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You know what 'grinds my gears'?

Posted by token28001 zone7 NC (My Page) on
Sat, Dec 20, 08 at 9:44

First, let me say that I have had some really great trades on here. I've "met" some really nice people and gotten tons of seeds for my garden. I've sent out my share as well.

But what gets to me are the people who respond to your wants/haves and never follow-up. It's especially tiresome when it's a certain seed that you've been trying to get your hands on.

And another thing...When you buy seeds, and they say the pack contains 50 seeds, but you know just looking at it there's no way that's 50 seeds. So you count them. 22 seeds. TWENTY-TWO seeds in a pack that was supposed to contain 50. Now why can't their quality control be better than that?

There is a plus to all this though. I purchased the "Cherry Brandy" Rudbeckia from T&M this fall. The package says it contains an average of 50 seeds. I counted mine. I was curious. 141 seeds. WOOT!

So why can't other places fix the problem? And why don't people respond after exclaiming that they have/want what you need/have? I know life happens, but come on.

That's what grinds my gears. Thanks for letting me rant.


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machine packing can be very inconsistent, especially if the seed is very small, very light, or oddly shaped. it is usually done by the weight of the amount of seeds per pkt. sometimes even .01 of a gram discrepancy makes a huge difference in seed count; again, especially if the seed is tiny/light. sometimes the machine doesn't seal the package properly, also, leading to seed loss. then there is human error factor! if shorted, i would complain to the company. most will gladly send out another pkt.

i'm also irritated by people not following up on trades. what's up with that? if you changed your mind, just say so!


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forgot a major peeve--no dates on trade pages! AND, although i understand why people do this--seeing the word OUT next to items on 'seeds I have' lists. if you use the search member lists function like i do, it's quite annoying to have, for example, 12 members who list the item you're looking for, only to have it say OUT on half of them. (and no date on the other half!) that's like showing me brownies and not offering me any!! boo hoo.


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I agree jaynine. There are only a handful of members that have a seed I'm looking for. I don't recognize their names and some haven't updated their list in months. With trading mostly done for me, mine isn't exactly up to date either. And I do have some plants listed as Unavailable, but others are being rooted at the moment. I'll have them again in the spring. :) But with seed, yeah, it's kind of odd I think.

Do people get bothered by cold calling for seed trades? I've had a couple, but it's not a problem. If I have them and they want to SASBE, I'm fine with that.


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i think every one should put on there page if the welcome cold e-mails or not.
i had cold e-mails welcome on my page but i got so many e-mails just about all were asking for free seeds. it got to crazy for me. lots of them i did a serch on had no post in GW. made me wonder how many people sign up at gw just so they could e-mail for free seeds. n not care about the forum at all. i had to put cold e-mails welcome for trades. n so far so good. i dont mind giving seeds but if i had a grinds my gears its people who sign up just to e-mail members wanting a feebee. or spam lol ive had that before too.


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I dislike the "outs" on seed exchange lists-almost as much as I dislike the want lists that list seeds as received. If you are out, you don't have it so take it off there. If you wanted it and received it and don't want it any more, don't put received! Just take it off the list.
Not only does that make lists darned hard to read, it plays havoc with a search.
I don't mind cold emails that are offers for trades. I am less receptive to cold emails that simply request that I send them the seeds. I send out a lot of seeds to newbies but that approach dampens my enthusiasm.


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My pet peeves are these.

Offering SASBE and listing the info in the offer and people not doing what was simply asked.

Posting on the thread even if you are going to e-mail me.

Always including your GW name with the e-mail. my e-mail never shows the GW name even if it comes from GW.

Second one.

Offering SASBE, confirming SASBE is coming and providing all the info. Holding the seeds aside and the mailer never comes.
Not going to follow through and know the person is holding the seeds for you, just let them know you are not going to send the SASBE.

My first offer for SASBE in Nov. ended up having me holding seeds for more than 25 people and never got the mailers.

Oh, the seed count numbers that's another one. But here's an interesting fact with Burpee seeds.

