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La pêche de Vigne

Posted by MrsG47 7 RI (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 5, 13 at 19:08

The story goes a peach pit was planted at the end of a row of red wine grapes in France. The peach grew in the vineyard taking on the deep color of red wine and produced red fleshed peaches. Does anyone grow this peach? The images I found on the net show blood red peaches. They are beautiful. But do they taste good? It would be worth adding to my peach trees if it is sweet. Thanks, Mrs. G


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RE: La pêche de Vigne

Any peach with Sanguine in the name is a pêche de vigne. In the naming Sanguine in the name usually refers to ones with red flesh and pêche de vigne in the name usually means read streaks, not all red. Go to the link below and scroll down and you will find many varieties of both types. Unfortunately they are in France, not here.

Those kind of peaches came to the US a long time ago. Indian Cling and Indian Free I believe are ultimately from pêche de vigne from France. There have also been a few imported from France more recently. I have grown out Sanguine Tardeva, Sanguine Tardif de Chanas, and Sanguine Pilat. Sanguine Tardeva is a good peach and Sanguine Pilat is excellent. Both are much earlier than Indian free but taste similar. The flavor is often called "cranberry" and I think that about hits it. The only one commonly available is Indian Free, the others you would need to graft. Indian Free is just as tasty but has problems with brown rot.

Scott

PS In terms of flavor I think they are one of the classic peach flavors not to be missed. The Indian Free often wins the Dave Wilson taste tests, beating out all the recent Zaiger peach breeding work.

Here is a link that might be useful: pêche de vigne varieties (scroll down)

This post was edited by scottfsmith on Fri, Jul 5, 13 at 21:39


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RE: La pêche de Vigne

Scott, the link is really difficult to navigate. I really don't care much about Dave Wilson's reviews, as they are not as obscure as I like. I really want an outlet (seller) of maidens, or scion wood of the 'bloody' peaches. Many thanks Mrs. G


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RE: La pêche de Vigne

To use the link all you need to do is scroll down until you get to 'Pêchers de vigne '. Then it's a simple list of varieties. It starts just below the picture of a peach blossom.

The list comes from a single specialist who has travelled all around France collecting 120 varieties. His address is given but obviously it doesn't help you in the US.


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RE: La pêche de Vigne

There isn't any US outlet and the importation of peaches is nearly impossible these days due to plum pox. Peaches are hard to graft so if you want to try to graft them do some apples and pears the first year or two.

Scott


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Thanks Scott and Flora! I just think the peach is so beautiful. Does France have any type of 'quarantine' program for young trees. I will be back in France for another two weeks the end of Sept. Maybe I can taste one! They should be ripening by then. Mrs. G


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RE: La pêche de Vigne

I have grown out Sanguine Tardeva, Sanguine Tardif de Chanas, and Sanguine Pilat. Sanguine Tardeva is a good peach and Sanguine Pilat is excellent. Both are much earlier than Indian free but taste similar.

Where did you buy these peach trees? thanks! Mrs. G


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RE: La pêche de Vigne

There is no US outlet selling any of them. I either traded or got scionwood from the USDA repository. Learn how to graft and I'll send you some wood :-)

By the way there is one other red-fleshed peach called Black Boy which is a French peach exported to New Zealand many years ago and renamed there. I grew it and it was very similar to Indian Free. There used to be a nursery selling Black Boy but it went out of business.

Scott


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Scott-

What about size and hardiness? I'm pretty sure my Reliance has some red to the flesh, but maybe that is just some bleeding from the skin?


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I found 'Black Boy' in Australia and New Zealand. I found the name so dispicible I couldn't even email a question about it. It is a magnificent looking peach. I'll stick with scion wood of French varieties! Thanks Scott. If its obscure, I know you'll have it, or already tossed it out! Mrs. G :-)


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RE: La pêche de Vigne

Yes I am surprised the NZers have not renamed it. I call it BBoy in my orchard. Well, now its just a trunk anyway.

Frank there are lots of peaches with a little red in them. Ernies Choice has a fair amount. They taste like regular peaches not like the cranberry-flavored sanguine peaches.

Scott


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