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stayin ahead of the game - pomme notes

Posted by thomis 7 (My Page) on
Thu, May 30, 13 at 10:00

I'm very happy with the progress of my 5 year-old hobby orchard this year. I've managed to nail the timing just right with most of the sprays. PC in particular has been very bad and I lost the majority of my apples the last two years to PC b/c of ill-timed sprays. I nipped PC at just the right time this year, though, and CAR sprays, too. I did have some bouts with FB but not too bad, and I did have to remove one 5 year old Blacktwig on bud 9 due to some disease. The branches were turning black and dying but it was fireblight. All that said...I'm expecting my first significant apple harvest this year, if I can stay on top of it. One other disease I have noticed in years past is rot on the apples beginning about mid July. Its hard to tell from pics on various websites if its black or brown rot, but I do think it is one of them. My question on that is, can I use the same fungicide spray for it that I used for CAR (Rally SP)?

I get the usual leafhoppers, mites and jap beetles but they seem to be failry easy to contend with. I'm reading about a second "cycle" of PC that I may need to gear up to spray for. Can anyone touch on this subject? Also as far as coddling moth, I put the fake apples out a couple years ago and never found any signs of them. I think this may be unusual, though, as most folks say CM is just as prevalent as PC, correct?

I'm pretty excited about one tree in particular, a Smokehouse on mm111. I lost most of my trees on mm111 to collar rot b/c of my wet/ heavy hardpan under my friable loamy topsoil. But this Smokehouse seems very healthy. Its my largest tree, and stands about 16'. I learned that in years past, I pruned this tree much too heavily during my usual February pruning, overstimulating it with a tremendous amount of new growth, so much so that it never even blossomed. I held off on pruning it this past Feb and now it is loaded with apples. Lesson learned; it IS possible to overprune in dormancy.

One last thing, I ran out of the parafin-based dormant oil early March when I did that spray. I had to use what I could get my hands on and it happened to be Volck Oil Spray, which is not parafin-based. It seemed to work better than the parafin-based spray I have used the last 5 years. Can anyone confirm the same experience?

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RE: stayin ahead of the game - pomme notes

  • Posted by olpea zone 6 KS (My Page) on
    Fri, May 31, 13 at 11:13

Congrats Thomis.

I doubt the fake apples will be a very effective trap for codling moth. Fake red apples are generally used for apple maggot.

There are codling moth traps, but they use pheromone lures.

RE: stayin ahead of the game - pomme notes

My spray schedule this year was about 3 weeks late due to wet and windy weather. I found most damage done by coddling moth, only a few by plum curculio and OFM. I talked about damages on apples, A.pears and peaches.

My guess is CM arrived on time regardless of the weather while PC and OFM may be held back by colder-than-normal weather, at least in my area.

I did not have experience with rot (yet). I did not use Volck Oil either but recall that a few here do. Hope they will chime in.

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