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Design help for a fella who just plants randomly

Posted by toronado3800 Z6 St. Louis (My Page) on
Sun, Jan 24, 10 at 1:55

That's me. I'm good about not planting the "oak under the power lines" type wrong tree in the wrong place but sometimes need help with a plan.

I frequent the tree forum and love planting the smaller than average mail order transplants. It applies to my cheap side and its pretty neat to watch them grow from almost nothing as well. So I'm more than willing to put up with a year or two of a chicken wire fence in my yard just so I can afford to plant a variegated something or other I couldn't find locally.

So what would you all put in this spot where I'm removing the big splitting white ash? My current idea is a slightly smaller tree in front of the stump and a much smaller or severely conical tree about ten feet "behind" that stump.

About 35 feet from the soon to die ash I have a metasequoia gold rush so I THINK that ornamental tree between the stump and it should be a darker leaved fella. Cherokee Chief Dogwood if I didn't have a white and two pink Cornus Floridas already.

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RE: Design help for a fella who just plants randomly

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sun, Jan 24, 10 at 14:39

Maybe something with purple leaves.


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RE: Design help for a fella who just plants randomly

I would suggest that scale rather than color should be a more important consideration. The temporal changes with time of any new planting should fit in with the surviving trees. If the existing trees are likely to need removing, by the time the others mature, then which tree will set the scale for the property?

Another consideration, is a tree needed as an accent for this side of the house or would taller shrubbery work better?


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thanks in advance for being patient with me.

When I think of shrubbery I think of large yews or boxwoods. Had some of those covering the whole front of the garage and hiding the window. I removed that and planted them two smaller Shrubs off to the side of the window.

Or do you mean a Crape Myrtle type plant placed in the yard ten to fifteen feet from the house? I keep telling myself a small, thinner branched tree would be a good choice.

Now that you mention it, this is the north side of my house and I do dislike the limited airflow/high mold effect.


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RE: Design help for a fella who just plants randomly

Are you planning on removing the stumps? The Redwood I'm sure you already know will take time to get the effect you want and it looks like it is placed well. I see a picknick table in the pic. Is this a permanent patio/entertaining area? I also noticed the recycling and garbage containers. Can these be moved to another area or is this the most usefull place for them? I agree that this side of the home could use a large shrub. If you are concerned with airflow and I do see the airconditioner witch you don't want to cover, a free flowing shrub would be best. I have had good results with the Artic blue basket willow as well as the Nishiki willow. I also noticed that the beds that suround the house appear small. Can they be widened, say to 5 ft.? They look to be about 3 ft. on the pics. What do you already have planted in these areas? Could you repeat some of these plantings around to this area? The reason for this is some existing plants could be split and transplanted to that side and save yourself some money.


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  • Posted by rhodium New England Z6 (My Page) on
    Wed, Jan 27, 10 at 10:10

How come the grass isn't green over the septic field?

Maybe a nice evergreen for some contrast?


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RE: Design help for a fella who just plants randomly

Wow, what tree were you up in to take that photo?

Looks like a great place, with lots of scope. I wonder if you are reflexively putting a replacement tree there because you like trees and there has always been one. I can see the point of trees to the west and south of the house, but north? The way I understand it, some evergreens there for protection from wind in winter is all you might need there, and they needn't be right at the house. In short, I'd be putting the trees further away and doing other kinds of gardening, or even just grass/patio, closer to the house.

The other queries have essentially asked the important questions: what do you do in this yard besides plant trees? And what can the trees do for those areas? The trees guide views, make shade, and provide services to the house (shade/shelter), but are also a source of debris, root invasion, and threat in wind. So they have very pragmatic aspects besides just being great things and botanical fun, which I totally relate to.

Planting trees around structures and amenities shouldn't be a random act if you want the trees to have a long and happy life.

KarinL


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RE: Design help for a fella who just plants randomly

Thanks for the tips. Design is not my strong point and its good to just get me thinking about this.

The stumps from the new tree I'm going to saw down to ground level and let nature take its course.

The yellow patch in the front yard is from zoisa grass going dormant. The stuff is spreading all around my yard. I don't particularly like it especially in the winter but removal from the mostly sun areas seems like more trouble than its worth.

Nice catch with the dumpsters. They've been moved to a spot dead center in back of the house where I used to keep the hose coiled up in.

I have Hostas all over the house and will consider spreading them to that planting area in front. Right now I have two mahonia compactas growing in front of the garage and some Thuja Occidentalis 'Snow Tip" Arborvitaes. at the corners of the porch.

Karnyl, I very much am planting new trees out of a sense of replacement coupled with liking the big fellas quite a bit. If it wasn't splitting up I'd love to leave that big ash in place. Instead I keep considering putting something one step smaller in its place. Them big ash just have too much of a spread for that spot when open grown.

Oh yeah, and I was up in a lift cutting down a rotting silver maple when I took that pic.


 
 

 

 


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