I've bought them in Burpee packets at Kmart. Great place to buy the seeds, they always have them for 40% off the burpee price marked on the packet.

Anyways, a few years ago I was curious to see how many seeds came in the packet from the store versus buying the packets directly from Burpee catalogs on line or ordering in the mail.

What a shock to find that every packet I purchased from the store had at least twice as many seeds in them, many times triple the number than the on line or paper catalog said was in the packet.
Just for the heck of it, I've compared the seed count every year and it's been he same.

Fran


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I've always gotten more seeds from Burpee than they claim, even for veggies. But I was shocked at the Rudbeckia considering it's a new plant this year. It was supposed to be 50 seeds, 141. I've already sent 25 to someone. I'm waiting on a response from someone else before sending the other 25 I'm willing to share. I really want that red bee balm and I will NOT purchase any more seed this year. No way.

- only if I don't get the trade.


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Fran,
Just curious--were the Kmart packets cheaper than buying directly from Burpee?


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oops, didn't read your post very attentively, did i? duh!


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  • Posted by dorisl 5 NW Chicago burbs (My Page) on
    Sat, Dec 20, 08 at 18:54

I dont mind the envy's that dont get sent or emails that dont get followed up on, I just assume loss of interest. Its happened to me when I cant figure out what trade I want to do or maybe its too many different types and Im disorganized or discombobulated or something, I have let the email thing go on occassion, so I get it.

I can deal with the "out's" and the "received's", no problem. Id like to see more white space on trade lists to make it easier to read. I KNOW Im not the only one in the group with bifocals. I guess the young-uns cant relate to that kind of vision situation, so it doesnt make me mad or anything, I just might not read their lists! I understand the colored backgrounds and everything, as I studied web page design and relate to the fun of making the designs. It does make it harder to read tho, so again, no gear grinding or anything, but definite list avoiding.

But I REEEEEEEEEEEALLLY dont like it when I send a package and the person doesnt acknowledge receiving it. PET PEEVE there, I dont let it get bad enough for gear grinding or anything, but it does get peeps to the "consider to avoid trading with" kinda list if Im in a certain mood.


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Guilty! I am a brand new trader. I have let at least one SASBE offer lapse because I got disorganized when my computer went down. I now know this was bad.

I will put the date on my trade page as soon as I can do so.

I am glad to read all these comments, because it should help me be a better trader. I'm pretty excited about the possibility of this new hobby.


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Id like to see more white space on trade lists to make it easier to read.

Well if you remove all your seeds and plants, there's plenty of white space. :)

There's something up with GW. I want my lists double spaced, especially in the fall when I really do a lot of trading. It helps me and I don't even wear glasses, no matter what I do, GW keeps taking the spaces out. I think I need to learn more HTML.


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I want my lists double spaced...

Type this between every listing: (br) and replace the () with the pointier versions over the comma and period keys. Seems like a lot of work, but if you want double spaced lines that will do it.

Jeanne


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Thanks Jeanne. Agirlsgirl sent me an email this morning with that advice. I'll be sure to use it when I update my list next month after wintersowing. :)


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Jaynine, Not only where the burpee packets cheaper in Kmart, but they all had more seeds in them than was listed on the burpee on line catalogue.

The seed packets in Kmart are pure Burpee seed packets, unlike many of the sed packets at Walmart that say "walmart/burpee" on them.

The seed packets of Burpee seeds purchased at Kmart have always been 40% off the price on the packet.

Examples:

Oriental vegetable snow pea called snow bird.

