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Container Tomato

soilent_green
9 years ago

Picture taken today, I thought maybe folks would get a kick out of my container tomato plant. For scale purposes I am 6 feet 4 inches tall. Actual plant height (pot not included) is approximately 10 feet 6 inches.

Been growing these for years mainly for the "wow factor" when folks stop by to visit, but it does produce an abundance of early fruit. I started the plant indoors last March from saved seed. Tomato plant is an unknown, probably crossed, small fruited, indeterminate variety. I received the seed in a GW trade long ago, all I know is that it is not the variety that the person said it was. By my reckoning it is not a true cherry type, more of a very small beefsteak type (if that makes any sense or is even possible) because of the way it sets fruit.

Plant is still growing strongly, blooming and setting fruits way up at the top. Its days are numbered as we are now past due for a killing frost.

Container is a tad undersized...

-Tom

Comments (17)

  • zzackey
    9 years ago

    That's an awesome plant. Sun golds grow 10 feet tall. What do your tomatoes look like?

  • soilent_green
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Plant is not a Sun Gold, which I believe is a hybrid variety. The original seed that I received may have been harvested, saved, and then traded improperly as Sun Gold, but I do not recall ever seeking or acquiring this variety. Been hearing a lot of buzz about Sun Golds, may have to try them although I am not a huge fan of cherry types in general.

    My plant puts out sweet, red, thin peeling, thick walled, 1.50 to 1.75 inch diameter tomatoes in five count clusters. I am usually able to start harvesting them by mid July. I do not consider them excellent, just interesting.

  • drew51 SE MI Z5b/6a
    9 years ago

    It's amazing they grew that tall where you are at! That is what is amazing! Good job!! Wow! Yeah I would grow them just for the wow factor too!

  • gardener_sandy
    9 years ago

    Yes, definitely WOW! I'd like to know how you fertilized it and what soil it's growing in. Others may be interested in purchasing or trading seeds of this plant if you're willing to part with some.

  • zzackey
    9 years ago

    Sun Golds are sweet also. We had two plants and we gave away several pounds of them, ate them and gave a few to the chickens each day and still had some left over.

  • soilent_green
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I use my own soil mix for all my container plants, mix it by the wheelbarrow load as needed. Ratio is approximately 50 percent native soil, 10 percent potting soil, 40 percent homemade compost mixed with pure leaf mold. I throw in a cupful of granular 10-10-10 fert, a cupful of perlite, and a couple handfuls of peat. Not a "magic" mix by any means, but it is cheap and it works.

    During summer I occasionally water using a water soluble fertilizer that is mixed at half strength. Have never seen the need to use full strength, just seems a waste of money to me. Last time this plant was fertilized was early August.

    As far as I am concerned the big secret to growing successful container plants is to use correct pot size (too big is far better than too small), to water plants using captured rainwater only, and to water plants frequently, as required, being careful to avoid over-watering.

    Note one of my rainwater collecting barrels right behind the plant...

    This tomato plant needs to be watered twice per day, takes two gallons of water each time. I mulch the soil surface with dried lawn grass clippings to aid in moisture retention. I acquired a container for next year's plant that is five gallons larger, should also help with moisture retention. I have been wanting to wrap the pot in white reflective material to see if that would help but I never get around to doing it. It would definitely help to space the pot off the concrete in high summer but this time of year the concrete acting like a heat sink helps keep the soil and roots warm overnight.

    I have lots of fresh seed from this plant. For anyone interested, I occasionally do online seed trades and giveaways but not until winter when the busy gardening season is over. I am not responding to emails at this time, too much of a distraction for me. Look for me over on the GW Seed Exchange as I poke around there quite a bit during the winter off season, or email me sometime in January.

    I may skip this variety next year and try a Sun Gold instead. Am getting kinda bored with it, time to try something different.

    Happy Gardening!
    -Tom

    This post was edited by soilent_green on Mon, Sep 29, 14 at 12:46

  • elisa_z5
    9 years ago

    Ha!
    With apologies to your wife or girlfriend, I keep thinking what great material this photo would be for a farmersonly .com commercial.

    Voice over: Tom has no one to keep him company except this one tomato plant . . .

  • daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)
    9 years ago

    Wow. In the heat of the summer, you can relax in the shade of your, um, tomato tree.

  • drew51 SE MI Z5b/6a
    9 years ago

    Yeah cool, I'll find you in the dead of winter, i would like to try that variety too. Although i'm not sure how I will trellis such a beast! I had an excellent year myself. My freezer is full of sauce right now, and the cabinets with canned sauce too. I had so much I had to freeze and can! I made diced tomatoes too, and salsa....

  • soilent_green
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    "Ha!
    With apologies to your wife or girlfriend, I keep thinking what great material this photo would be for a farmersonly .com commercial.

    Voice over: Tom has no one to keep him company except this one tomato plant ..." - I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there. (I know I am in trouble when I start quoting Larry the Cable Guy.)

    Thanks a lot - now I have that jingle stuck in my head, "Tomatoes only dot commmm." LOL

    I do talk to my plants - is that a bad sign?

    This plant is trellised using rebar and PVC. Some of the PVC horizontals are visible towards the top. The plant is in this location so that it is sheltered from the winds to keep it from blowing over, and the porch roof and the building keep it from falling in those two directions. Last year I ran a wire tie from a planter hook under the porch fascia to one of the rebar rods, but neglected to tie it this year.

    Drew51 - I am jealous. I harvested only one crate, tomatoes were terrible in my area this year. My plants got crippled from flooding, neighbors lost all theirs to blight. Local markets had few available for sale. Last week I traded a couple bushels of apples for an equal amount of tomatoes with a friend of a friend who lives an hour and a half away. That is how desperate things got.

