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Large Cheap Pond Liner

Posted by joefalco z8 (My Page) on
Thu, Oct 28, 04 at 23:07

I love this forum and I think if anyone can help me it will be you frugal gardeners.

I dug a pond and got a little carried away with the size. I am now going to need a liner 20' X 50'

The best price I have found is around $360 including shipping from bend tarp and liner
http://www.bendtarp.com/

They have a product called PPL-20 which is a little cheaper than what they have listed on their site. Still around $370 for the size I need.

$370????? I'm supposed to be a frugal gardener.

Can someone help me? No cheap plastic though because I want it to last.


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RE: Large Cheap Pond Liner

so you cheep?Well use some plastic shopping bags?ha ha you can use 3 sheets of black plasstic called polypropylane.You can get that at Home depo or lowes 40x100 about$ 45?will last about 8 year You need to put some carpet under the plastic to prevent sharp objects puncturing the plastic.The upper part plastic [above the watter)you can plant some moss or same watter grass it looks good. milan


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I am on my fourth summer with my 1700 plus gallon pond. I too got carried away digging - actually I dug until I knew I was maxed out on what my liner would cover. I went to Menards (similar to Home Depot) and ordered a roll of roofing liner. The size in stock for around $50 I think would be big enough for your pond. I think I paid a bit under $100 for the size I needed with some liner to spare. Then I went around to carpet stores and asked if they had any padding they were trashing. I told them exactly what I wanted it for. The first place had just had their dumpster dumped, but the second place I could have padded 5-6 ponds my size with what they were trashing. Hey, all they could of said was no. Free Padding was the best find until a past co-worker of ours said to come out with a trailer and get any rock/boulders that I wanted from his rock pile out in a field. I figure by the time we were done making, 4, trips I had over $2000 worth of rock (I had had a bid from a landscaping place on a load). I had enough rocks that averaged in size of a 5 gal bucket (some smaller and bigger) to edge the pond, a hosta garden, etc. I am going back again this coming spring to get another load for a flower garden. Of course I knew I owed him big time, and because he wouldn't accept nothing, I mailed him and his wife each a gift certificate to their favorite stores.

What I saved on my liner, padding, and rocks, the other half spent on a very nice external pump, bio-filter, UV light, etc. So we were able to do the pond up good.

The pond is in sun from sunrise till about 3 pm and so far the liner is in just as good shape as when we installed.


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RE: Large Cheap Pond Liner

  • Posted by nomadh 10-11/so cal (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 29, 04 at 15:44

There are lots of arguments about roofing liner being bad for the pond ecology and fish life. That being said I too will probably use an EPDM (or is it EDPM)roofing liner in my next pond.


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Nomadh - I read and read, and read about using roofing liner for my pond. Like anything, you will get those in favor and not in favor. The thing I found that everyone recommended doing was to wash it off good before installing. That was a job in itself, since my liner was big. I laid it out on the yard and we power rinsed it, no soap, just elbow grease (it has a white chalky look before rinsing so that is what you want to get off. I have 7 large Koi in the pond and plants that are all doing good.


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The roofing rubber has talcum powder on it I think this is to keep it from sticking to itself.

Still roofing rubber was VERY expensive when I looked into it. The liner from bendtarp and liner was cheaper.

Plastic won't work for me we have super HOT SUN and I have 3 Dogs whick would tear it up.


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Find a roofing company near you, they throw this stuff away all the time when they redo a roof.

All my ponds are lined with this and I've gotten it from a roofing company's dumpster that gave me permission.

When it has already been used the talc is no longer there. I just have to hose off any dirt. I don't understand roofing, but my husband talked to them and they said they give the used pieces away all the time to people who use it for garden ponds. Two of my ponds that are lined with the used roofing liner have fish in them also. This liner is made to withstand sun, beings it's on a roof.

YOU CAN'T BEAT THE PRICE OF FREE!


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lbmoore - yes FREE is one of the best things. I too checked with a few roofing places, but because of the size of my pond, I couldn't get a scrap big enough and since I was going big as my first pond, I didn't want to chance gluing seams, etc. without knowing what I was doing. Joe - keep checking around! Maybe up here in the north country roofing is cheaper, for I figured I save well over a hundred dollars. Good luck


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I know it has been a very long time since anyone has posted on this subject but hope someone will answer.
I have the opportunity to get for free up to half a million square feet of EPDM roofing and was wondering if anyone still thinks it is safe to use for fish? I want to use it to make long narrow trough like ponds for aquaculture connected to our greenhouse to grow food fish in. I would really appreciate any input from any point of view.
Thanks
Brad


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I check with the pool companies around me and get their liners that they bring back. I doubled on last year as it was a Olympic sized one. My first one has been in for over 10 years now with no leaks.


 
 

 

 


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