Burpee packet from Kmart packet price $1.79 - 40% = $1.07

Seed amount 325 seeds

Burpee on line price $2.95

Seed amount 225 seeds
______________________________________________________________________ ______

Kmart burpee seed packet price $1.70 - 40% = $1.07
Seed count 140 seeds

Burpee on line packet price $2.95
seed count 75 seeds

______________________________________________________________________ __

kmart cucumber purpee pickler $1.79 - 40% = $1.07
seed count 250 seeds

Burpee on line price $2.95
seed count 100 seeds

______________________________________________________________________ __

kmart cucumber straight eight $1.79 - 40% = $1.07
Seed count
200 seeds

Burpee on line price $2.95
seed count 100 seeds

______________________________________________________________________ ___

kmart burpee's golden zucchini $1.70 -40% - $1..07
Seed count 100

Burpee on line price $3.25
seed count 25

______________________________________________________________________ _

Kmart nasturtium jewel mix $1.79 - 40% = $1.07
seed count 75 seeds

Burpee on line price $2.95
seed count 30

Always been the same, seed count is double triple and more than the packets on line and the price that burpee prints on the package is far less than in their catalog.
Makes no sense to me, but it's been this way for 5 years that I have checked it out.

Never mind the higher price on line or paper catalog, but there is also the shipping charges to pay.

The only catch to buying in the store is you don't always have the full selection in the stores as in the catalog.
But, I've learned to live with that part, try to get the seeds from trades, and learn to live without the seeds if I can't buy them in the store or trades.

One other thing, don't know if Kmart will continue with the 40% off all seed packets this year. With the economy the way it is, we can only wait and check.

Fran


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You know what 'grinds my gears'?

Too much to say right now, though those things mentioned above seldom bother me much, and also must admit that I have been guilty probably more then once of not responding to an email after posting to a thread. My excuse?...life got in the way at the time, and please don't take it personally. Chances are I have your email buried somewhere back in the back pages and still might reply or apologize sometime later yet.

I am much more bothered by no email links on Member Pages, though realize that those new to the exchange quite innocently aren't aware of it.

I also dislike members not having their location (state abbreviation) in the box along with their garden zone, or worse yet, no zone at all. See I am zone 5/6 S IN
Not nowing where someone is located often makes it hard to answer questions, or know if a plant is hardy in my area, or will live and thrive. Again, it is an innocent oversite on the member's part. I don't respond to a lot of posts, when I am clueless where a member is located...just so y'all know. I will never respond to a plant trade thread where I am clueless what state they reside in.

Just my 2 cents...........

Sue


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  • Posted by bakemom z6 Central Ohio (My Page) on
    Mon, Dec 22, 08 at 10:15

When people are offended that they have to send postage for their Newbie Seed Packs. Yes, it has happened. They want the seeds AND they want me to pay for it.


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Sue, I understand that life gets in the way. I have a lot more free time than most people here I'm sure. But it's not too hard to send an email if you contacted someone about a trade.

What gets me is when someone responds, but doesn't email me directly. It's even worse when the email they have in their profile is dead or they don't allow it to show up in their profile. You play ring around the rosie for a week and then you just lose interest. Blah.


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  • Posted by dorisl 5 NW Chicago burbs (My Page) on
    Mon, Dec 22, 08 at 12:00

Jeanne!

Thank you for explaining that in an understandable way! I knew the answer but wasnt sure how to explain it in a way that people would understand!

:)


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What do you do when you have been playing ring around the rosie with a seed trade that you've been waiting for 7 1/2 weeks on, and the gardener is pretty popular and well liked? You keep emailing her and she finally responds with a promise to send the trade, but nothing comes! I'm 3 months on the GW and I just don't know how to deal with this person anymore.

Cindy


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I have a feeling I know who you are talking about and I would suggest just move on to someone else. Sometimes that is just the best to do. Less Headaches...LOL


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Hey Cindy, have you sent your end of the trade? If not I would call the whole trade off. To me, 7 1/2 weeks is an unreasonable amount of time unless they are having problems that are keeping them from completing the trade and if that's the case they should let you know what's going on.
I have had trades and SASBE offers in the past where I do not hear from someone and months later find out that they had a death in the family or have been sick in the hospital.
So back to the question "What grinds my gears".
1. People who obviously do not read your requirements and just scroll to the bottom of the offer asking for seed.
2. People who respond to so many free seed offers and trades that they can't keep up with them. My advise is start out with just a few trades or offers first and after those are completed then do some more.
3. Ignorant postal workers. I didn't call them stupid, just ignorant. There is a difference. And I'm not talking about all of them, just a select few I have had encounters with.
I could go on but I'm going to stop for now.
jim_6b


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Fran I forgot to mention Thank you for your time on the research. That is valuable infromation...Barb


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Ignorant postal workers. I didn't call them stupid, just ignorant. There is a difference. And I'm not talking about all of them, just a select few I have had encounters with.
I could go on but I'm going to stop for now.

