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| Does anyone have this list?
Im curious to see the varieties on it. About him: Professor of Pomology at New York State Agricultural Experiment station, where exists perhaps the most extensive apple variety collection in the United States. -Eric
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- Posted by harvestman 6 (My Page) on Tue, May 8, 12 at 16:36
| Roger's been retired for over 20 years. Never saw the list. |
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- Posted by scottfsmith 6B-7A-MD (My Page) on Tue, May 8, 12 at 16:46
| I've never seen it. Here as consolation prize are three lists I have seen, from Tom Burford, Ed Fackler, and Tom Vorbeck. Scott
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| Thanks Harvestman. I may have found the next best thing if the list isnt out there. Germplasm Resources Information Network has a database that has a lot of Roger's scion and fruit notes in it. Not thrilled about his assessment of Orleans Reinette. LOL. -Eric |
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| Gosh, I always feel that I've chosen poorly! The only apple I have on all three lists is Jonagold. Ugh, Mrs. G |
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| Dont feel bad MrsG. Taste lists are subjective. Everyone likes something different, and have preferences. If you like smooth texture with a sweet, honeyed flavor, slightly juicy, you'll like it. Very much like Golden Delicious in my opinion with some extra spicy flavors. I didnt think it was phenomenal, to each his/her own. :) Scott, Thanks for that list, I've seen it scattered around the forum, but never combined. I think I'll add it to my blog for reference. Thanks man! -Eric |
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- Posted by harvestman 6 (My Page) on Tue, May 8, 12 at 21:02
| Believe me, all people who get the chance to eat a wide variety of apples off the tree will come up with a different list. What you also need to know about is consistency- especially in your region. For example, I've gotten high quality Braeberns from my tree only one season. As Ed notes, it's difficult to grow for him in Indiana and I haven't had much success with it here in the northeast. We should put together a list of favorite, dependable apples. I would start with Goldrush. |
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| harvestman, I think if we're to come up with a list, we should include some information thats more identifiable, like zone and harvest season for your zone, i.e. Mid-October. Mine: -Eric |
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| I've got eight on those lists and have tried that many more. But it's a real crap shoot as to how they will perform down here as compared to wherever those list originate. |
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- Posted by hoosierquilt z10a/23 Vista Calif (My Page) on Tue, May 8, 12 at 22:40
| Well okay. How about some mild climate, low chill selections: Anna - a great "beginner's" apple. Crisp, sweet with a hint of spicy tartness. Prolific and disease resistant. And, you'll get 1 crops if you're in a mild enough climate. Dorsett Golden - an outstanding apple. Early like Anna. Firm sweet and our alternative to Golden Delicious for low chill areas, only it's better. Pink Lady (Cripps) - a late low chill. Very distinct. Spicy a a wee bit tart but even I like it (the queen of sweet). Good option to extend your apple harvest for us in Calif. Fuji and Red Fuji - Nuff said about this apple, we all know how good it is. I think the red sport tastes a bit more interesting. And they keep really well in the fridge. That's my list. I'd add Eishemer but I'd probably get booed off the forum by my Calif. apple growers. I happen to like them. They're small, crisp and spicy. But I know they're not a favorite of many. Patty S. |
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- Posted by scottfsmith 6B-7A-MD (My Page) on Tue, May 8, 12 at 22:56
| The fact there is so little overlap between the lists also says a lot about varied tastes. There are also a ton of varieties and who has time to experiment with them all. Just for fun I went through my notes and came up with my favorites to see how much overlap I had with the above. Here they are, in roughly ranked order: 1) Freyburg It looks like 8 of mine are on one of the lists above, thats actually more overlap than I expected. |
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| I've got 3, 4, and 5 overlaps with the lists. Of my varieties, only Honeycrisp and Goldrush appear on more than one list. All were planted last year (4 on the list) or this year (the other 6), so I haven't had a chance to taste any from my trees yet. Most which were planted last year have set enough that even after thinning I think I'll be able to get 5-7 apples per tree. The Sweet 16 was a bit strange in that it was one of just two which bloomed last year when I first planted it, yet now it had one of the lightest blooms- just one bunch of flowers, even though the tree is one of the largest. Burford Fackler Vorbeck |
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| Thanks for the list Scott Burford None Fackler Vorbeck |
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- Posted by harvestman 6 (My Page) on Wed, May 9, 12 at 5:37
| Here I manage only one Sweet 16 and it's taken forever to come into bearing on 111. Finally tasted it last year and to me it tasted like it was infused with artificial flavor. It tasted different alright, disturbingly so. I have never had that experience with another apple. This year it is fruiting on only one branch. This is not a grower friendly apple, at least not when young. |
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- Posted by Randy31513 Georgia 8b (My Page) on Wed, May 9, 12 at 7:06
| Patty my Anna is excellent but the Golden Dorsett is just not that good. I wonder if it is a difference in like the humidity between your location and mine? On my tree it is hard to pick it just right with a ripe window of about an hour. :) If I could find a replacement pollinator for the Anna the Golden Dorsett would be out Randy |
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| That made me so happy to see Pink Lady and Sundowner on some of those lists. I worked with John Cripps on the apple breeding at Stoneville Research Station. I remember choosing 10/138 (Pink Lady) and 9/90 (Sundowner) from the breeding block (With John) I thought Sundowner was the superior apple, however Pink Lady seemed to get all the promotion. If you ever get the chance to eat a Sundowner that has been grown in the right district and picked right (much later than anyone picks them)You have eaten the pure essence of apple flavour, brilliant texture and the perfect sugar acid balance. But very few people are going to have that experience. |
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| That's interesting to hear Harvestman. I wonder it is too warm in our area, per Ed Fackler's "Much easier to grow up north" comment. It was definitely warmer than usual this winter and both the one you manage and mine had weak blooms (1 branch each). Mine actually had much more last year when I had just stuck it in the ground (from Cummins). Since I was just getting started, there wasn't much to pollinate it (just one cluster on a Priscilla- I'm not sure the timing matched), so no fruit set. The description from Cummins says "Cherry twizzler" flavor, so that matches up pretty well with the artificial taste you encountered. I happen to like twizzlers though, so I'm looking forward to it. :) |
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| I have to say a plug for Pink Lady. I love that apple and wish I could grow it where I am. I seem to recall it needs a long growing season, which I do not have. If sundowner is better.. WOW. I will look for that apple and see if I can at least buy it if not plant it. Dan |
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| Found it! This is his list of twenty in the approximate order of taste preference: Spigold Note: This list is from 1966 -Eric |
Here is a link that might be useful: PubHort Reference
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| Notes from list above: N.Y. 45500-5 is Empire -Eric |
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