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Writeup on greenhouse fruit production

Posted by fruitnut z7b-8a,4500ft SW TX (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 21, 13 at 13:51

I was asked to write this up for a local presentation sponsored by Texas A&M Extension. I'm sorry it's a really long post but maybe someone will find it worth reading.

Growing Fruit in Southwest Texas
Greenhouse Production

West Texas above 4,500ft elevation is ideally suited to greenhouse production of many fruits. Summers are cool and dry enough that greenhouse temperatures can be held in the ideal range. Winters are mild enough that heating costs are reasonable. A greenhouse of 1728 sq ft in Alpine, Texas costs about $50 per month for cooling and $300 per year for heating to 39F.

Soil is a very well drained, deep, clay loam with moderate water holding capacity.

Winter chilling requires about 10-12 weeks with nights at 38-40F and days as cool as possible, about 55-60F. Winter chilling is aided by shade cloth and evaporative cooling. The crops requiring most chilling hours are sweet cherries and some apricots. The other fruits discussed need eight weeks of chilling or less.

Summer cooling is achieved via wet wall and opposing 36 inch exhaust fans. The high temperatures in summer can be held below 95 F in a greenhouse in Alpine.

All greenhouse fruit species listed have been grown both in-ground and in 5-15 gallon pots. Fruit quality can be superb from potted trees but it is more variable and the fruit is smaller. Brix levels listed are for in-ground trees mostly on Citation and Gisela 5 rootstocks spaced from 6ft by 8ft to 4ft by 3ft. Citation is precocious and increases fruit size but is very susceptible to crown gall. Grapes and figs are too vigorous planted in-ground in the greenhouse. Potting makes them much more manageable.

The key management issue for highest fruit eating quality is water. Limiting water lowers the water content of fruit and enhances both sweetness and flavor. Greenhouse average total water application is 28 inches per year. This equates to 1.0 inch every 10-21 days from May thru September (via drip) plus 7-8 inches by flooding in the dormant season, usually October or November, to leach salts and rewet the soil profile.

The watering regime could be described as deficit irrigation. The idea is to force the plant to adapt to a water deficit in spring by withholding irrigation until growth nearly ceases and then maintaining a water deficit all summer. The trees don't usually stop growing entirely in summer but growth is very limited. The water deficit has been taken too far if the trees begin to drop leaves or the fruit shrivels. This watering regime is most suitable and effective for the long season and late maturing grapes, pluot, and nectarine. It's suitable only for the very drought tolerant fruits outdoors; mainly grapes, jujube, and figs.

The floor of the greenhouse is covered with Extenday reflective fabric to increase light in the canopy, control weeds, and save water. This in part accounts for low greenhouse water needs. Light in the greenhouse is highly diffused by IRAC poly and ground fabric but is probably only 40 to 50% total PAR compared to outdoors.

Little or no fertilizer is applied to greenhouse fruits. It's generally not needed since the fruit trees aren't competing with any ground cover vegetation.

Average brix levels have been 18-25 for pluots and nectarines, 24-32 for sweet cherry, and 16-22 for apricots. Fruit size is generally good despite limiting water as much as possible. Flavor King pluot sometimes averages 200 grams and several nectarines 3-4 inches, ~300-450 grams. Fruit size is reduced at the greatest water deficits. For instance nectarines running ~28 brix at higher water deficits are 50-70% the size of 18-22 brix fruit.

Key pest is spider mites which build up in late May. There are many new miticides available for control.

The authors single most favorite fruit is Honey Royale nectarine for it's sweet and incredibly rich flavor. Other favorites are the other Honey and Arctic series nectarines, Orangered and Robada apricot, Flavor Supreme and Flavor King pluot, Strawberry Verte fig, Sweetcrisp blueberry, and Summer Royal grape. Summer Muscat is a great tasting grape but has small berries and cracks.

Greenhouse crops and favorite cultivars

Nectarine: Honey May, Arctic Star, Honey Fire, Arctic Jay, Honey Blaze, Honey Royale, and Honey Diva
Apricot: Tomcot, Robada, Orangered, and Golden Sweet
Fig: Strawberry Verte
Pluots: Flavor Supreme, Flavor King, Crimson Royale, Honey Punch, Flavor Finale, and Flavor Treat
Sweet cherry: Lapins, Van, Bing, Selah, Sandra Rose, and Skeena
Grapes: Flame, Summer Royal, Princess, and Crimson
Citrus: Washington navel and Cara Cara navel
Blueberries: Sweetcrisp and Springhigh
Blackberry: Black Diamond
Peach: Valley Sweet

Outdoor Fruit Production

West Texas has many issues related to growing fruit outdoors. Freezes, hail, and shallow, high pH soils limit production. Soils less than 3 feet deep can severely limit tree growth. These shallow soils are often high in free lime causing iron chlorosis.