I had a fun encounter this week. I'm hosting a seed swap right now and the packages are starting to arrive. One package was mailed at the post office with a sticker indicating the amount paid. It was put on there by the post office where it was sent. When it arrived here, I had to pay 35 cents extra for postage. Now, can someone tell me WHY that happens? I mean really, is it too hard to have consistent rules across the board and educate your employees about what is a large envelope and what is a parcel? Come on USPS. Get with it.

/gears have been ground.


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One package was mailed at the post office with a sticker indicating the amount paid. It was put on there by the post office where it was sent. When it arrived here, I had to pay 35 cents extra for postage. Now, can someone tell me WHY that happens?
Because there are clearly some employees who know what they are doing and other employees that are proving that some employees don't know what they are doing. I have had the same thing happen, sorry to say, and of course disputed it rather than paying it. I won of course, since my PO folks are the bestest. They don't however question each and every additional postage due stamp other PO workers across the country place on envies.

Ok, y'all got me started. I had 2 envies returned to me for an additional 16 cents postage on each of them. I mailed one day and they were back in my box the next. I'm heading to town today on other have to errands, and will be stopping by the PO with the 2 BE and have them weighed, and dealt with. Either my scale is off, or there is a scale somewhere that is off, or some employee somewhere is guesstimating the weight without using a scale. Both envies weigh .8 OZ on my scale. If indeed my postage was correct, I'm going to ask for a signed statement, saying so...just a little more ammo for the Post Master General once get a goodie package ready for him. I'll check back in here later today to let you know what they actually weighed.

I suspect the problem was not at my local PO, but instead, down at Louisville. Anyway, I'll report my findings later.

Sue...startin to twitch a bit again this AM


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Sue...startin to twitch a bit again this AM

I almost emailed you about this one. My post office was the one that charged the extra amount. Apparently I'm now on their list. There have been several in this swap that needed more money. All told, it's been less than a dollar, but still, 4 42 cent stamps should have been enough for all of them. I weighed them and my scale matches the PO here. They're charging us for parcels, not large envelopes.


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They're charging us for parcels, not large envelopes.
Are they for sure under the 3/4" requirement? Are the contents taped in place, so they don't shift and make it go over the 3/4" requirement?

4 42 cent stamps (1.88) would have covered a 7 OZ Large Envelope, or a 5 OZ Parcel. So are you saying you put 4 stamps on it, and there was postage due when it was received on the other end? Or...other members put 4 stamps on envies and 'you' had to put additional postage on it when it was received?...or other members put 4 stamps on envies and other members had postage due when they were received? Why do you think it is 'your' PO? I was thinking that you had gotten your PO on board. If you had postage due on envies coming into you, it wasn't really your Po's fault. They cannot be responsible and be expected to and recheck' what every one else has charged or stamped on BE.
If there was postage due when you received the envies, I'd go in and dispute it if you think it really met the requirements of being an envy. I know it is a hassle, especially if one does not get into town and by the PO during their hours of operation, like me. I just hold the unopened envy, and email the member what the hold up is until I can get it checked out. Once it is opened, all proof of what the envy was shaped like is gone, thus no leg to stand on.

Postal scale-Ebay-bid is at $11.51-Free shipping with 1 hour 50 minutes left

Postal scale-Ebay-bid is at $10.49-Free Shipping, with 3 hours left

Postal scale-Ebay-bid is at $.06-Free Shipping with 4 hours and 20 minutes left.

