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| Curious if anyone has experience or observations about this method of fruit tree growing:
Dave Wilson Nursery
http://www.davewilson.com/homegrown/BOC_explained.html |
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- Posted by misterbaby 7a/b TN (My Page) on Thu, Feb 3, 11 at 21:44
| Brian, I am using their methods with some apples and pears for good results. My experience is that irrigation and extra fertilization are required due to the competition from adjoining trees. Pruning, too, has to be somewhat more aggressive. Others here will recommend grafting as a preferred alternative. Both have pros and cons. Misterbaby. |
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- Posted by kokopelli5a 5a (My Page) on Thu, Feb 3, 11 at 22:22
| I've done it with mixed success. Best tree is the one that is alone, I have to say. On the other hand, I planted a large pit and put four trees in it. 'Double Jewel' set heavily as a young tree then stunted out. I finally removed it. 'Fantastic Elberta' did not successfully set fruit in our cold climate for years, and therefore grew big, dwarfing the 'J.H. Hale' (a particularly unvigorous tree) next to it. Now the Elberta is bearing. Other hole had 'Redhaven' and some cold-hardy low-bearing nectarine whose name I forget. I took out the nectarine so the other tree is by itself. I probably would have been better off with 'Hale' 'Redhaven' and 'Polly' all in separate holes. But how would I have known in advance that those are the ones that would work? My advice is to go ahead, but pay attention to relative vigor. that means more than just planting same kind of fruit on same rootstock, but paying attention to the actual type of tree it is. Also, don't be afraid to cut down a clinker after a few years (if you don't need it for pollination). |
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- Posted by scottfsmith 6B-7A-MD (My Page) on Fri, Feb 4, 11 at 8:41
| I have many close plantings; they have both advantages and disadvantages. Advantages:
Disadvantages:
For me I have overall been very happy with them. The biggest mistakes I made was not knowing how to prune right for several years, and doing some plantings that were too close, closer than the recommendations. Pears and European plums in particular were the biggest problems and I would say they need at least 4' per tree. I have some pretty odd-looking pears and Euro plums because they did have too many scaffolds but I later removed many, including all but one at some big branch points, so now the trunks zig and zag. Scott |
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| scottfsmith Did you plant close from the beginning or could someone go back and plant a row of trees between two existing tree? Does close planting discourage deer or are they not a problem for you? |
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- Posted by scottfsmith 6B-7A-MD (My Page) on Sun, Feb 6, 11 at 9:22
| Marcus, it is difficult to add trees to a close planting since the new tree will not get enough light and it will be continual work pruning back the competition to it. If there is still a whole lot of light in the in-between spots it can work however. I don't think it is a plus or minus on deer. Lower plantings are a minus because the deer can reach more. I have lots of deer problems, but they are worse on my berries and veggies than on the fruit trees - the main problem I have on the fruit trees is younger trees that can't get growing because the deer keep munching them back. Scott |
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| I've gone from 6ft by 8ft to about 2ft by 8ft on stone fruit in my greenhouse. I'm just the 2nd year into the extra thick planting so any negatives haven't shown up yet. At the worst I'll trim trees or take out trees. It's a great way to learn. But if done half way will lead to overcrowding and the issues Scott brings up. My yields and fruit quality have been great so far. Biggest concern is getting renewal wood down low. After a few years the good fruitful wood gets higher and higher in the tree. Eventually renewal pruning becomes necessary. So I've been taking out large limbs down low. This doesn't always result in new wood as low as I'd like it. On the new thicker trees I plan to force new wood down low sooner rather than later. We'll see how that goes. |
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| I just planted 4 trees in a 6x4 box on friday, bing and craigs crimson cherries. an arctic jay nectarine, and a snow queen peach. shade from another tree I need to prune is my only foreseen issue... hopefully it will work out! |
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