Yield, especially of early blooming fruits, is much less outdoors than in the greenhouse. But there are fruits that produce fairly well outdoors: apples, pears, jujube, blackberry, and at lower elevations peach, persimmon, pomegranate, and figs. Watermelons and cantaloupes are also well adapted especially at lower elevations.

Many apple cultivars suffer from lack of chilling but still bear fruit. Pears generally need less chilling but some low chilling cultivars bloom too early. Bosc and Comice take 5-8 years to start bearing. Asian pears and Harrow Sweet bear in 2-3 years.

The late blooming fruits are persimmon, jujube, blackberry, mulberry, and grapes. This may help escape the late freezes but once growth begins they are very freeze sensitive.

Watering needs of outdoors fruits vary considerably. Unlike in the greenhouse where deficit irrigation is successful on stone fruit, the most common situation outdoors is insufficient irrigation. This results in small trees and small fruit especially on shallow soils. Apples, pears, peach, blackberry, and watermelons require about 2.0 inches per week during hot dry periods. Grapes, figs, and jujube can be grown with much less water.

Nitrogen is the most commonly need fertilizer. The amount needed varies widely depending on soil permeability, irrigation amount, and crop. Ammonium sulfate, 21-0-0, is a good nitrogen source for west Texas. Young trees on permeable soil may need nitrogen every month to maximize growth. Older trees usually need nitrogen only 1-3 times per year.

Favorite Outdoor Cultivars

Apples: Gala, Jonalicious, Golden Delicious, Fuji, and GoldRush
Pears: Seckel, Harrow Sweet, Bartlett, Comice, Bosc, and Korean Giant aka Olympic
Grapes: Flame, Summer Royal, Princess, and Crimson
Apricot: Tomcot, Robada, and Orangered
Sweet cherry: Lapins
Peaches: check Texas Aggie Hort
Persimmon: Eureka
Jujube: Sugar Cane, Li, and Lang
Blackberry: Navajo and Triple Crown for thornless
Blueberries: Star and Legacy
Watermelon: Star Brite

Potted Fruits

Blueberries and figs are well suited to 5-15 gallon pots. Blueberries because they need low pH soil and figs for freeze protection and season extension. Figs are marginally hardy at best when planted outdoors in Alpine.

Blueberries need pH ~4.5 and well-draining media. Sphagnum peat moss is probably the best media for the bulk of the potting mix. Water only with rainwater or acidified well water. Untreated well water will kill blueberry plants in one growing season. Treat well water with vinegar or sulfuric acid to pH 4.5. Most West Texas soils are difficult or impossible to acidify to a pH suitable for blueberry.

Table 1. Greenhouse pluot evaluation

Cultivar Harvest Brix Flavor
Flavor Supreme 6-1 24 9
Geo Pride 7-1 24 8
Emerald Drop 7-8 23 7
Flavor Queen 7-15 24 5
Flavor King 7-21 20 10
Flavor Grenade 7-21 24 7
Crimson Royale 8-1 24 8
Honey Punch 8-21 25 8
Flavor Finale 9-1 24 9
Flavor Treat 9-28 24 8

Table 2. Greenhouse apricot evaluation

Cultivar Harvest Brix Flavor
Tasty Rich 4-15 18 7
Honey Rich 4-21 16 6
Tomcot 5-1 20 8
Robada 5-10 22 9
Orangered 5-21 21 10
Golden Sweet 5-28 22 7

Table 3. Greenhouse nectarine evaluation

Cultivar Harvest Brix Flavor
Honey May 5-15 18 7
Arctic Star 6-1 24 9
Arctic Sweet 6-15 23 8
Arctic Jay 7-1 24 8
Honey Fire 7-1 24 8
Honey Blaze 7-1 25 9
Spicezee 7-8 24 8
Honey Royale 7-15 23 10
Honey Diva 8-1 24 9
Valley Sweet peach 8-15 20 8
Arctic Snow 9-1 22 7

