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| what the heck is up with this Pay Pal Thing????????????????
I see more and more traders will not send or receive postage now if you don't have pay pal. I don't get it. When are stamps not good enough? I don't have it and I don't want it. Is this the new trend? Seems like Trading with so many wonderful people will soon be Impersonal. I love getting and sending stamps and a personal note for trades. SAD if you ask me. |
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| When I send plants for postage I don't require Paypal but it does make the exchange easier and faster since you don't have to wait for payment via snail mail. I can't really see requesting a Paypal payment instead of stamps for a seed for postage offer. |
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| I see more and more traders will not send or receive postage now if you don't have pay pal. I don't get it. The posts I have made are not trades but instead Plants for Postage Offers. Actual trades don't require postage... I am one of those members (not a trader) who is offering up plants for postage. Since I am digging and dividing huge clumps of things, it is necessary to have all postage received before I start digging, or else plants may sit and sit until postage arrives via snail mail. Recently I offered up some plants and told the member I could accept Paypal, or a Money Order, but no checks. Well guess what I received...yep, you guessed it, a personal check. I also won't accept stamps for Plants for Postage offers because I have no need for massive amounts of postage stamps. I do not use them on packages, as I mail Priority Mail, and have home pick-up. I have only been using the new Regional (flat) rate boxes which in most cases saves a considerable amount on postage. When using the Regional (flat) rate boxes, postage must be printed and prepaid at home or office as opposed to being paid at the PO window. In my first recent 'Plants for Postage offer I posted this, "I will be making other posts with other daylilies and things I will be shovel pruning. If you miss out because of not having Paypal, perhaps you can think of a friend or someone who could cover it for you. ". |
Here is a link that might be useful: scroll down for Priority Mail Regional Rate Box Commercial Base Prices
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- Posted by woodthrush z4PA (My Page) on Mon, Jul 4, 11 at 12:39
| Paypal for plants for postage makes it so much easier and faster. You wouldn't believe the number of people that will jump on an offer for plants for postage, but never send the postage. You can use cash, e-checks or your credit card on your paypal acct. It's easy and fast. |
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- Posted by littleonefb z5MA (My Page) on Mon, Jul 4, 11 at 23:11
| Aquawise, it appears that you are not understanding the posts that you are referring to. In other words, you don't seem to understand the difference between a trader and a member that is offering plants for postage. You don't understand the difference between a trade and an offer of plants, tubers rhizomes for postage; and that is why you are have problems understanding the use of paypal by some members. A trade is something that is done between 2 members and they agree on the items that will be traded. Each member pays for and sends their end of the trade directly to the other member and the only thing that goes between the members is what was traded between the 2 members. Postage is not sent between members, and any attempt at using paypal for a trade would be against the forum rules and be considered selling and that is not allowed. When a member offers various plants, divisions, etc. for postage, then the member that wants to participate in the offer must send the required postage to send the plants. That is where the use of paypal gets involved. The cost of sending plants is quite a bit higher than sending seeds, considerably more and must be sent in a box, properly packed and sent fairly quickly after being dug and packed. The ease of using paypal gets the money to the member that is sending the plants etc. quickly and also gets the plants off to their knew home quickly as well. The costs can range anywhere from $4.97 all the way up to $14.62 and that's just for postage, it doesn't include the purchase of a box, if that is done. Stamps, as you state "you love" are wonderful for seed trades, seeds for postage, but the idea of waiting for stamps to put on a box of plants to send off just doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense to me and I would guess to most people. It makes far more sense to use paypal, and it's so easy to use, quick, convenient and gets those precious plants out in the mail and received so much quicker. Paypal is not for trades, or for seeds for postage either, as you are indicating in you post and questions. It is for the ease, convenience, speed and safety for both parties involved in a plants for postage offer and nothing more. Seems to me to be a great idea, great way to do things and works well. Fran |
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| littleonefb~~Fran~ I DO! understand I am not STUPID!!!! You go to far with all that babble. I know what it is and how it works, SHEeeeeeeesh. Understand my #**. I have been trading for years! here and other forums. I do plants for postage all the time. I do not dig them until I get the postage. I Have had many, many people JUMP on an offer and never send the postage. I require that the check or money order be made out to the USPS and not me. Saves me a trip to the Bank. Just seems like a risky thing to have your CC info out there for someone to steal. At 60 years old my puter skills are limited, and this is just way over my head. There will be a lot less trading for me if this is the new trend, just don't want them that bad. I guess I am to old and careful to go too this kind of think. Just wanted to know how others felt about this trend! Not to have my intelligence insulted! Cannot say that this question was answered all that well, BUT!! I DO KNOW HOW TRADING FOR POSTAGE WORKS! |
