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Jubileum pie cherry productive?

Posted by skyjs z8 OR, USA (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 4, 13 at 12:34

I have had this Jubileum pie cherry for about 5-6 years. It has given me one cherry and this year it has 2 more. Is there anyone on this list who is growing this cherry? The tree is 12 feet tall and 7 feet wide. IT's healthy just not productive. I even bud grafted on a small section of Danube pie cherry to try to cross - pollinate, which I know is not required but may improve fruit set.

Montmorency is reliable and productive for me. Northstar is productive but gets disease.

How many cherries are the rest of you getting on Jubileum or other pie cherries? I wonder if I should graft it out.
Thansk
John S
PDX OR


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RE: Jubileum pie cherry productive?

Hi John

I'm interested in what folks have to say too. I just bought a young whip this season and so far it's growing very well. I have 2 other cherry trees (Richmond Early) that I enjoy very much and was hoping Jubileum would add something diff to the mix, I have noticed that my current cherry trees are very sensitive to the amount of sun they get. Pickins was getting pretty sparse till I cut down a few trees blocking their sun and the crop doubled this year.

Pam in cinti


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  • Posted by skyjs z8 OR, USA (My Page) on
    Thu, Jun 6, 13 at 0:16

That's interesting, Pam,
I think that most of my cherries are in enough sun. I do have some that I know are experiments in half or more shade, but that's a different question. Do you like the flavor of Richmond Early? I just bought balaton, partially based on positive reviews that many on this site gave for it. I also have Danube, which is younger and more productive than Jubileum so far, but still hasn't really got going. I am kind of feeling that there is a reason why Montmorency so dominates the market: productive, relatively disease free, tastes great, and not too sensitive to amount of sun.
John S
PDX OR


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This is the 2nd year i've had Jubileum ... Its not in an optimal spot... But i didn't even see flowers on it this year. my Kansas Sweet at least flowers and makes like 20-30 fruit in its 3rd year in not a great spot. and made flowers and fruit in its 2nd year... Too bad the animals get the fruit before me hehe.

Hoping it does better next year, maybe i'll graft something else to it.


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John, I got a Balaton whip at the same time. Hoping to buy an older fully branched Danube at the nursery this July. I like tart fruit, so what I like is often different from other folks choices. I planted the Richmond early because I found a great deal at a local Lowes during clearance. The larger tree started producing the following year post planting, but the smaller one took 3 years. I have enjoyed them greatly every year as they are wonderful tart and flavorful. Yesterday I did a taste test between the two Richmonds and found the one getting the most sun tasted much better than the other one. Of course that tree has produced for 4-5 years now, and the smaller is only giving it's second crop. That being said neither tree produced cherries as tasty as I recall. Also smaller. I believe it might be due to the later spring and cooler temps during growth, but it's just my guess. This spring came so late that about a month's worth of trees with diff bloom times all bloomed at once.

Even if they taste so so, they are far better than the canned ones.

Amy, I hope you figure a way to get cherries to eat too. I have several mulberry trees and goumi bushes that produce at the same time, and I think that lightens the load on my cherries.

Pam in cinti


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My impression is all 3 of the Hungarian sour cherries (Jubileum, Danube, Balaton) taste similar--they are a bit larger, a bit sweeter, and darker than a typical Montmorency sour cherry. They all can be shy bearers I think too mainly due to pollination. If you have all those other sour cherries nearby though then what gives. I got Danube because it's the only Hungarian I could find on Gisela 5 rootstock to promote early bearing. Mine is in about 6 hours of sun which is enough I think for a sour cherry. It blossomed well its first year but it was too young plus we got tons of rain during its bloom so it set nothing first year. Second year it blossomed well again and this time set but noticably less % fruit set than the other sour cherries. I didn't mind though just its second season. I think in 2 more seasons I'll have enough crop from the tree to be quite happy. I did make sure like you to have other pollinators nearby I think are helping.

PS The deer ate off all almost all of the danubes this year, so I bagged the last 2 to see if I can get to taste test them... My parents describe a sour cherry they had in Ismir, Turkey back in the 80's that sounds a lot like these I want to give them some and see if they're about the same.

The good thing is I love the Danube tree itself. It has a great growth habit and very healthy.


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My 2nd year Danube set a few fruit this year. If a deer does not get to it first, I'll see how it tastes (a deer took a branch of my Black Gold last night!!). I chose Danube because it's supposed to be one of the sweetest sour cherry. I like sweet fruit.

I have sweet cherries but they have more "issues" than the sour one.


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  • Posted by skyjs z8 OR, USA (My Page) on
    Fri, Jun 7, 13 at 1:48

Now I'm starting to wonder if the Hungarian cherries want more sun than the Montmorency. Hungary is many degrees latitude to the south of Northern France, where the Montmorency is from , I believe. I may have to experiment with one in a sunnier location.
John S
PDX OR


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My Danube gets sun pretty much all day.


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  • Posted by skyjs z8 OR, USA (My Page) on
    Fri, Jun 7, 13 at 21:13

I just checked a globe. Hungary and France are on roughly equivalent latitudes, so that wouldn't be the difference. However, Hungary is much farther inland. Continental climates get much more heat units than more maritime ones. For example, Columbus Ohio will get a lot more heat units than Portland, ORegon. The ocean has an overall cooling and mellowing effect. I am going to try an experiment with some of the Hungarian varieties in my super heat packed microclimate to the South of the house to see if it makes a difference. I will let people know the results in a couple of years. I know the Danube was shooting up earlier, then much more slowly when put in a shady location. We'll see if it makes a difference.

Thanks,
John S


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