand. It has very slow (eon-scale!) K release, especially if your pH is high, and you may need a lot but a lot won't generally cause any problems.

Gardening is also local, so take all that with a grain of salt (poor source of K).


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