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Mon, Dec 31, 12 at 10:42
| I am looking for our native Schisandra glabra (not chinensis) which grows in the SE US. I am interested in seed, rooted or un-rooted cuttings or seedlings. This is one of our most beautiful and rare vines. |
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| I'm looking for seeds or rooted cuttings of this vine, too. Horizon Herbs offers seeds, and they specifically state it is the native species, and it is not chinensis. BTW, it's new specific epithet is glabra, so that might help in your searching, too. Good luck! Katie |
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| It's great to know that there is a native Schisandra and seeds are available! Does it like a warmer climate than S. Chinensis? If HorizonHerbs sells them, they might do well in the Pacific NorthWest? This is really great! I'm still in the process of germinating S. chinensis (seeds from HorizonHerbs) and now have more to wish for :-) |
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| gvozdika, I don't know anything about S. chinensis. I pretty much stick to natives or veggies. The native S. coccinea (S. glabra) should grow for you just fine in zone 8, Oregon. It grows nearby here in a secret spot (wink) in zone 8a in Mississippi. Guess I better order myself some seeds, too ;) Katie |
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- Posted by wildflowerman_2000 North Carolina in Z- (wildflowerman_2000@yahoo.com) on Fri, Jan 4, 13 at 21:35
| I, like kchd, try and stick with our native (SE US) plants. Horizon Herbs does indeed have the native S. glabra which I just got from them. kchd if you ever can collect seed off the one near you in MS I would love to get some from that ecotype. I have plants from TN, NC, LA and am trying to acquire them from every area in the SE. Thanks for any help. Mark |
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| Congratulations and good luck with germinating them! Are the seeds in berries? Seems they do not require a cold stratification as they grow even in Florida? Kchd also grows vegetables, I doubt they are all native :-) As for me, I want to grow S. Chinensis for food and pretty happy that it will grow here in Oregon. I could not grow it where I lived before because of too cold winters. Looking forward to grow S. glabra just for fun even if it's not native to the PNW, can't be worth than English ivy. Good Luck! |
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- Posted by wildflowerman_2000 North Carolina in Z- (wildflowerman_2000@yahoo.com) on Sun, Jan 6, 13 at 12:53
| Hi gvozdika, Germinating schisandra seems pretty simple. Making sure to soak the dry seed overnight in warm water is suppose to help them germinate more quickly. Some literature suggest that some cold stratification will help to get better germination and I am trying both methods. I am also trying to root them as hardwood(dormant) cuttings now and will also try them as softwood (growing) cuttings this summer. I have several good sources for cuttings which really helps. I'll let you know how they do. I am also trying something new this time by using willow water as a rooting stimulant/hormone which many say will improve the success and speed at which they root. Time will tell! The seed I have received from three sources were dry seed and removed from their berries. They are a strange seed almost horseshoe shaped. I'll also let you know how the germination trials go. Mark |
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| Mark, Please do keep us updated on all your trials, errors and successes with your propagation protocols. Curious minds want to know!! I hope to go visit those MS vines this summer and will surely keep you in mind if I find seed. I am jealous of your ecotype collection! That is really special. I don't have any S. coccinea yet... It is encouraging that Horizon Herbs carries seed. In fact, it's downright exciting! Katie |
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| Thank you Mark! Please keep posting about your progress. Very interesting! Do you know if Schisandra glabra has male and female plants (is dioecious)? That is the case with S. chinensis. I'm trying different ways to germinate S. chinensis too. Have one batch cold stratified in the refregirator, one for a warm-cold-warm cycle, another sowed in the fall, and the last one sowed just this month. Tried one with no-soil germination in perlite but they turned dark so I washed them in hydrogen peroxide and sowed in a pot. Now I'm waiting for the spring time. Katie, if you get to your secret spot try to find very ripe berries if they are in season. It seems the key to a successful germination. Thank you both for the info! |
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- Posted by wildflowerman_2000 North Carolina in Z- (wildflowerman_2000@yahoo.com) on Tue, Jan 8, 13 at 19:38
| Hi gvozdika, S. glabra is monoecious and has both male and female flowers on the same plant. I have received about 50 cuttings this week and am doing treatments with Hormodin #3 and also Willow water. I'll let you know how they progress. I have also sown several batches of seed and will let you know when I see some activity. Mark |
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| Great, Mark! Thank you, Good luck! |
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