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| Hello everyone,
I love reading through these forums for your "expert" advice. I always enjoyed gardening, but have so much more to learn! Thank you in advance for reading my lengthy post, and for your time and suggestions. Background:
My dilemma:
The front of our home has southern exposure, which means it gets a lot of hot sun, all day long in the summer. The side of the house is eastern exposure. It too gets a lot of sun, but it's early in the day. The back of our home faces north. Aside from some morning sun slanting from the east, it's shaded all day long. I am trying to plant a flowerbed with shrubs and perennials that look cohesive despite the variations in exposure and levels. Review the pics below to see what I mean. Here is a photo of the front, southeast corner of our home and flowerbed. I currently have lavender near the front porch steps. I then staggered green gem boxwood and dark pink double knockout roses. I have silvermound planted in front of those.
East section of the flowerbed, top level. Here, I don't have much. Not sure how to continue the foundation landscaping. I don't necessarily need to cover the stonework. All I have thus far is a yellow coreopsis, three sedum, a couple of redhead perennial grasses that grow on top of the wall (they frame the view to our backyard nicely, I think), and a few pink coneflowers.
East section, bottom level. Here I planted a Sandra Bernhard peony against the wall. I also have a couple of Wine and Roses weigelia on either end of this section.
Rear view of side, north section (Gotta love yellow siding. Power-washing is on our to-do list this spring!) I only have a couple of yellow and pink coneflowers I stuck in the ground beneath the wall after moving them from elsewhere. Not a good spot for them, since it's so shady.
Thoughts? Again, I am looking for a nice mix of shrubs and perennials. I am willing to move my existing plants as needed. My garden also needs to be deer-resistant. I already have daylilies and roses in the front that I must spray to repel the deer, so I don't want to add any more to the mix. I also don't want anything invasive! I am currently considering the following plants, but am not sure of the layout, or how they would look with my existing plants:
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- Posted by designoline6 none (My Page) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 20:03
| Sorry, I often can't open these "imbed" pics.it need some programs in the computer. You upload photo to any photo-hosting site.Photobucket and Flickr are examples . While at that photo on the site, look for a link to "share." Then look for a way of obtaining "html code" (don't select the thumbnail version.) Copy that code and paste it directly into your message here. ----any computers can see your pics. |
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- Posted by miconsumer (My Page) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 21:00
| So sorry! And I spent so much time reading about how to embed images and do it the "right" way. Obviously, they show up just fine on my computer. Let's see if either of these options works. If so, I'll post the rest of them. Please let me know. Here is a link to a photo of the front our home, so you get a sense of the big picture. http://www2.snapfish.com/snapfish/slideshow/AlbumID=9554072013/Picture ID=493922472013/a=120031640_120031640/otsc=SHR/otsi=SPIClink/COBRAND_N AME=snapfish/ Here is my attempt at an embedded version the same pic, but this time the URL is from a different photo-hosting website. |
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- Posted by miconsumer Zone 5 - MI (My Page) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 22:19
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- Posted by designoline6 none (My Page) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 23:16
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- Posted by miconsumer (My Page) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 23:35
| Thank you designonline6. It's come a looong way. Actually, where you show coneflower in the front by the lightpost, I already have some planted there! I'm not concerned with that section so much as the bed that wraps around the front and side of the house. The side had new hardscaping as of last summer, so it needs the most work. I want to tie the areas together so it is a cohesive look, and am not sure how to position everything. I also want deer-resistant, perennial plants and shrubs. Again, I've been considering hydrangeas, perennial geraniums creeping phlox and maybe even more perennial grasses. But, where should I plant what perennial? And should I move some of my existing plants? I don't have a good vision of how to tie it all together, and have it not look too random. Not to mention, there are a lot of perspectives at play here - front, side, rear... I feel like the standard "tall plants in back" doesn't always apply. |
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- Posted by designoline6 none (My Page) on Fri, Apr 27, 12 at 23:35
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| Add "and a shrub" to my note. And the right side of house seems to beg for some 12' tall sized flowering shrub/tree. It's empty except right at the ground. |
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- Posted by designoline6 none (My Page) on Sat, Apr 28, 12 at 1:05
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- Posted by miconsumer 5 (My Page) on Sat, Apr 28, 12 at 9:43