Table 4. Greenhouse grape evaluation

Cultivar Harvest Brix Flavor
Flame 7-1 25 7
Summer Muscat 7-15 30 10
Summer Royal 7-21 26 8
Princess 8-1 24 7
Autumn Royal 9-1 24 6
Crimson 10-1 26 7

Table 5. Greenhouse sweet cherry evaluation

Cultivar Brix Flavor
Bing 24 8
Van 30 10
Lapins 25 8
Rainier 28 7
Sandra Rose 32 9
Selah 32 8
Royal Rainier 30 8
Skeena 28 8
Sonata 28 8
Regina 26 5
Craig's Crimson 27 7
Sweetheart 26 7
Royal Helen 29 5
Royal Edie 27 5
Chelen 24 6

Here is a link that might be useful: greenhouse slide show

This post was edited by fruitnut on Fri, Sep 20, 13 at 15:16

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RE: Writeup on greenhouse fruit production

Nice read Fruitnut. Thanks for taking the time post it. You make me want to move to West Texas and start a green house!

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Strong work! Nice report.


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  • Posted by fruitnut z7b-8a,4500ft SW TX (My Page) on
    Wed, Aug 21, 13 at 15:32

Thanks blueboy and Tony. I do think a greenhouse in this area offers about as much potential as any fruit production system in the country. I base that on fruit eating quality and lack of production issues. Certainly areas of CA offer an even wider array of fruit possibilities. But they have many issues including new pests.

I do understand though why many like their outdoor systems even with many production issues.

This post was edited by fruitnut on Wed, Aug 21, 13 at 15:33

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  • Posted by eboone 6a - SW PA (My Page) on
    Wed, Aug 21, 13 at 17:04

Nice writeup.

A few questions:
I'm curious as to your water costs there in dry W. Texas, as well as the amount of water needed for your crop production.
Do you have labor costs other than your own time, or do you need help?
How many greenhouses do you use for your operation?
Are you marketing your produce only locally?
Is the system profitable for you, to where you are earning a living? (not asking details, but is this a 'hobby' supported by an outside job or are you surviving on what you grow)

This post was edited by eboone on Wed, Aug 21, 13 at 17:10

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  • Posted by fruitnut z7b-8a,4500ft SW TX (My Page) on
    Wed, Aug 21, 13 at 17:30


I do sell some excess fruit but profit was never a motive. My cost of production is probably twice what I sell the fruit for. I'm not a good salesman and have difficulty asking what the fruit is worth. Also I sacrifice yield for quality because that's what I want to eat. I don't sell enough to even cover the $900 or so a year in utility costs. But I do eat some and give some away.

Water is not expensive because I have my own well. There are areas with good ground water. I'm guessing that ground water is why there's a town here.

There are huge greenhouses nearby that produce tomatoes. I'd guess 30-50 acres total covered area. Those greenhouses use only natural ventillation and are about 20ft tall. They don't produce all winter.

RE: Writeup on greenhouse fruit production

Awesome, fruitnut.

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Amazing. Concise summary of a ton of work and effort. Thank you!!

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Thank you fruitnut! You are truly one of a kind. So diligent and bright. And a fellow brix lover. Mrs. G

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  • Posted by fruitnut z7b-8a,4500ft SW TX (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 22, 13 at 18:28

ahgrower, Persian, and MrsG:

Thank you! I'm on about the 12th revision. I probably should have waited until I was done. But after a while I'm probably just going in circles.

The full writeup included outdoor production as well. Contrasting greenhouse and outdoors and writing it all down has crystallized a few thoughts especially about water and where that is important.

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I'd rather call you Fruitgenius than Fruitnut. Keep posting, please. I love reading and learning from you.

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  • Posted by eboone 6a - SW PA (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 22, 13 at 21:33

Thanks for the answers- knowing that you are not doing commercial production gives me insights and hope that I can convince my wife of the need for a high tunnel! And she really likes cherries, which is probably the fruit that will benefit most from that with respect to rain protection here :)

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  • Posted by fruitnut z7b-8a,4500ft SW TX (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 22, 13 at 22:25


The money I spent on my greenhouse is the best money I've ever spent. So I'd say go for it. A high tunnel isn't much. It would help on pluot and nectarine as much as cherries. The pluot and nectarine need the extra heat, cherries don't. It would also help greatly for figs and grapes, also heat lovers.