If anyone is interested and misses out on these, there are other great buys. Just Pounds and Ounces is the seller. Just watch what he has listed for auction...not his store listings. He also has some good prices on bubblies. One needs to price compare the 'per envelope cost' and the envy size to get the best deal.

Sue....TWITCHIN BAD NOW and heading to town


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Hey Jim, yes I sent my trade to her over 7 weeks ago. Rosepedal, I'll email her one last time the coming weekend. If I don't hear from her and there are no seeds sent by Jan. then stick a fork in me because I'm done with her. Well I'm off to do some baking and preparing gifts. Will take me all day, but I love it! Wishing everyone a very MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Cindy : )


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If I don't hear from her and there are no seeds sent by Jan. then stick a fork in me because I'm done with her.
I do hope that you will consider doing a negative, but nice, review on her stating the facts. After our discussion about 'said' member, I thought it was going to work out. I do so hope that she comes through. Even with the heavy holiday mail, you 'should' see the seeds by Jan, I would think.

Sue


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Sue, I just thought it was my post office since the sending office was the one that put the original label on it.

And I have had a couple with 4 stamps that required a few extra cents, but these were larger than 9x12 envelopes. From usps.com

- No more than 12 inches high by 15 inches long by 3/4 inches thick

is considered a large envelope. They were claiming it was 8 ounces when it was 7.


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Here's a screenshot of the rates. I intend to print it out and tape it to the envelopes I mail back for the Post Offices that seem to have problems knowing their own regulations.


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geeze seems we all seem to be having some problems, LOL mine, not so much, i want those scales!! bwaaaahhhhh!! LOL
i know a really great friend who is having problems with a gw member who used to be a really good trader. now, we're just not to sure anymore.
i would have to agree on what grinds my gears,
1) people who don't follow thru on trades
2) people who don't follow thru on sasbe's
3) people who on threads just have to be in there to hear themselves speak, so they talk just to be talkng and causing ruckus to be causing it.
4)right now, its tabor not finishing his school work :'( ohhh ya, wait, LOL
its just people who have to always be right even when they know they are wrong, that just drives me up the wall!! ya just want to reach thru here and smack them good!! give em a good christian smack of goodness!! **big grinn** then maybe they'd be have for a bit, ya know??
yep, i'll change that on my trade page, i NEVER thought of that out, its kinda like waiting for the last piece of pizza in the morning and when you get up, the kids ate it, man!! or that awesome cheesecake that no one can make, but you have to go somewhere special to get!! LOL and they no longer make it. ***sigh***
~Medo

Here is a link that might be useful: Barehanded Totally Nutso Gardener!! **Big Grinn**


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I'm sorry medontdo, but you're wrong. :)

I may not always be right, but I'm never wrong. ;)


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I just thought it was my post office since the sending office was the one that put the original label on it.
toke, I'm not positive, but I think it can get stamped by workers anywhere along the way. My substitute carrier even stamped one (one time now mind ya before it got addressed) with postage due on an envie I had put in my box to go out. He was of the thinking that all BE were parcels, and took it upon himself to stamp it instead of it going into the PO and the clerks sorting the mail and making such a determination.
When I discussed it with my postmaster, he got the sub on board, and everything was cool.

Ok...reporting in on what I had said above yesterday before heading to town.
Ok, y'all got me started. I had 2 envies returned to me for an additional 16 cents postage on each of them. I mailed one day and they were back in my box the next.
In a nutshell, the 2 stamps I had affixed were indeed correct as they were both under 1 OZ. I think I understood the one harried clerk to say he 'thought' they had been stamped that way there in their PO. He could only say/suggest that there 'might' be a scale there that is off. He said he would make note to have the scales there all checked and apologized. Super nice guy...all alone, and with a long line.

Sue


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People who think they know everything really bother us who actually do.
Merry Christmas!
Jim


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Jim, I feel the same way. It's good to be king. :)

Sue, you are on top of this. From now on, I'm going to be taking mine to the PO before I open them if the weight for the postage is correct. A few cents here or there from millions of people can be a huge profit for the PO. I already pay enough in taxes. If I wanted to get ripped off mailing these things, I'd use FedEx.


