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- Posted by jessinpiner 6a (My Page) on Thu, Apr 22, 10 at 19:07
| By the way, if you can't see it, I've planted (in the front, in order from left to right, in front of the taxuses sp? haha) Emerald Euonymous and then the same on the other side of course. |
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| It may be a regional thing but, to me, there are too many evergreens. Old famwhouses, to me, mean lots of big old-fashioned deciduous shrubs like lilacs, bridalwreath spireas, beautybush, snowball bushes, hydrangeas... It needs the liveliness of color and movement from arching shrubs and flowers. But then 'farmhouse' may mean something completely different to you. |
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| I think those shrubs are massively overgrown for the space and need to be substantially cut back or removed. But I also think you need to find your way between the formal foundation planting the house has and what you envision for the house and yard as a whole, which might be more along the lines of what Woody describes, which I like. Those shrubs would not be at the foundation but out in the yard as free standing specimens, perhaps with garden beds connecting. Certainly not at the foundation. Finally, it may not be symmetry you're after but balance. That can consist of equivalent plant forms, or groupings of plants of equal visual weight on either side. KarinL |
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- Posted by wellspring (My Page) on Fri, Apr 23, 10 at 12:18
| Just curious ... How much ground is this house situated on? First recommendation: Break yourself of the habit of thinking that your primary role as your own designer is to plant plants. Your thinking "family home" and "farmhouse", "country" and "pulled together". Great goal. Keep it as a constant touchstone. Let it help you move away from thinking that a few perennials and annuals are going to resolve your design objectives. Farmhouse, country, honoring a tradition?, pulled together. What needs to be kept, or stripped away, added or subtracted or re-oriented in order to better accomplish your vision? A friend of mine has the loveliest farmhouse porch I’ve ever visited. It’s pretty simple. She has the space for two large rockers and an old carved church pew. I hear her talk about different ways she marks the seasons with her door wreaths, something she enjoys creating. She also gets tons of mileage for the re-use of an old water trough complete with pump handle. She’s turned it into a planter and it’s where she tries different annual displays each year. But that’s it as far as foundation planting. The trough is a few feet in front of one side of the porch. Other shrubs, as described above, are located away from the foundation. I think she told me she is considering a climbing rose on a trellis at one corner of her porch, but that’s because it’s one of the few places where she feels a rose might do well. I say it’s lovely, because of the number of times a group of us have gathered there. There’s a feel to it. Nothing fussy. Yet I constantly hear others oooh and ahhh over the setting. So I guess I’m assuming it works somehow. My point is that symmetry isn’t the issue. Someone above suggested balance. I think that’s right, but even before that I think you need to give yourself permission to do something different from what you’ve been persuaded is "right". Why did you plant these symmetrical beds? What if your house, and the porch, and the approach to your porch is better served by thinking differently about what, where, and whether to plant anything? |
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| The beds appear too thight. My feeling from the pics is to give some hight to the home with some upright evergreens on each end. Then use the deciduous shrubs like mentioned. Sweep the beds down along the walkway. Under plant with perinnials. When I say this I don't be afraid to go large as in the size of the beds. This is a great opportunity to give depth and color to the area. It really has a great feel to me. Good luck and have fun with this. |
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- Posted by jessinpiner 6a (My Page) on Tue, Apr 27, 10 at 11:55
| Ok, so I've taken all of your ideas into consideration and put together something in Photoshop (which I'm not very good at, but learning). Am I'm getting into "too busy" now?! I personally like it, however I don't want others to think it's too much. By the way, all plants in this photo are ones somewhere on our land. Some may not be this mature, but at least I wouldn't have to go out and get them! BTW, for whoever asked, we are on 20 acres. The house itself is on about an acre, fenced in |
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- Posted by missingtheobvious Blue Ridge 7a (My Page) on Tue, Apr 27, 10 at 14:00
| Your mock-up is a great improvement over what you have now. Two things occur to me. First, I think there needs to be something much wider and more massive at the corners than the narrow triangular conifers. I'd prefer rectangles (unshaped, not sheared) over triangles -- but if you do use triangles, center them on the corners of the house. For instance -- I'm going into picky detail here -- at the right corner you've got the tall triangular conifer. Judging by the width of the front door and the windows, that conifer is probably about 3 1/2 - 4' in diameter at the ground, and should have been planted so the back edge is at least a foot from the house (to minimize moss on the clapboards and allow for maintenance to the house). So the front of the triangular conifer is 4 1/2 - 5' from the house. In front of that is the round green shrub. It looks about 5' wide. So the front of this shrub is about 9 1/2 - 10' from the house. In front of that is the white-flowered hydrangea (peony?). It looks about 6' wide. Let's assume it's two plants next to each other (rather than one of 6' diameter), and is only 3 - 4' deep. So the front of these plants is about 12 1/2' - 14' from the house. And in front of the white-flowered plants is a low, moundy green thing about 5 1/2' wide. Let's assume it's two plants also, about 3' deep. At this point, the depth of the flowerbed is 15 1/2 - 17' deep. How far is it from the house to the lowest step? I'm guessing it's about 9 - 10'? |
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| If you got the space, then simply keep those evergreens as a unifying evergreen backdrop for the decidous and perennial display of color and texture you are thinking about in your photoshop mock up. Besides yanking out those big shrubs will be a chore and you'll probably regret it. If after a season of the colorful seasonal parade in front of the steady as she goes evergreen foundation plantings you don't like it, then rip them out. |
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- Posted by frankie_in_zone_7 (My Page) on Tue, Apr 27, 10 at 16:04
| I don't have the skills to be able to take this far enough, but I think you need a different approach. Even though the house is square and symmetrical, its setting is much looser. You want to back way up (with camera and thinking) and think about the house within its setting. Go back to some posts on thinking about how you want to use and experience your property. At some point I think the actual plantings will need small trees, farther away from the house. The current approach of having everything tight up against the siding looks wrong, to me. This is not a general anti-foundation planting concern--it has to do with the fact that your property is more expansive, and so it doesn't help to look as though you are limited to 6-8 feet out from the foundation, as though the house is girding itself from the surrounding acre. That also addresses the height of the house--you can't get tall enough item planted that closely--the tight columnar forms look wrong--compared to small ornamental trees softening the corners. Try more of an aerial or overhead drawing of the house and property and not the frontal or elevation views, for now. Use more space. Or something like that. |
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