    -Tom

  • elisa_z5
    9 years ago

    Glad you liked your commercial.
    And yeah, that jingle is waaaay too catchy.

    I talk to my plants too. I think it's a sign of brilliance. :)

  • writtenonwater
    9 years ago

    I definitely love my sungolds. It was my first year growing them, but they were the winner out of the ~10 varieties they grew this year. They're small, but they're extremely sweet and productive.

  • drew51 SE MI Z5b/6a
    9 years ago

    Drew51 - I am jealous. I harvested only one crate, tomatoes were terrible in my area this year

    Many in my area had a bad year too, I used a cold frame and got an early start. The spring was cold, and the frame helped protect and raise temps. Although I can only fit so many in the frame. I'm still harvesting, just about done. I went out Monday and picked any showing any blush of color, time to bring them in. Not many left out there anyway..

  • soilent_green
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Drew51 - Nice tomatoes, thanks for posting photo. One that immediately caught my eye is the pleated one placed in the immediate front corner of the square bowl center back of photo. Out of curiosity would you happen to remember the name of that variety?

    Following is a photo showing tomatoes that I got from a friend a couple of days ago. Their tomato plants have not been hit by hard frost yet.

    My container tomato tree is still healthy and growing, no hard frost up by the house yet. It is now approximately 12 feet tall, 13.5 feet tall with pot included.

    My gardens are done, now doing cleanup and prep for fall garlic/shallot/potato onion planting. I consider fall planting the start of the next growing season, which makes me happy. Only catch is that I have to put up with that "slight" delay called winter.

  • Pyewacket
    9 years ago

    Make sure all your windows and doors are securely locked. Especially if you start hearing humming coming from that plant ...

    They start out looking so innocent!

  • drew51 SE MI Z5b/6a
    9 years ago

    Soilent green, that is either Costoluto Genovese sel Valente or Russo Sicilian Togetta. Both really good for sauce only. Why I grow them. Both look rather alike.
    I can send you seeds when you send me seeds of the beast you have. You need to name that!

    Zen, yes that plants looks like it talks! Yikes! It has lips!

    I keep notes and descriptions on all the varieties I have. Here they are for the two mentioned. Note though Russo is inderterminate for sure.

    Rosso Sicilian -
    Maturity midseason
    Growth habit indet.
    Leaf type regular
    Fruit color red
    Fruit shape hollow, ribbed
    Fruit size small
    Fruit type stuffer, paste
    Variety type heirloom
    Country Italy
    (aka Russo Sicilian Togetta) Italian heirloom brought by a Sicilian man
    to the U.S. in 1987; given to Ann Fuller of Mitchell, Indiana, who said
    its slices look like red-petaled flowers (rosso means âÂÂredâÂÂ). Striking
    crayfish red costoluta (ribbed) fruits weigh up to 6 ounces. Firm pithy
    flesh is perfect for making tomato sauce or paste. Thin skin bruises
    easily. Determinate. 70-90 days from transplant.
    Purchased From Seed Savers Exchange

    Costoluto Genovese sel Valente
    Maturity midseason
    Growth habit indet.
    Leaf type regular
    Fruit color red
    Fruit shape irregular, ribbed, beefsteak
    Fruit size medium
    Fruit type slicer
    Variety type open-pollinated, heirloom
    Country Italy
    VF Indeterminate. A vigorous, high producing plant with brilliant red
    fruit of 8-10 ounces. Fruit are somewhat flattened and have pronounced
    ribs and excellent taste. This selection has resistance to fusarium &
    vert. wilts. Also makes a very good sauce. A good mid-season tomato
    (75-80 days).
    Purchashed from Seeds From Italy

    In the first photo from the other day that tomato is probably Costoluto. Here is a photo fo two Russo's. They are in general smaller than Costoluto. Some are more ribbed than these, they vary a lot. Much more symetrical than Costoluto. I would grow both plants again. Both produce well.

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    Some other photos from this year's harvest, Not all Costoluto's are symetrical, see the one on the right.
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    This post was edited by Drew51 on Fri, Oct 10, 14 at 0:39

  • soilent_green
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    zensojourner - They may be our plants, but it is we who are living in their world. I remember back when she was just a cute, cuddly little tomato seedling. She is so demanding now, always talking down to me...

    Drew51 - Thanks for the information. Can I assume that if those two varieties are thin-skinned a person does not have to remove skins as part of the processing?

    Yes I would be interested in a trade sometime this winter. I am always on the lookout for varieties that would impart a more robust flavor for my sauces. Modern hybrid types such as are in that last photo I posted are wonderful for their production and uniformity, but I find their flavor to be quite bland and insipid. Not that I am complaining about getting free stuff...

    I use modern hybrids as well as my own oxheart paste types that I have been developing as bulk ingredient for processing. I add heirlooms for flavor. Seems to work. The meaty and dry/hollow oxhearts and large pastes really cut down on processing time regarding evaporation/thickening of sauces.

    What I am always on the lookout for are varieties with above average concentrated flavor. I am starting to think it logical to seek out authentic Italian varieties.

    As for naming that tomato variety, I never get around to thinking about that, plus for all I know it already has a name and I just do not know it. It does get old having reference names such as "Unknown Tall Indeterminate Cherry Type that Produces 1.75 Diameter Fruit that Compare Better to Beefsteaks than to Cherries, Grows Well in Containers". LOL

    Just for fun, how about the name "Icarus"?

    -Tom

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