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Thankfully, my carrier knows the proper postages, and all three POs here in Edmond seem to know. I've not had any problems, but if someone receives BE from me and it's marked extra postage, I'd want to know! I have a scale too, bought from Just Pounds and Sense like Sue's. Got is for a total of $18.. the scale for $.96 and the postage! Watch their auctions! And they mail out very promptly and it's very well packaged!

I'm hoping I'm not behind on any trades. There's one that I know I'm behind on, but we agreed to wait til after the holidays. There's another Secret Santa one that I'm mailing out, but she also knows it's coming after the holidays since I was waiting for something in particular to come in from a seed order that I really wanted to share with her :)

Between holiday work schedule and never managing to get off work on time lately... I work at Wal~Mart in the Lawn and Garden center... which right now is the "Christmas Shop" and one of the busiest departments in the store... add to that I'm a cashier and you see how late I've been getting off and how exhausted I am when I do! As far as I can remember or find in my email folders, I've only got the one trade in progress, but if anyone knows of one I'm behind on, PLEASE remind me! Between work and home and Christmas shopping and our brand new 2008 van being in the shop for the 6th time for brakes (twice now while we're waiting on arbitration on the Lemon Law claim we made) I'm somewhat braindead!

Aside from those two that I need to mail out, I've confined myself for the most part to Round Robins... the one with Token I've already mailed and the "What's Left", MNF and Birthday Extravaganza are all due after the holiday once life starts getting back to normal, I think :P

I do know, though, that the package can be marked postage due anywhere along the path to get from A to B. My DH is a rural carrier and it makes him angry that so many try to overcharge. You'd think that something done federally, though still a "private" business, would be able to hold standards across the board. It would really be nice if they realized that a BE that fits the requirements isn't a parcel. It's really annoying when someone has taken the time to go to the PO and get a metered postage tape put on and someone else along the way decides that the sending PO was wrong. Really speaks badly to the state of our postal service. Being on the "inside" I realize how messed up it is sometimes, but sheesh! You'd think that they could keep that a "family" secret and present a united front to the rest of the world, wouldn't you?

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!!!!! Or Happy Holiday, whichever you choose to hold dear! :)

Kathy


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  • Posted by dorisl 5 NW Chicago burbs (My Page) on
    Wed, Dec 24, 08 at 12:36

Not exactly gear griding, but a little annoying. I wish that no-one would be afraid to post factual information on an R&R when a trade goes bad. It make me sad when people feel they need to make a post to ask permission to complain about somebody. It doesnt matter how "popular" somebody is, if youre getting blown off on a trde, you should feel free to post the particulars.


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dorisl, I agree with you 100%!

Cindy


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no doubt!! even if its me!! hmmmm.....i surely hope i'm caught up! LOL i'm not always right, but i tell ya, i don't mind apologizing and i don't mind being wrong, but i do mind people who can't say the simple words " i apologize" what's so hard about that? my step father is that way, you could pull all of his toe nails and i bet he'd still never apologize for something he done wrong even if he knew he was in the wrong. just drives me nuts!! ~Medo

Here is a link that might be useful: Barehanded Totally Nutso Gardener!! **Big Grinn**


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I have to admit, I was probably one of those newbies that didn't follow through with a SASBE. After joining, I figured I didn't need the free seeds as I had been trading and received many very generous trades and figured they should be saved for those without seeds and only starting out.

When I first started, I lost contact info and only documented mailing info (without user ID's or email addresses :o/) I'm not sure if I followed through with the few SASBE's that I responded to, but I know I sent several.

Quite honestly, I'm not sure who I sent SASBE's to and who I didn't...or if I actually sent all two or three. When filling my trades, I wanted to make sure that I followed through with the actual trades, thinking those were more critical. I didn't realize (of course now I do) that this was a problem. I can certainly see the frustration now and I feel bad that I may have caused anyone frustration.