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  • Posted by mrclint z10SoCal Valley (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 25, 13 at 13:06

Excellent write up that gives a clearer picture of your operation and approach. Previously I thought you grew everything in the greenhouse in containers, and your in-ground trees were outdoors. Thanks for sharing!

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One thing that might enhance this great read is some of the photos you've shown in the past, especially of the operation itself. Those photos blew me away.

I'm guessing your system could be done commercially if you were close enough to an urban center, such as Dallas, with a high-end restaurant clientele to market to. Also at higher scale.

You could certainly get premium plus prices from chefs introduced to the quality of your product. I think you could transform a mediocre chef into a master with your amazing product.

But hobbies can be the most satisfying way to express talent and creativity. No market constraints and all you have to think about is growing perfect fruit.

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  • Posted by fruitnut z7b-8a,4500ft SW TX (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 25, 13 at 16:39

Greenhouse is 32ft wide by 54ft long and 16ft tall. I wish now it were 12-13ft tall.

 photo greenhouse4-30-2011001.jpg

It's hard to get a good picture in summer, too crowded:

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When I had a lot of potted fruits:

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Honey Blaze nectarine at 28 average brix:

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Honey Royale nectarine. This tree is more vigorous than I like, big roots small top, but fruit was still a hit:

 photo 6-6-11HoneyBlazenectarine007.jpg

Measuring brix and size:

Honey Royale 3.5 inch 24 brix photo HoneyRoyale35inch24brix001.jpg

Forgot I ever took this picture:

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A multi grafted cherry, Bing and Rainier:

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Early season harvest:

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This post was edited by fruitnut on Mon, Sep 2, 13 at 17:54

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Wow! Now that's the full package.

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  • Posted by fruitnut z7b-8a,4500ft SW TX (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 25, 13 at 17:20

Thanks harvestman. I wish you had time to post more pictures. But I know you have a business to run.

This forum doesn't post enough pictures. The Figs 4 fun guys post everything. They all look about the same, little balls full of things that look like SWD larve. Our fruit and trees are much more varied and colorful.

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I know, it's crazy that I want to share the wonder of a season like this but for some reason when I'm working all I want to focus on is essential things I'm being paid to do.

My wife has taken a lot of pictures of my harvest this year, but my orchard is too closed in with nursery trees to get good pictures of whole trees. I'm going to get a few anyway, I promise. I'm also going to show some of the pictures of fruit as soon as things start to calm down in September.

It's really funny how the trees are all bending like never before from the weight of the fruit. I thinned enough for a normal year but all the bright days and decent rain has produced huge fruit to where I probably needed to thin almost twice as much. Won't be a problem next year, I'm afraid.

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Fruitnut, You are a role model for us the gardeners.

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  • Posted by olpea zone 6 KS (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 25, 13 at 23:07


Thanks for the pics and write-up.

It's amazing the quality of fruit you can produce in the greenhouse. It looks like every nectarine on the tree is perfect.

It's no wonder greenhouses/high tunnels are gaining such popularity. No fungus, few insect problems, no spring freeze outs, no bird pecks, no deer, no coons, no sunburn. Greenhouse/hoop house production may well be (most probably) the future for fruits in the Midwest and East.

I have a question. On peaches, the low hanging interior fruit is always inferior (not very sweet). I either don't sell it, or sell it as seconds for canning. Some varieties seem worse than others.

Do you see the same thing in your greenhouse with the reflective floor? I'm wondering if the reflective floor gives enough light to the interior fruit so that there isn't a recognizable difference in quality/sugar?

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  • Posted by fruitnut z7b-8a,4500ft SW TX (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 25, 13 at 23:44


On pluot and nectarine I haven't spotted any pattern of lower fruit being lesser quality. And I have a lot of old pendant spurs on both.

The brix does vary more within a tree than one might think. It's not unusual for brix to vary from say 18 to 28 on one tree. Maybe I'm just missing it and that lower brix is from the lower fruits.

Now the apricots are another matter. There the upper sun exposed fruit is typically 3-5 points higher brix. Upper has better color and better brix. Maybe I'm spotting this on cots because of the color difference and missing it on pluot and nectarine that color the same all over the tree.

This post was edited by fruitnut on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 9:22

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