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Green plums

Posted by alpharetta z7, atlanta, GA (My Page) on
Thu, Jul 31, 08 at 20:45

Hi everybody,

I went to a Korean grocerry store last weekend and saw "green plums". They taste so sweet and juicy. I have Methley plums in my yard, but these green plums really much more better. The color of these plums is light green - light yellow. Where can I get the plant to grow? What is the real name of these green plums?

Thanks
Alpharetta


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RE: Green plums

Alpharetta:

Ask them at the Korean grocery store. If they don't know, I don't know what to tell you.

Don Yellman, Great Falls, VA


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plant a couple seeds from them and grow your own. i have never had this type, but most plums in stores around here will grow fairly easily.


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Check at farmer market in atlanta if all else fails they cometo there about mothers day when I was there by bushels local grown. Check on Georgia forums someone there no which to plant.


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Can you post a picture?.. Perhaps a Korean Plum?
One I grow is called Green Gage, the lighter color yellow in this picture are ready to eat, sweet and juicy.

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Konrad


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There are two kinds of "green plum", the kind you pick early when still quite sour and cook with (common in the south because the green plums such as Robusto are very disease-resistant), and then there are also green varieties to pick at the normal time which is what you bought. Looking at Raintree, they sell Emerald Beaut which sounds a lot like the green one you bought. Also they sell a Persian green plum which is also often picked early like the southern green plums. I have seen those same green plums in the Korean grocery here and they are not Green Gage, they are much bigger and are a Japanese type.

Scott


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The picture of Konrad looks fantastic. Thanks for posting the pic.

The info from Scott is very useful. Thanks!

The Emerald Beaut Plum looks like this.

Bavay Gage plum looks like this

I want to go with Emerald Beaut because its description: "It continues to sweeten, becoming exceptionally sweet, but it remains crisp and crunchy! The Beaut has green skin, which gets yellower as it fully ripens and yellow/orange freestone flesh"
The only drawback is that it needs a pollinator. I am not sure if my Methley will be a good pollinator for the Emerald Beaut. Beside I will have to plant the new Emerald tree far away from the existing Methley...


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Hey where can I find a Konrad Plum Tree at? I've tried looking at them online but I cant find anything.... They look tasty!!!


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It's called Green Gage. I planted one this spring and I heard it could take up to 10yrs to fruit. Patience.

Konrad, how old is your GG?


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I have about 3 or 4 branches green gage grafted on this plum tree, fruited in the 3rd. year.
There is no fruit this year, all flower buds got killed off by one night of around minus 49F, 45 Celsius
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This is the tree, Mt. Royal, Patterson's Pride, Stanley and some others growing on the same tree.

Konrad
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This year I had a green plum, [picture, on one I took the skin off] nice and sweet ..but small.
Have no name, got it from a friend, he called it Japanese green.


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Konrad my friend, you know how to grow some fruit! That photo of the "fruit salad" (mixed variety) literally made me smile. It's post card perfect with all that multicolored fruit. And that green gage! Holy cow-it's the definition of "loaded". It was especially inspiring for me because I literally planted my own green gauge plum YESTERDAY! Really. So thanks for giving me something to aspire to.


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I grow GG in NY and consider it a secondary variety for the serious hobbyist. It cracks and rots easily, but when you get a good season the fruit is exceptional- as long as it's grown in full sun. It seems like most Euros I grow can prosper in relatively shady spots but not GG- it just doesn't get the sugar without full exposure.

It also takes quite a while to come into productivity on Myro. I would recommend it as a graft on another variety. It is not an exceptional plum for culinary use anyway, so you only need a couple pounds of them to experience the main pleasure of the variety.

I've never seen the variety sold at a farmers market or recommended as a commercial variety in the northeast, which probably says something, because it is one of the most famous plums in the world.

E. plums are challenging enough, I think it is best to start with relatively easy ones to grow such as Valor or Castleton. They were bred for our climate.


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Thank you all!

thecityman
Hope that you'll be successful,..just be patient.

>>GG- it just doesn't get the sugar without full exposure. <<

Very TRUE !

>>It cracks and rots easily,<<

Here they don't..probably because we have dryer conditions.

At this stage, [yellow] at their best..wholy cow!


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Those look wonderful Konrad, although more orange than I remember them. Mine didn't set much fruit for me this year at all. That's another problem with GG here.

Cracking is only a problem when it rains just as they are ripening, but here we get rain about once a week on average in Sept.

I once attended a lecture about GG at an annual NAFEX meeting. The speaker was in love with this plum because there was one in his yard when he was a child that provided him with sweet memories. He made a pilgrimage to France in the region that is known for producing perfect Reine Claude's (GG's) and even there, the harvest depends on the cooperation of the weather- mostly not getting rain as the plum finishes ripening up.

If you keep them from rotting the split plums are still delicious.


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Big box Reine Claude plums (=Green Gage?)

Green but very sweet and juicy]

This post was edited by Gardening_Maestro on Sat, Nov 22, 14 at 16:34


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  • Posted by olpea zone 6 KS (My Page) on
    Sun, Nov 23, 14 at 11:06

That's what mine look like. Believe it or not, some customers don't like the white film (bloom) on the plums. They are used to store bought, which are washed clean.

I have a question. How do folks on the forum like their Euro plums? Gage plums (and other Euros) get sweeter as they get softer. They will get so soft you can almost drink them. At that point they seem to be the sweetest. Or they can be eaten w/ a little firmer flesh (about the consistency of a hard boiled egg) but not as sweet.

My wife likes them firmer, but I like them more mushy for max sugar.


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That looks like GREEN Gage to me as well. There are many strains of GG and some dispute on what is authentic.

I like my E.plums a bit firm but very sweet. but they may well ripen differently under NY sun than Kansas sun. They don't even ripen the same way here year to year.

I don't ever want to eat a plum with the texture of a boiled egg! Those are crumbly. I guess you mean with the feel of a boiled egg- slight give to the touch, and that's about how I like them.

I find if the flesh is truly amber they usually have the big sugar I crave in a plum.


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  • Posted by olpea zone 6 KS (My Page) on
    Sun, Nov 23, 14 at 15:01

"I don't ever want to eat a plum with the texture of a boiled egg! Those are crumbly. I guess you mean with the feel of a boiled egg- slight give to the touch, and that's about how I like them."

I was having a hard time coming up w/ a comparison, and the best I could do off the cuff. Your quip about a crumbly plum made me smile. Yes, I meant the feel of a boiled egg, but w/o the shell :-)


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Olpea, I meant to make you smile.


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