I apologize to anyone that I let down on the SASBE...not sure if it was you Fran or who it was, but I'm very sorry.


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It annoys me when you've settled on a trade and then they suddenly stop responding after you send their trade to them. A long time ago, I can't remember the username, when I was just starting out with seed collecting, I sent someone a trade and after about two weeks I e-mailed them asking if they recieved mine and sent theirs. I got a nice response filled with obscene comments, making sexual comments about my mother and telling me to F-off now that they got my seeds. I was stunned!! Needless to say I reported them and blocked their e-mail address. The fact that someone could be so rude shocked me. It's one thing to be a bad trader but this person was a bad person...I mean it was about seeds...thankfully I have had many nice trades with nice people and have not experienced that once more.


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Yes, heavenlyfarm, there has been a handful of real doozies join up here over the years. Thankfully they are really far and few between.

btw...did you know you don't have an email link or a location listed on your member page?
Please see addressing newbie and newer member issues for complete instructions on getting both set up. I noticed you have only been a member for a year. Did you by any chance go by a different name in years past?

Sue...resident busy body


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RE: You know what 'grinds my gears'?

I'm finally getting my Red been balm. I can unclench now.


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RE: You know what 'grinds my gears'?

heavenlyfarm & chemocurl - Have three now that have taken many packages of seeds from me without sending. Two of them are either the same person or know each other. Way too much similar and very close in location...the second trader having a PO Box. Makes me angry that I fell for it :o/ Not sure how long I'll wait to post on the R&R forum, just in case I'm wrong but it really doesn't matter, he'll just sign up with a different nick to try to get free seeds from me again or mess someone else over.


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Not sure how long I'll wait to post on the R&R forum
Suggestion...when you post, if you are starting a new review thread, include the city and state in the subject line, along with the member name.

On a recent scammer, I recently even posted their 'wish' list so folks would better recognize them if/when they returned with a new name and were looking for the same things.

Ya know, I'd be afraid to scam folks out of seeds, plants and postage. I'd be afraid someone would show up on my doorstep confronting me. Scammers must not be concerned about such things ever happening.

Sue...rbb


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RE: You know what 'grinds my gears'?

  • Posted by dorisl 5 NW Chicago burbs (My Page) on
    Mon, Dec 29, 08 at 10:39

Not sure how long I'll wait to post on the R&R forum

Aw for the love of compost, GET YER BUTT OVER THERE AND MAKE A POST!!!!! YES IM YELLING!!!

Every one of us needs to make a new years resolution that if you want to come here and post about a trade, skip that step do not pass go do not collect $200, just go and post the particulars to the review thread.

*deep breath*

Maybe Emily made the coffee to strong after all this morning....


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GET YER BUTT OVER THERE AND MAKE A POST!!!!! YES IM YELLING!!!
Doris, Doris, settle down. She has already posted about 2 of them, and I guess is still giving the 3rd one a chance to come though.

Maybe Emily made the coffee to strong after all this morning....
I'd say so, LMAO...........

Sue...off for more coffee laced with lotsa sugar and Creamy Chocolate creamer....mmmm...like warm moist chocolate candy.

Coffee


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  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Mon, Dec 29, 08 at 13:13

Doris and Sue,
LOL!!!!

Dirtdiggin,
3 trades gone bad recently, geesh!! I have many of your wants. If you would like to trade, email me. I think it will more than make up for your string of bad luck lately : )
Remy


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RE: You know what 'grinds my gears'?

Awww bless your heart Remy :) Thank you for your offer.

I'm in a number of RR trades and appreciate the offer, but maybe I'll check out your trade page when all is over :)

HEHE I just might email ya in a week or so :) lol.

Thanks for all the help and Yes! I did post neg R&R on two of them and am awaiting the third and will post neg R&R if he doesn't follow through! I've contacted each one...multiple times. No excuse for their lack of follow through. No reason to say they didn't have any way to contact me. I'm certainly not afraid to post neg R&R...just don't want to be off base with my assumptions.