| Thank you both for your suggestions! Yaardvark, I like your design for the bottom area. What type of flowering shrubs would do well in that location? Would the hydrangeas work? It is pretty shaded most of the day, northern exposure. The tree in your sketch looks nice, but I don't want it to get so tall it affects the view of our backyard from the frontyard, as I like the perspective. Check out one of my top photos to see what I mean. Are there dwarf varieties of flowering trees with a slow growth habit? Also, do you have any recommendations for the side, by my stonye foundation, and on the lower level near the weigelia and peony? I can post another pic with a more complete view of the side of the house. |
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| I'm from z5 originally (northern Ill.) and Hydrangea macrophylla was grown, but bloom iffy because the flower buds frequently froze during the winter. Don't know how it would be where you are. As the single shrub in the picture, Hydrangea arborescens 'Annabelle' might be a possibility... a little large, but sure flowering and workable. Or a nice big, fat Hosta would work instead. For a groundcover, I'd consider Convallaria majalis or Asarum canadense. For the tree, Lilac, or an old fashioned favorite of mine is Kolkwitzia amabilis. While grown quite a bit in z5 trying to keep it as a 3' or 4' ht. shrub, I think this 100% contrary to its nature. It makes a good very large shrub (which would not work for you here) or a small tree, which would. So would PG Hydrangea, Philadelphus coronarius, Euonymus alatus 'Compacta' and a host of other choices depending on the exact flavor you're looking for. For the "color" area, you might consider Astilbe or the colored foliage (and flowers) of Heuchera sanguinea. Your thread didn't offer a good square on shot of the side of house. However, it looks like one thing you need is some groundcover to link the disparate plants. If you put a good picture up, I'd take a look at the shrubs. One planting scheme that is guaranteed to look unsophisticated is alternating, disparate shrubs. While "cute," nothing says amateurish quite like that does. I'd reconfigure near the front steps. Here are plant suggestions... or re-use what you have in a better way, or some of those new things you're after. The silver mound would work as a groundcover if there were a lot more of it. |
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- Posted by miconsumer 5 (My Page) on Sat, Apr 28, 12 at 15:16
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- Posted by miconsumer 5 (My Page) on Sat, Apr 28, 12 at 17:28
| Yardvaark, thanks also for the specific flower suggestions. The Kolkwitzia amabilis looks like it might be a good option. I love Hosta, but so do our resident four-legged critters. They are like deer and bunny dessert so I don't bother planting them. Lily of the Valley makes me nervous because of how poisonous they are. I realize many plants are, but their scent is so enticing, and it makes me nervous since I have a small child. So...this is why I'm wondering if perennial geraniums or similar might be useful. As for Coralbells, don't they require a lot of sun? They definitely won't' get that on the north side of our house. The Astilbe just might work, if they will tolerate the sandy soil... Agh! This is why I go crazy. I do appreciate the suggestions. |
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| Given the wealth of poisonous plants in proximity to homes, it would not occur to me to not teach children not to eat them, or to leave them alone with the plants until they've learned. Just me. At the front, I would try NOT to cover a lot of the foundation. As a groundcover, the Geranium would be too tall for my taste. I'd be looking for something that stayed below 6". I may not hit on just the right plant solution for you. I'm more trying to show you a layout. You can research more about the plants locally and online to find what is just right for you. Or someone else here may have a better suggestion. |
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| I wasn't finished when I pressed the wrong button and sent the last post. I was explaining that often when I draw the plant I don't know what it is and the plant suggestion comes later. That explains why the rec. of Viburnum carelesii is shown with lavender flowers when they're really white. If you don't know that plant, it's a delicious smelling thing and an attractive shrub, too. But there are many others that would work in that spot. |
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| Around the loop of the driveway would be a better place for the roses. Find a spot sunny enough and make a real rose garden out of it. Plant the roses so they grow one into the next. Roses of the sort you have make terrible foundation shrubs because of the dramatic pruning they need each year and because their forms are, frankly, UGLY without flowers. You can add to them, too, over time and expand your bed, and you'll be able to see the roses better from inside the house. |
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- Posted by miconsumer 5 (My Page) on Sun, Apr 29, 12 at 12:29
| Thanks again. I do appreciate everyone's time and input. I don't mind putting effort into finding specific plant options (I've logged several hours thus far), but have had a very difficult time figuring out how to make the front, side, and back cohesive, while dealing with the different light exposures. So, any and all specific suggestions are much appreciated! And, of course I teach my child not to eat plants. I also realize there are many, many poisonous plants. But, there is something about Lily of the Valley. I remember being fascinated by it as a small child, due to it's miniature size and bell shape, exceptional scent, etc. So, I just don't care to have it around until I have older children. Just my preference, even if it seems odd. |
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