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Seed help....coconut lime echinacea..coneflower

Posted by beverlysc 8a SC (My Page) on
Tue, Sep 8, 09 at 22:02

I need some help here. I have coconut lime coneflowers and have seen the seeds offered on here. I have not been able to find the seeds on my dried flowers. Have checked a lot and still no sign of seeds anywhere on the flowers. Am I letting them dry to long on the plant or something??? Where's the seeds????? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks & happy gardening. Bev.


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RE: Seed help....coconut lime echinacea..coneflower

Hi:

I got 2 packets of seeds from this plant at a local seed swap, and there was nothing but chaff. (which I sowed anyway, but had no sprouts). While this could have been a mistake by the gardener, it may also show that this is a sterile plant. I'll be following this thread too, to see what others say. Plantfiles will state when a plant is sterile or doesn't come true, but sometimes it's wrong!

There are a lot of echinacea growers on the Perennials forum, and some of them cross their own plants. I bet someone there could give a definitive answer, if you don't get it here.


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RE: Seed help....coconut lime echinacea..coneflower

Hi Beverly! :)
I purchased a Green Jewel this season and it seems the seed that did develop is hollow. The Gold Finch haven't even paid it any mind. The Big Sky series I bought did produce nice solid seeds, and the Gold Finch had them gone by sunset the day I brought them home. I know we are talking about two different types here,but I am thinking our green ones don't produce viable seed.
I think it was bigred ( I am pretty sure it was her or possibly westtexaspeg),that said all of her coneflowers started from seed,such as Sundown,Sunset,Sunrise all produced purple babies,which has also been my experience. The purples I got from the above named seeds are different than my existing purples,but nonetheless still purple opposed to orange or yellow tones. I did some interesting reading and found that the parents of the Big Sky series are purple coneflower and Paradoxa. I know this seems off topic,but I am about to get to my point...lol...likely the green coneflowers are hybrids,and if they did produce viable seed they would not be true anyway.
I will keep an eye on this thread in hopes a coneflower guru will come along and give us some juicy info on these guys!
Good Luck!
:)
Angie


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RE: Seed help....coconut lime echinacea..coneflower

I have the purple Cone Flowers. Once the heads of the flowers turn completely black then I cut the heads off of them. The flowers have to have the heads black so that it turns to seeds. I then put into plastic bags to reseed them for the follwing spring. I would like some of these seeds you have. Try the following above it should help

Thanks Cheryl


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RE: Seed help....coconut lime echinacea..coneflower

Here you have ripe seedhead of White Swan at top of picture,you can see the seeds down in there...chaff to very far right,good seeds in the middle and seeds that are not likely to sprout,far left.As you can see,chaff is thin,dark needle-like,good seeds are off-white arrowhead shaped and plump.

Chances are,if you don't see a named varity offered by commercial source,they're either copyrighted or not viable. Every named echinacea(other than offered by seed houses) I've tried to grow from seed either didn't sprout or resulting seedlings had muddy purple coloring.


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