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rooting jujube cuttings
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Tue, Feb 1, 11 at 12:10
I was thinking about trying to root some jujube cuttings this spring but I'm not sure if this will result in a good quality tree. All the jujube trees for sale seem to be grafted onto wild root stock. What are the advantages of a grafted tree over a rooted cutting?
Thanks to everyone for sharing their expertise. |
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RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| Rooting jujube cuttings is not a common practice, because it's difficult. I have tried rooting them dormant last year, they sprouted, but didn't rooted and later dried up. Softwood cuttings was also attempted in my greenhouse with no luck. I will be trying it again rooting it under mist and bottom heat. Bass |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| The problem is not the quality of the tree, it is the difficulty of getting jujubes to root. According to Ashton's jujube book nearly everyone he knows that has tried has failed, but a few people have succeeded. If you want to try, use new shoots from summer growth, dormant cuttings will never root. Scott |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| Bass, our posts overlapped. Ashtons book recommends a very slow rooting process, keep in light shade under high humidity and water once per month. No bottom heat. If they take off it will be the following spring. Scott |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| The rootstock we use is commonly called India Jujube, its a 90 day root under 85 degree temp with 40% humidity, softwood cuttings |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| Thanks everyone for your helpful replies. |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| The Indian Jujube is not cold hardy. It is a different species of jujube so it may be easier to root. bass |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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You can undertake a different route that is slower with less potential in terms of numbers, but awesome none the less. Dig out a sucker following the root to the base by the mother earrrly in spring before the buds start to swell cut it from the momma and transplant it where you want it to establish. At the end of the year, if sufficient wood is formed, bud/shield graft with the selected cultivar scionwood. Other graft methods would work also.
Make sure you're not propagating copyright protected ones.
Have fun!
noogy |
The huge advantage to rooting jujube
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A huge advantage in rooting jujube cuttings is that the dang things sprout up from the thorny roots. A thornless jujube would still have thorny sprouts, and jujubes naturally are in the rugosa rose/finger lime/agarita club of thorny. In other words, blood will follow. If one could have an actual thornless jujube all the way down to the root. . . that would be great.
Would planting a tree below its graft (as in, dirt above the graft union) keep the blasted sprouts from coming up and striping my ankles with misery? I'd like to know. I know there are some thornless ones available, but I'd like to avoid the pain if possible. |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| I suppose you could always try planting out seeds from your thornless jujubes - and see what you get.... Likely you will end up digging a bunch out - but you will probably also get a bunch that are fine... Kinda like thorny oranges, pears, and plums.... Thanks |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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try to make an airlayer on your jujube! I'll try it this year.
one of my bought jujubes is labelled as "on own roots", so there must be a way to root them.
once you have an own root jujube, all root suckers are identical to the cultivar. an easy and careless propagation method (if you're not planning to produce hundreds of plants). |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| "Sherwood" jujube is often said to be on its own roots. I think they are transplanted rootsuckers from an established "Sherwood" on its own roots. This MAY be because the original--and suckering--seedling plant of this selection was still around to get started from. I bought my "Sherwood" from the late Sherwood Atkins, the originator or discoverer. |
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| I'm trying to use Jujube for wildlife. I was concerned about low quality tree thickets being formed by root suckering since most Jujube are grafted to native rootstock that is thorny and produces little fruit. So, I ended up buying Tigertooth grown on its own roots. My thought is that any reproduction through the root system in the future when the trees are no longer caged and maintained will produce the same quality trees as the ones originally planted. So, this past March I took some root cuttings. My jujube documentation thread referenced in the link below. They are very slow to root, but I have had some success. If you scroll to the bottom of the referenced thread, you will see pictures of some that seem to have established themselves. I am planning to try to stool one of these next year. As I understand it, if the suckers are treated with IBA and they are stooled in sand, you can get pretty high rooting success. I plan to use some of the others as rootstock for grafting other varieties. That way, if there is root based propagation down the road, the new trees will produce quality fruit. I hope this helps, the key seems to be patience... |
Here is a link that might be useful: Jujube for Deer
RE: rooting jujube cuttings
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| I have a Lang and a Li (both grafted) that I had to move about three years after planting. I got busy and did not get the holes filled in for about a month. When I returned to do so, I had 4-6 'new' trees sprouting up from the hole. As they were in an out of the way place, I left them just for curiosity and they are doing fine several years later. As expected the root-stock trees are thorny and have much smaller fruit, but taste fine. Not sure the propagated varieties would come up so easily, but the root-stock seems like it would be fairly easy to propagate by root cuttings. You might try layering or dropping to get a named variety propagated to its own roots. |
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