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chemogirl,
I use to be plantsofheaven until one day it wouldn't let me log-in which i e-mailed gardenweb but never recieved a response and my e-mail was getting over a 1000 a day of spam so I started a new one. Everytime I do try to change the e-mail and location thing when I click the button to save the changes, it takes me back to the log-in page and it starts it over. I e-mailed gardenweb again and I hope to get a response back.
~mike


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chemocurl not chemogirl..sorry
~mike


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chemocurl not chemogirl..sorry
No problem, Mike. Feel free to call me Sue when replying, which is a lot easier to type (see rant above). 9+ times out of 10, a real first name is easier to remember than a member name is when addressing someone in a thread. Sue is easier than chemocurl. Mike is easier than heavenlyfarm. It's always nice to put a gender to the member also. I almost always assume a member is a female, until I somehow find out otherwise...like in your case, Mike.

Thanks for the name change explanation.

If you continue to have problems updating, and don't hear back from GW, feel free to email me, and I'll see if I can work my magic. Often I think, it is just a browser problem with the member. I use Firefox, and have often been able to get folks updated when they could not get it done themselves. I'm never really sure what their problem was.
My guess is that you are using Internet Explorer. Might you have another browser (like Firefox) on your computer too?

Sue...who is bettin she could get you updated


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Hehe, as long as we're complaining, here are some of my complaints...

- I too find it really annoying to look up someone's trade list, plow through this really long list, only to discover that 3/4 of what's on their list is OUT. Guess it's a status symbol to have a really long list, even if you don't currently have the seeds to trade. (????)

- I enjoy sharing seeds and plan to do a SASBE offer again this winter. I am happy to share my time and seeds, that I have purchased, or collected and cleaned, and meticulously stored, but refuse to pay for postage or materials. (Which is only a couple of dollars, people.)

- Dorisl, I haven't experienced any terrible trades or SASBEs here, but I hear ya on the negative feedback problem. Sounds like eBay! Nobody will post negative feedbacks over there for risk of retaliation and thus having negative feedback on THEIR rating. Also, if you buy some seeds, a toner cartridge, etc. it will be months or years before you know if you've gotten what you paid for. By that time, it's too late to leave negative feedback!

- This is just my personal pet peeve, but being a private person, I do not use my real name on Gardenweb or other public websites. And I remember peoples' GW names only. There are too many posters here to keep track of, let alone TWO names for each. And in some cases, there is more than one 'Karen' or 'Sue' or 'Mary' or other very common name posting to the same thread.


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  • Posted by remy 6WNY (My Page) on
    Tue, Dec 30, 08 at 19:55

Dirtdiggin,
No time limit, the offer is there is you want it : ) If you don't find your tomatoes,just so you know I have many and not all are listed on my page.
Remy


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Thank you so much Remy :) I'll take you up on it as soon as some of these swaps are over. If you are interested in anything on my trade page, let me know and I'll set them aside for you :)

You'll never guess what arrived today in the mail box?? Seems like someone didn't care for the heat. One lone pack of Maple Seeds. No note, no sorry, no KMA no nothing. Didn't even put his name on the envelope. So how would you update the R&R?


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  • Posted by dorisl 5 NW Chicago burbs (My Page) on
    Tue, Dec 30, 08 at 22:09

let him ASK you to update he R&R, as far as you know, santa sent you the seeds.....


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Oh dorisl I went ahead and posted it with a little help :) Hopefully it will help him change his technique if he decides to continue trading. Just stated the facts :)


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  • Posted by dorisl 5 NW Chicago burbs (My Page) on
    Wed, Dec 31, 08 at 12:03

sometimes "just the facts" are more damning than the most heated accusation...

:)
Happy New Year!


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RE: You know what 'grinds my gears'?

So I did a little umm research and realized that I have sent him some seeds too. Not even a thank you but due to the nature or "spirit" of the swap, I didn't even realize it. I'll know better in the next swap.


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