There are heirloom varieties. Maybe Scott can help you there.

You cannot get Rubaiyat, or any of the other Rosetta apples, from anyone other than Greenmantle. And unless things have changed since I last ordered from them you can't get them in any form other than a benchgraft. So if you really want a deeply pigmented red-fleshed apple with good flavor and you have a lot of patience, I suggest getting a couple of Rubaiyat benchgrafts and nursing them up. I have also seen an apple called 'Firecracker' available at One Green World, it has good red color but the eating quality is said to be like 'Red Delicious' which is one of my least favorite apples, so I never had any interest in getting one. They also have a red fleshed apple called 'Scarlet Surprise' that looks to have good color.

Carla in Sac

OGW has several red-fleshed.

Konrad's 'Red Wonder' looks really good. I would like the color of 'Firecracker'! Guess I'll just have to wait a little longer. thanks again, Mrs. G

I do not like the taste of Red Delicious, and 'Firecracker' looks like an overgrown crabapple. The article from Good Fruit Grower is excellent. Maybe I'll just have to wait.

At this point Greenmantle should be planting their own bench grafts? It is too bad they don't respond to email when they have a website. That is frustrating. Konrad's 'Red Wonder' looks really good too.

How long to bench-grafts take before producing fruit? Milehigh Girl, where did you you buy Hidden Rose? Will research 'Mountain Rose' as well. Thanks all! Great info, this is an excellent start. Mrs. G

http://www.fedcoseeds.com/trees/search.php?item=1531&

no idea how it would perform in your region.

Konrad's picture of his red fleshed apples in his dehydrator put me over the edge! LOL

Patty S.

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I was sorry to see people reporting a 50% failure rate with Greenmantle. I got 4 benchgraft pears from them last year and only 1 broke bud and is now planted. I hoped they would get better skills, especially on the easiest of all: apples.

Of 24 apple benchgrafts I got from Kuffel Creek 23 broke bud after sitting 9 weeks in my frige because I didn't have time to get to them. I have another 25 sitting in pots this year and it is finally getting warm enough that they are popping out. It is kind of cool having the mailman deliver 24 trees in your mailbox.

http://www.suttonelms.org.uk/apple52.html

http://www.fourseasonscabinrental.com/redfleshedapples.html

Trees of Antiquity has at least 3 pink ones under apples> pink _____ name.
http://www.treesofantiquity.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1

http://www.greenmantlenursery.com/fruit/rosetta-apples.htm

http://www.greenmantlenursery.com/2008revision/fruit2008/etter-apples2 008.htm

http://www.greenmantlenursery.com/2008revision/fruit2008/rosetta-apple s2008.htm

Fascist, thanks so much for your comments as well. I visited every site you were kind enough to post. Isn't it funny that 'red-fleshed' apples will become the new hot tree to own. They've been around for years. I plan on cooking with mine. And cannot wait for one that will be developed that will taste and be the size of Jonagold! Thanks all, Mrs. G

http://mikuni.myshopify.com/products/mountain-rose-apples
(out of stock until next autumn)
Mikuni Wild Harvest dot com

I purchased mine at Sheridan Fruit Market in Portland in December. Put it under the Christmas tree.

Original google search: hood+river AND "mountain rose"

Patty S.

Honey Applesauce:

I start by squeezing the juice of a lemon or two into the bowl for the apples, then as I add the peeled, cored, and sliced apples I swirl them in the lemon to coat them so they don't brown so fast. I put the apples in a large pot with a little water, a pinch of salt, and some honey, I like to use clover or another lightly colored and flavored honey. Sweeten it to taste, maybe 1 cup of honey for 6 pounds of apples, a little goes a long way. Cover and simmer the apples until they get soft, stirring frequently to be sure they don't scorch and adding water if necessary, be sure to taste it as it cooks and adjust for sweetness. When it's done I like to puree the sauce so it's nice and smooth.

Brandy Applesauce:

Once again I start with lemon juice in the bowl, and then peeling, coring, and slicing the apples. I mix a little cinnamon and a pinch of salt into some brown sugar, then melt some butter in a pot and add a little brandy, some apple juice or apple cider, and stir everything together before adding the apples. Then cover, simmer, stir to keep from scorching, and puree at the end if you want. Be sure to taste along the way to get the right amount of sweetness and spice.

Sorry I can't give any measurements, but hopefully going by taste will yield sauce that is perfect just for you.

Enjoy!

Konrad, my Mott's Pink apple has grey fuzzy leaves also. The leaves seem much stronger and thicker, as they were the last to drop this past fall. I do not have other photographs yet. I only saw pictures on the internet of the leaves in 'cluster', or in my own back yard. I'll take pics for you as soon as my trees leaf out. It is a wonderful contrast! Mrs. G

Patty S.

You may have good luck growing a red fleshed apple. Jon @ Encanto Farms grows grenadine. He might have scionwood for you too.

Good Luck,
Little John

Patty S.

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Should be good with that beautiful applesauce, although lately we've been using raspberry preserves.

I've ordered from them enough, I know what to expect. The grafts are small, so if size is at all a consideration, Greenmantle is not the place to order from.

I've never seen them actually have any one year grafted trees in inventory. All they have available are bench grafts. I think Ram (owner) is getting quite a bit older and bench grafts don't require near the labor, and so are easier for him to do.

I've talked to Ram quite a bit on the phone and he doesn't strike me as the type of guy who checks his email much. He can also be hard to reach on the phone sometimes, but once you get him on the phone, he'll talk with you as long as you want.

I think their operation is somewhat like Arboreum, that is, you order the trees and don't hear from them again unless you call. The trees just show up.

Patty S.

It doesn't bother me to get an 18" or 2' whip vs a 6' tall dug up tree.. because it's going to be 6' tall by the end of the first season.... and it's not going to have to recover from the massive the trauma to the root system....

My most unhappy Fruit Tree experiences have been with larger "trees"... where you are getting a 3" caliper Plum or some such... and they just languish and pout.... Not to mention that you pay $80.00 vs $15.00......

Thanks

I am not surprised folks don't respect their claims to it. Let them have the name they gave it, but to claim ownership of the genetics (non-propagation agreement) seems a stretch.