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| Gayla if a member that I was sending plants for postage to made out a check to the USPS it would do me absolutely no good. My PO requires ID for writing checks and wouldn't accept an out of state (or even an in state) check from someone not presenting it in person. |
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| Saves me a trip to the Bank. Well accepting Paypal, not only saves me a trip to the bank, a trip to the PO, and a trip to town, it also saves the member paying the postage since I do the Commercial Regional (flat) Rate boxes. I too doubt if my PO would accept a check from me made out to the USPS, that was on a bank in another state, and signed by someone else...seems to me like that would open themselves up to getting a lot of bad checks.... |
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| Works for me! I asked our PO lady if this was ok before I ever asked the trader to do so. Guess we are all due for some changes in how we do things on this forum. Me! I my just quit doing plants here at all. A lot of good plants will end up in the trash. Sad. |
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- Posted by littleonefb z5MA (My Page) on Tue, Jul 5, 11 at 11:45
| Well Aqua, Your post office and the employee in it are breaking the regulations that the post office has and listed on their own website as well. I would venture to guess that if "higher ups" find out what she is doing, she may not have a job, and you will no longer be able to pay for postage the way you have been. From the PO website You can also pay for postage using these more traditional methods: Cash - Paying with cash at the Post Office� is quick and easy. As you can see it states "Personal checks require two forms of ID." If you are paying with someone else's check that is written out to the PO, you can not provide 2 forms of ID to verify you are that person. |
Here is a link that might be useful: paying for postage, regulations from PO website.
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- Posted by littleonefb z5MA (My Page) on Tue, Jul 5, 11 at 13:03
| < I DO KNOW HOW TRADING FOR POSTAGE WORKS!" How pray tell does one trade something for postage. If the member is paying the postage for plants, etc to be sent to them, that is not a trade no matter how one tries to make it sound like it is. A trade is the exchange of plants, etc from one member to another and the other member, in turn, sends plants etc in exchange. Whether they are equal amounts or not is something that the 2 members decide on between each other. Sending seeds, plants, divisions, cuttings etc. to a member after the member sends the required amount of postage is not a trade. Again, it is you that just doesn't understand the difference between a trade and offers for postage which are not a trade, at least they are not a trade on GW. Maybe they are on other forums that you are/have been on, but not on GW and that has not changed in the more than 8 years I have been on GW. Fran |
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| This is another reason I shy away from Pay pal! One Lady wrote! I discovered a few years ago that paypal installs all sorts of stuff on your computer that is invisible and phones home frequently. Who knows what kind of information it's uploading! I had to make 11 firewall rules for one computer to finally keep paypal from phoning home. Another thing, once paypal is on your computer it is virtually impossible to remove all of it .. shades of AOL. |
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| I have to say I'm with you Gayla,I prefer to do it all the old fashion way!I don't offer plants for postage but if I did I would give the people a time limit the offer is good for and if I have not received the required stamps during that time then its there loss.I would never dig plants ahead of time.I can see why some people use paypal for the convinence of it.I to mail from home but I just put the postage on it and leave it in the mailbox.I disagree about the plants for postage trade though.I have and would trade plants for postage plus extra postage.A trade is when you both receive something.I don't list trades that way but many times you have none members or memebrs for that matter asking for a trade via e-mail(I have had that happen many times)if they want to send postage for it and the same amount of postage for my end of the trade well that works for me.I got something back for my troubles and what goes on in personal e-mails is just between that person and me.Thats my 2 cent added! |
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| Thanks deb..This Thread got OT really bad. |
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- Posted by woodthrush z4PA (My Page) on Thu, Jul 7, 11 at 5:31
| I've never had paypal call me. I use a separate email acct for paypal, and I have never rec'd any kind of spam from paypal. They, like any thing else new, may have had a bumpy start, but it runs very smooth now. I see more and more on-line shops accepting paypal too. And I would bet that garden web puts more cookies and tracking devices on your computer than you realize. |
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| " And I would bet that garden web puts more cookies and tracking devices on your computer than you realize. " That's for sure! |
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